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Yawg Hlob General Vang Pao yug qhov twg thiab xyoo twg ?
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m***@gmail.com
2017-03-05 21:02:21 UTC
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Nyob zoo ib tsoom Niam Txiv Kwv tij Hmoob sawv daws. Kuv xav nug nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv hais tias General Vang Pao yug rau lub zos hu li cas thiab yug xyoo twg tiag tiag ?
Vim hais tias kuv pom coob tus neeg sau hais tias lub xyoo yug GVP yog 1928, los 1929 los 1931....ua li qhov twg yog qhov tseeb ?

Coob tus neeg hais tias nws yug rau :

1-Phou Kong Khao, district Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos

2-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos

3-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Tasseng Keng Khouai, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang

4-Muang Kham, Xieng Khouang

5-Nong Het

Ua li lub zos nws yug yog li cas ? Nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv puas yuav paub thiab ?


Nug nej li no vim peb yog cov me nyuam yug tom qab no sab teb chaws vam meej, peb xav paub peb Keeb Kwm thiab;

ua tsaug.
yingb
2017-03-06 15:34:16 UTC
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Nyob zoo ib tsoom Niam Txiv Kwv tij Hmoob sawv daws. Kuv xav nug nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv hais tias General Vang Pao yug rau lub zos hu li cas thiab yug xyoo twg tiag tiag ?
Vim hais tias kuv pom coob tus neeg sau hais tias lub xyoo yug GVP yog 1928, los 1929 los 1931....ua li qhov twg yog qhov tseeb ?
1-Phou Kong Khao, district Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos
2-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos
3-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Tasseng Keng Khouai, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang
4-Muang Kham, Xieng Khouang
5-Nong Het
Ua li lub zos nws yug yog li cas ? Nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv puas yuav paub thiab ?
Nug nej li no vim peb yog cov me nyuam yug tom qab no sab teb chaws vam meej, peb xav paub peb Keeb Kwm thiab;
ua tsaug.
GVP yug los December 8, 1929 nyob lub zos Hav Tab Seeb.
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2017-03-06 17:48:05 UTC
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Thaum lub caij tabtom caum nyab laj tua rov gab mus Hanoi
Vaj Ncuab
2017-03-07 00:55:15 UTC
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Thaum lub caij tabtom caum nyab laj tua rov gab mus Hanoi
Kwvntxawg Mouabee Chaofa;



1929 nyob Indo-china tsis tau muaj rog li koj hais, Tojxeem Npis thiab Fabkis lawv caum cov Lao Issara thiab cov Viet Minh tawm tim Looj Hej yog tom qab Rog Ntiaj Teb Zaum 2 (1945), 1945 ces Vaj Pov twb ua haujlwm txhais lus thiab coj Fabkis kev lawm.
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2017-03-08 20:02:09 UTC
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Thaum lub caij tabtom caum nyab laj tua rov gab mus Hanoi
Kwvntxawg Mouabee Chaofa;
1929 nyob Indo-china tsis tau muaj rog li koj hais, Tojxeem Npis thiab Fabkis lawv caum cov Lao Issara thiab cov Viet Minh tawm tim Looj Hej yog tom qab Rog Ntiaj Teb Zaum 2 (1945), 1945 ces Vaj Pov twb ua haujlwm txhais lus thiab coj Fabkis kev lawm.
yingb hais tias GVP yug nyob lub zos Hav Tab Seeb. Ua li Nplog hu lub zos no li cas ? Puas muaj leeg twg paub thiab ? Ua tsaug.
Vaj Ncuab
2017-03-09 03:30:37 UTC
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Thaum lub caij tabtom caum nyab laj tua rov gab mus Hanoi
Kwvntxawg Mouabee Chaofa;
1929 nyob Indo-china tsis tau muaj rog li koj hais, Tojxeem Npis thiab Fabkis lawv caum cov Lao Issara thiab cov Viet Minh tawm tim Looj Hej yog tom qab Rog Ntiaj Teb Zaum 2 (1945), 1945 ces Vaj Pov twb ua haujlwm txhais lus thiab coj Fabkis kev lawm.
yingb hais tias GVP yug nyob lub zos Hav Tab Seeb. Ua li Nplog hu lub zos no li cas ? Puas muaj leeg twg paub thiab ? Ua tsaug.
Mike19....;



Yiglaug Nyiaj Yeeb twb teb koj lawm, Naiphom Vaj Pov yug December 8, 1929 nyob rau lub Zos Hav Tab Seeb, Tasseng Keng Khouay, Muang Kham, Xeev Xieng Khouang, Lostsuas teb. Nov yog nws lub hnub yug hauv ntaub ntawv.

Ban Houie Khi Thao (Hav Tsauv) mas tsis yog lawm, Zov Hav Tsaus yog hu raws li cov Txiv Pos Tshauv, tsis yog hu raws cov Av Tshauv or Hav Tsauv. Kuv yawm txiv (Naikong Nao Yee Lor) or Dr. Thao Pao Saykao Australia tus dablaug yog tus Nai Ban lub Zos Kiew Pa Tu, Tasseng Keng Khouay, Muang Meo or Muang Hmong thaum 1946-1953 uas Nong Het tawg thiab cov Hmoob tim Looj Hej khiav coob coob los rau pem Xeev.

Muang Nong Het mas yog tom qab 1963 Col. Vaj Pov sawv nom thiab muab lub Muang Meo (Muang Hmong) faib los ua 5 lub Muang es mam muaj lub Muang Nong Het (Chao Muang Ly Neng Thong) xwb. 1946 - 1963 mas Tasseng Keng Khouay zwm rau Muang Muang Meo (Chao Muang Touby Lyfoung, Moua Chia Xang (acting), & Ly Tong Pao).
yingb
2017-03-09 12:40:56 UTC
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Thaum lub caij tabtom caum nyab laj tua rov gab mus Hanoi
Kwvntxawg Mouabee Chaofa;
1929 nyob Indo-china tsis tau muaj rog li koj hais, Tojxeem Npis thiab Fabkis lawv caum cov Lao Issara thiab cov Viet Minh tawm tim Looj Hej yog tom qab Rog Ntiaj Teb Zaum 2 (1945), 1945 ces Vaj Pov twb ua haujlwm txhais lus thiab coj Fabkis kev lawm.
yingb hais tias GVP yug nyob lub zos Hav Tab Seeb. Ua li Nplog hu lub zos no li cas ? Puas muaj leeg twg paub thiab ? Ua tsaug.
Kuv tsis paub npe nplog hu li cas... xyov puas muaj npe nplog
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2017-03-12 02:31:41 UTC
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Nyob zoo ib tsoom Niam Txiv Kwv tij Hmoob sawv daws. Kuv xav nug nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv hais tias General Vang Pao yug rau lub zos hu li cas thiab yug xyoo twg tiag tiag ?
Vim hais tias kuv pom coob tus neeg sau hais tias lub xyoo yug GVP yog 1928, los 1929 los 1931....ua li qhov twg yog qhov tseeb ?
1-Phou Kong Khao, district Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos
2-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos
3-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Tasseng Keng Khouai, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang
4-Muang Kham, Xieng Khouang
5-Nong Het
Ua li lub zos nws yug yog li cas ? Nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv puas yuav paub thiab ?
Nug nej li no vim peb yog cov me nyuam yug tom qab no sab teb chaws vam meej, peb xav paub peb Keeb Kwm thiab;
ua tsaug.
Mike 19....;



Raws li phau ntawv "An Illustration of His Remarkable Life of Major General Vang Pao; by Noah Vang" mas Noah teev hais tias Naiphom Vaj Pov yug nyob lub zos Phou Kong Khao. Kuv xav tias tej zaum yuav meej li Noah sau lawm, but Naiphom Vaj Pov lij hlob nyob rau Zos Hav Tab Seeb.

Kuv niam tais hais tias Zos Hav Tsaus lus Nplog yog Ban Kiew Pa Tu tsis yog Ban Din Khi Thao. Vim Zos Hav Tshaus yog hu los ntawv cov txiv pos tshauv. Zos Hav Tab Seeb thiab Zos Hav Tshauv nyob ua ke tsis deb tsis ze, mus ntawm Zos Hav Tshauv mus rau Zos Hav Tab Seeb ces nce ib phag tog ces mus rau Zos Hav Tab Seeb xwb.

1929 ces yog Tasseng Keng Khouay, Muang Kham, Xeev Xieng Khouang. Muang Nong Het yog puag tom qab no (1963) lawm.
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2017-03-16 19:23:12 UTC
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Nyob zoo ib tsoom Niam Txiv Kwv tij Hmoob sawv daws. Kuv xav nug nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv hais tias General Vang Pao yug rau lub zos hu li cas thiab yug xyoo twg tiag tiag ?
Vim hais tias kuv pom coob tus neeg sau hais tias lub xyoo yug GVP yog 1928, los 1929 los 1931....ua li qhov twg yog qhov tseeb ?
1-Phou Kong Khao, district Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos
2-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang, Laos
3-Ban Houei Khi Thao, Tasseng Keng Khouai, Nonghet, Xieng Khouang
4-Muang Kham, Xieng Khouang
5-Nong Het
Ua li lub zos nws yug yog li cas ? Nej cov ua Niam ua Txiv puas yuav paub thiab ?
Nug nej li no vim peb yog cov me nyuam yug tom qab no sab teb chaws vam meej, peb xav paub peb Keeb Kwm thiab;
ua tsaug.
Mike 19....;
Raws li phau ntawv "An Illustration of His Remarkable Life of Major General Vang Pao; by Noah Vang" mas Noah teev hais tias Naiphom Vaj Pov yug nyob lub zos Phou Kong Khao. Kuv xav tias tej zaum yuav meej li Noah sau lawm, but Naiphom Vaj Pov lij hlob nyob rau Zos Hav Tab Seeb.
Kuv niam tais hais tias Zos Hav Tsaus lus Nplog yog Ban Kiew Pa Tu tsis yog Ban Din Khi Thao. Vim Zos Hav Tshaus yog hu los ntawv cov txiv pos tshauv. Zos Hav Tab Seeb thiab Zos Hav Tshauv nyob ua ke tsis deb tsis ze, mus ntawm Zos Hav Tshauv mus rau Zos Hav Tab Seeb ces nce ib phag tog ces mus rau Zos Hav Tab Seeb xwb.
1929 ces yog Tasseng Keng Khouay, Muang Kham, Xeev Xieng Khouang. Muang Nong Het yog puag tom qab no (1963) lawm.
Ua tsaug rau koj Txiv Hlob los yog Txiv Ntxawm Vaj Ncuab.
Kuv ua tub thov nug koj. Koj puas muaj email thiab los tsis muaj os ?
Ua tsaug
m***@gmail.com
2017-03-16 19:29:28 UTC
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Yog li General Vang Pao yug
Hnub tim 8 lub 12 hli ntuj xyoo 1929 nyob lub zos Phou Kong Khao
mam lij loj hlob nyob zos Hav Tab Seeb
Tasseng Keng Khouay,
Muang Kham,
Xeev Xieng Khouang
teb chaws Nplog

Puas yog li no os ?
Vaj Ncuab
2017-03-16 22:20:29 UTC
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Yog li General Vang Pao yug
Hnub tim 8 lub 12 hli ntuj xyoo 1929 nyob lub zos Phou Kong Khao
mam lij loj hlob nyob zos Hav Tab Seeb
Tasseng Keng Khouay,
Muang Kham,
Xeev Xieng Khouang
teb chaws Nplog
Puas yog li no os ?
Mike19...;



Rov tham txog ntawm Naiphom Vaj Pov lub hnub yug mas ntaub ntawv yeej yog December 8, 1929. But, ntawm lub zos mas tsis muaj leej twg paub meej. 1983 kuv tau nug Naiphom Vaj Pov mas nws hais tias nws yug nyob Hav Tab Seeb, tabsi Naiphom Vaj Pov tus muam Chai Vang (Niam Xov Txais Yaj) hais tias, Naiphom Vaj Pov yug nyob Zos Hav Txhauv. Noah Vang teev nyob rau hauv nws phau ntawv mas Noah teev 2 lub zos:

1. Brief introduction (page 20) Noah sau hais tias, Naiphom Vaj Pov tug nyob Ban Phou Kong Khao, Nong Het District, Xieng Khouang Province.

2. Gen. Vang Pao Brief Chronology (page 30) Noah ho sau hais tias Naiphom Vaj Pov yug nyob rau Ban Houei Khi Thao, Nong Het, Xieng Khouaang Province.


Noah sau nws phau ntawv mas nws sau October 2011 tom qab Naiphom Vaj Pov twb tuag lawm, tej zaum Noah nug Naiphom Vaj Pov cov tub, cov muam or tsev neeg xwb. Thaum luag hais li cas ces nws sau li ntawv xwb.

Zoo tiag ces rov nug Naiphom Vaj Pov cov muam uas tseem ua neej nyob xws li Niam Col. Neej Tswb Thoj, Niam Npliaj Yob Thoj, Niam Xov Txhais Yaj thiab Niam Col. Lis Teeb. Yog feem coob hais li cas ces yuav li ntawd. Or koj rov mus mloog zaj Qhuab Ke uas thaum yawgloj tag sim neej saib tus txiv Qhuab Kev hais li cas txog ntawm lub zos uas yawgloj yug.
m***@gmail.com
2017-03-17 13:51:33 UTC
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Txiv Ntxawm Vaj Ncuab,
Ua tsaug koj pab qhia cov informations no rau kuv ua tub.

Koj puas muaj email contact ?

Ua tsaug.
Vaj Ncuab
2017-03-17 19:03:59 UTC
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Txiv Ntxawm Vaj Ncuab,
Ua tsaug koj pab qhia cov informations no rau kuv ua tub.
Koj puas muaj email contact ?
Ua tsaug.
Mike 19...;



Kuv tus email yog ***@yahoo.com thiab kuv xov tooj yog (763) 447-0634.



Ua tsaug
sengsu lynhiavu
2017-03-19 12:20:09 UTC
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Tij VajNcuab
Nyob zoo nyaj kj tuaj tim no thiab pob? Yog kj tuaj no ces zoo siab yov tau sib ntsib dua. Tos yeeb ncuab rov yog Hmoob los, vim tus ua dej dab tsis haus, pheej ua rau luag tej haus swb ne.

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Vaj Ncuab
2017-03-20 02:31:40 UTC
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Tij VajNcuab
Nyob zoo nyaj kj tuaj tim no thiab pob? Yog kj tuaj no ces zoo siab yov tau sib ntsib dua. Tos yeeb ncuab rov yog Hmoob los, vim tus ua dej dab tsis haus, pheej ua rau luag tej haus swb ne.
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Kwv Xeem Xwm;



Raws li tham mas kuv yuavtsum tau tuaj txawj Vam Yeeb lawv cov ua tub thiab Txawj Teeb lawv cov ua kwv rau thaum Summer 2017 yuav los no. Yog tuaj kuv yuav tsum nrhiav kom tau sijhawm los saib koj thiab koj txiv nej. Ntawm koj 2 phau ntawv ces kuv tseg ib phau rau yawm uncle Idonotknow tabsi yuawg ncaim lawm tsis tuaj nqa es thiaj tsis tau xa nyiaj rau koj. Kuv tus kwv yuav yuav ib phau yog yawg tuaj nqa ces kuv mam xa nyiaj rau koj.



Ua tsaug
t***@psak12.org
2017-03-20 15:00:36 UTC
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Tij VajNcuab
Nyob zoo nyaj kj tuaj tim no thiab pob? Yog kj tuaj no ces zoo siab yov tau sib ntsib dua. Tos yeeb ncuab rov yog Hmoob los, vim tus ua dej dab tsis haus, pheej ua rau luag tej haus swb ne.
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Kwv Xeem Xwm;
Raws li tham mas kuv yuavtsum tau tuaj txawj Vam Yeeb lawv cov ua tub thiab Txawj Teeb lawv cov ua kwv rau thaum Summer 2017 yuav los no. Yog tuaj kuv yuav tsum nrhiav kom tau sijhawm los saib koj thiab koj txiv nej. Ntawm koj 2 phau ntawv ces kuv tseg ib phau rau yawm uncle Idonotknow tabsi yuawg ncaim lawm tsis tuaj nqa es thiaj tsis tau xa nyiaj rau koj. Kuv tus kwv yuav yuav ib phau yog yawg tuaj nqa ces kuv mam xa nyiaj rau koj.
Ua tsaug
Vaj Ncuab & Xeev Xwm,

Neb phau ntawv muaj lub npe hu li cas thiab sau txog ab tsi ne yuam? Thov qhia pub kuv paub, thiab.

Nyob zoo neb,

-Txiabneeb,
Nroog Ntxaib, Xeev Minnesota
Email: ***@gmail.com
Vaj Ncuab
2017-03-20 22:52:51 UTC
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Tij VajNcuab
Nyob zoo nyaj kj tuaj tim no thiab pob? Yog kj tuaj no ces zoo siab yov tau sib ntsib dua. Tos yeeb ncuab rov yog Hmoob los, vim tus ua dej dab tsis haus, pheej ua rau luag tej haus swb ne.
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Kwv Xeem Xwm;
Raws li tham mas kuv yuavtsum tau tuaj txawj Vam Yeeb lawv cov ua tub thiab Txawj Teeb lawv cov ua kwv rau thaum Summer 2017 yuav los no. Yog tuaj kuv yuav tsum nrhiav kom tau sijhawm los saib koj thiab koj txiv nej. Ntawm koj 2 phau ntawv ces kuv tseg ib phau rau yawm uncle Idonotknow tabsi yuawg ncaim lawm tsis tuaj nqa es thiaj tsis tau xa nyiaj rau koj. Kuv tus kwv yuav yuav ib phau yog yawg tuaj nqa ces kuv mam xa nyiaj rau koj.
Ua tsaug
Vaj Ncuab & Xeev Xwm,
Neb phau ntawv muaj lub npe hu li cas thiab sau txog ab tsi ne yuam? Thov qhia pub kuv paub, thiab.
Nyob zoo neb,
-Txiabneeb,
Nroog Ntxaib, Xeev Minnesota
Kwvntxawg Txiab Neeb;


Kwv Xeev Xwm wb tham txog Maj. Ly Blong Lynhia Vu phau ntawv The Live & The Tongue. The Live & The Tongue yog ib phau ntawv uas tsim nyog cov tub txawj ntxhais ntse li nej cov kwv yuav tsum tau twm, vim muaj ntaus yam uas Maj. Lis Nplooj sau txog Hmoob lub neej qub qab yav dhau los lawm.
sengsu lynhiavu
2017-03-20 23:50:43 UTC
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Tij VajNcuab
Yog tuaj tau tiag ces yov rov tau sib tsib xwb tiag, Kj tuaj txog no hu Kv na, Kv tus xovtooj tseem yog tus qhub, ntawm phau ntawm Kj txhob nyuab siab txog.

Tub Bawg txiabNeeb
TijVajNcuaj teb rau Kj lawm ces ok.

TusBawg Tsav ( France)
Kj tsis muab Kj information kom txaus rau Kv, Kv thiaj tsis cia Kj interview Kv Txiv. Kj tsuas hais tias Kj yog ib tus tub Hmoob Tsab los Luambrabang los xwb,Kj muab Kj information kom txaus thiab Kj muab REFERENCE'S tuaj ( Email), Kv mam set appointment Kj interview Kv Txiv ma.

PeevXwm

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