Discussion:
Rebecca Sommer VS. Laura Xiong & HIHRW
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i***@hotmail.com
2006-03-26 18:52:45 UTC
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Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.

Ua tsaug!


From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Email: ***@earthlink.net


Dear Mr Bon Xiong.

I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.

I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.

Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".

I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.

I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.

I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.

Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".

While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.

I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.

After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.

I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.

After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.

It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.

It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.

It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.

She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.

Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
she brought upon me:
She requests that I:
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)

Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)

Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.


In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.

This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?

Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.

I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.

I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.

I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.

I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.


Rebecca Sommer.
c***@hotmail.com
2006-03-26 19:28:52 UTC
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Is this really Rebecca Sommer? The writing does not really reflect her
skills, what do you think?
csy
f***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 02:47:46 UTC
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I heard her speak on the Fresno radio during the Christmas season. She
was not an elegant speaker nor did she sound professional, so it could
possibly be her writing. This is what happens when you trust white
people. Laura should have trusted in her own people and used her own
people's expertise.
k***@comcast.net
2006-03-27 03:28:51 UTC
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Hmoob tsis vam meej ces vim tej niam kev nyiam ua yeeb cuav li no ntag.
This is a fabrication to make Laura Xiong looks bad and ugly.

Kajntug
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
c***@hotmail.com
2006-03-27 06:30:06 UTC
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kajntug,
I should side with you for now.
csy
Ncaimtseemnco
2006-03-27 13:02:18 UTC
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Luag hais tias, Hmoob ces ib tug ua ib tug tshum no ces yog tej no ntag
los mas.

I doubt this is Rebecca Sommer. If it is, there is got to be someone
behind the curtain that it has yet to be revealed. Will find out soon.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:18:54 UTC
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Post by Ncaimtseemnco
Luag hais tias, Hmoob ces ib tug ua ib tug tshum no ces yog tej no ntag
los mas.
I doubt this is Rebecca Sommer. If it is, there is got to be someone
behind the curtain that it has yet to be revealed. Will find out soon.
It is indeed Rebecca Sommer. English is not her native language, and
so she does not speak or write it perfectly.

But she is very honest.
phabej
2006-03-27 16:03:36 UTC
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2 tug phooj ywg,

Kuv tsis pom zoo li neb hais, kuv xav txawv neb deb heev heev. Kuv ho
pom tias ua li no mas Hmoob thiaj li yuav vam meej taus lawm yav tom
ntej. Kuv txhais hais tias yog Hmoob leej twg ua zoo ces suav daws sib
cog yuav thiab khaws mus siv hos yog leej twg ua tsis zoo (ua
fabrication work li LX thiab coob tus kujxaj) ces lawv yuav tsum tau
responsible rau lawv teg hauj lwm (their action) thiab cov nyob sab
nraum yuav tsum muaj cai los txhwj, tshum, thiab los hais lawv kom lawv
txhob ua ntxiv lawm.
Born2beHmong
2006-03-27 16:58:00 UTC
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Phabej,

ziag no, wb hos yuav hais li Xej lawv ib txwm hais aws- ua neeg nyob
yuav tsum tau coj zoo, ncaj, thiab duabnrab tiag tiag, thaum yus los ua
tau ib lub npe zoo zoo lino los rau yus coj lawm.

to be fair on this matter, we must stop jumping into the conclusion and
judge, but we need to find out the truth, and make our cases from there
on. but who was filming of all these and if RS is the person who wrote
the above email.

we should blame or point finger to any person, because we need to know
from the bottom of this issue.

again, thanks for the update!

Born2behmong
h***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 17:20:12 UTC
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KWV NTXAWG , wb yuav tau xyaum BRUCE LEE thaj thiaj yuav find out THE
TRUTH nawb. RAW LI KUV HNOV SAIS TUS REBECCA SOMMER no mus tim THAIB
TEB YOG LAURA XIONG them nyiaj txhua yam kom nws yuav tsum mus thaij
kom tau cov hmoob tawg rog tid rau lawv lub koom haum. TABASI TXOG
THAUM KAWG TUS REBECCA SOMMER txawm cia li yuav muab cov film ntawd coj
los ua muag yuav nyiaj ces LAURA XIONG TXWV TSIS PUB NWS MUAG, nkawb
thiaj sib phiv ces REBECCA SOMMER muab LAURA XIONG ntaus thiab ZAWM CAJ
DAB kom tuag no laiv.

CES LAURA XIONG thiaj hu POLICE NTES REBECCA SOMMER mus kaw. REBECCA
SOMMER yog ib tug GERMAN tuaj ua hauj lwm tebchaws no xwb. THAUM NWS
RAUG TXIM LAWM nws tseem tuaj mus TUAV VAJ PAO TES pem APPLETON thiab
tuaj mus DAG HAIS TIAS LAURA NYIAG NWS COV FILM THIAB LUB HARD DRIVE
LAWM MAS NWS HU POLICE TXHOM LAURA MUS KAW LAWM. NWS TUAJ DAG LI NTAWD
CES LUB LAO HUMAN RIGHT TUS VAUGH VANG THIAB NEOHOM LAWV ZOO SIAB KAWG
NO. LAWV TSEEM YUAV THOV NYIAJ TUAJ MUS LAWM YAV QAUM TEB THIAB KOOM
SIAB FOOB LAURA XIONG NO.

NEJ SIM SOJ QAB TAUG LW MUS SAIB LAWV YUAV SAU TAU NYIAJ NPAUM LI
CAS MUS FOOB LAURA XIONG LAWV. KUV KUJ XAV POM SAIB LAWV YUAV FOOB LI
CAS THIAB TIAG. KUV XAV MAS YOG LAWV MUS NROG TUS REBECCA SOMMER NO
FOOB LAURA XIONG MAS YUAV MUAJ CEEM HEEV NAWB.

TUBNTSUAGRUAM HNOV HAIS TIAS LAWV OB PEB LUB KOOM HAUM KOOM SIAB
NROG REBECCA SOMMER FOOB LAURA XIONG THIAB NWS LUB KOOM HAUM LAWM NO
NEJ PUAS MUAJ NEEG PAUB. RAWS LI TUBNTSUAGRUAM XAV XWB MAS NTSHE YUAV
YOG LAO HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL, FACT FINDING COMMISSION, NEO HOM THIAB
HMOOB 18 XEEM (UNITED HMONG INTERNATIONAL COUNCIL) LAWV PAB ME DEV RAWS
NQAIJ NO TAG LAU.

KUV XAV MAS YOG MUAJ TIAG NO TEJ ZAUM PEB YUAV POM HLUAV TAWS CIG
ZAUM NO NAWB COV PHOOJYWG. YUAV TAU PAB TSIJ TAWS RAU KOM CIG LOJ NTXIV
THIAJ KUB TOJ KUB PES RAU SAWV DAWS SAIB NTAG. kuv ntshai tsam thaum
lawv paub qhov tseeb ntawm REBECCA SOMMER txoj kev txhaum ces lawv cia
li tso tseg es peb tsis pom HLUAV TAWS CIG XWB.

TUBNTSUAGRUAM
Post by Born2beHmong
Phabej,
ziag no, wb hos yuav hais li Xej lawv ib txwm hais aws- ua neeg nyob
yuav tsum tau coj zoo, ncaj, thiab duabnrab tiag tiag, thaum yus los ua
tau ib lub npe zoo zoo lino los rau yus coj lawm.
to be fair on this matter, we must stop jumping into the conclusion and
judge, but we need to find out the truth, and make our cases from there
the above email.
we should blame or point finger to any person, because we need to know
from the bottom of this issue.
again, thanks for the update!
Born2behmong
phabej
2006-03-27 18:15:14 UTC
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Phooj ywg Tubntsuag,

Nev nev, seb yog li kuv hais tiag los pov. Nej cov txhawb txhawb LX ces
yog cov thawb kom LX poob qhov thee tiag nev. Thaum LX twb poob qhov
thee li no lawm los nej tseem yuav tsij taws rau kom LX kub ua hluav
thiab. Ua tsaug qhov koj tuaj lees (confirmed) rau peb paub.

Yog koj tsis tuaj tham mas peb twb tsis paub tias RS ntaus thiab zawm
LX caj dab li nawj. Thiab peb twb tsis paub hais tias RS mus koom tes
nrog VP lawv li lau. Cas kuv lam kwv yees hais tias tej zaum RS raug
pab los ntawm cov culprits uas xav ua phem rau LX no xwb cia li ntaub
nkaus li. Tos kuv hais tias koj nyob ze LX koj yuav paub zoo dua no,
seb yog tiag nev.

Ua tsaug ntau koj tuaj tawg paus rau peb hnov paim cua rau peb hnia.
Yam li muaj ntsis tsw heev los tsis sub.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 19:56:06 UTC
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Tsis yog Laura poob qhov thee. Koj puas tau hnov zaj dabneeg uas nujyob
mus nrog ntxwj nyuam sib ntaus? Thaum nkawv yuav mus, nuj yob hais rau
nws poj niam hais tias, koj nyob hnub no kuv yuav mus nrog ntxwjnyuam
sib tua tim lub qhov ntuj. Yog koj ntsia es pom tawm npuas liab npuas
dub no ces kuv tuag lawm nawb mog. Hos yog tawm npuas dawb no ces yog
kuv ntaus yeej lawm.

Ua cas nuj yob tus poj niam nyob tim tsev no mloog, ua cas txawm hnov
Nujyob lub suab quaj quaj ncia ncia hauv qhov ntuj tuaj. Nws ntsia ua
cas pom npuas liab npuas dawb sib xyaws tawm los. Cov yeeb ncuab mas
zoo siab hais tias zaum no Nujyob tuag lawm. Tabsi nujyob poj niam paub
hais tias cov npuas dawb tseem tawm tuaj, ces Nujyob yeej tsis tau
tuag.

Cia saib txog thaum kawg, nej yuav pom npuas liab los npuas dawb tawm
nawb mog.

KM
Post by phabej
Phooj ywg Tubntsuag,
Nev nev, seb yog li kuv hais tiag los pov. Nej cov txhawb txhawb LX ces
yog cov thawb kom LX poob qhov thee tiag nev. Thaum LX twb poob qhov
thee li no lawm los nej tseem yuav tsij taws rau kom LX kub ua hluav
thiab. Ua tsaug qhov koj tuaj lees (confirmed) rau peb paub.
Yog koj tsis tuaj tham mas peb twb tsis paub tias RS ntaus thiab zawm
LX caj dab li nawj. Thiab peb twb tsis paub hais tias RS mus koom tes
nrog VP lawv li lau. Cas kuv lam kwv yees hais tias tej zaum RS raug
pab los ntawm cov culprits uas xav ua phem rau LX no xwb cia li ntaub
nkaus li. Tos kuv hais tias koj nyob ze LX koj yuav paub zoo dua no,
seb yog tiag nev.
Ua tsaug ntau koj tuaj tawg paus rau peb hnov paim cua rau peb hnia.
Yam li muaj ntsis tsw heev los tsis sub.
Xejthim
2006-03-27 20:35:10 UTC
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KM,

Kuv vam ntsoov hais tias cov npuas dawb yuav tsum tawm xwb, nuj yob
yuav tsis tuag yog tias nws siv nws tej txuj kom raws li nws muaj thiab
tsis txhob lam auj ej nws tej yeeb ncuab li yav tag los, tsis li ntawd
ces ntshai peb yuav pom cov npuas liab xwb. Nuj Yob yeej muaj txuj
thiab yeej tuav raws nws tus ko ntaj tiam sis zoo li nws tsis muaj tus
zoo laus neeg nrog nws nuam yaj mus lov nws cov yeeb ncuab tus pwg pw
yeeb ncuab thiaj li niaj hnub muab nws npuaj plu. Li cas los zaum no
Nuj Yob yuav tsis dim ntawm nws cov yeeb ncuab tes kiag li lawm. Tej
laus piv txoj lus tias "noj tsis tau ces yuav tuag, hais tsis tau ces
yuav swb" ces yog zaum no Nuj Yob tsis siv nws li txuj kom ti txha
nkaus ces ntshai peb cov nyob ib cag yuav tsis pom qab pab Nuj Yob li
cas kiag. Thov kom Nuj Yob ua kom peb pom cov npuas dawb tawm tuaj xwb
xwb nawb.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 21:04:05 UTC
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Xejthim, txawm tias Nujyob tsis muaj tus laus neeg nrog nuam yaj los
muaj ib hnub me nplooj hmab nplooj ntoo yuav txawj hais lus, me xyoob
me ntoo yuav txawj rhais ruam. Hnub twb Nujnyob ib leeg tiv tsis taus
Ntxwjnyuam txoj kev limhiam, es NujYob ho tuag lawm los mam nrhiav dua
tus txhiab los sawv NujYob tus hneev taw. Yog hnub twg NujYob ib pa
nqus tsis tuaj, thov nej mus cawm NujYob pab niam tub tim DD nawb mog.

KM
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KM,
Kuv vam ntsoov hais tias cov npuas dawb yuav tsum tawm xwb, nuj yob
yuav tsis tuag yog tias nws siv nws tej txuj kom raws li nws muaj thiab
tsis txhob lam auj ej nws tej yeeb ncuab li yav tag los, tsis li ntawd
ces ntshai peb yuav pom cov npuas liab xwb. Nuj Yob yeej muaj txuj
thiab yeej tuav raws nws tus ko ntaj tiam sis zoo li nws tsis muaj tus
zoo laus neeg nrog nws nuam yaj mus lov nws cov yeeb ncuab tus pwg pw
yeeb ncuab thiaj li niaj hnub muab nws npuaj plu. Li cas los zaum no
Nuj Yob yuav tsis dim ntawm nws cov yeeb ncuab tes kiag li lawm. Tej
laus piv txoj lus tias "noj tsis tau ces yuav tuag, hais tsis tau ces
yuav swb" ces yog zaum no Nuj Yob tsis siv nws li txuj kom ti txha
nkaus ces ntshai peb cov nyob ib cag yuav tsis pom qab pab Nuj Yob li
cas kiag. Thov kom Nuj Yob ua kom peb pom cov npuas dawb tawm tuaj xwb
xwb nawb.
Xejthim
2006-03-27 22:01:00 UTC
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KM,

Kuv mas xav pom kom Nujyob yeej meem qhia tej me nplooj hmab nplooj
ntoo kom txawj hais lus thiab tej xyoob ntoo kom txawj tshais ruam xwb
ntag tiag. Yog Nujyob lam ua tau li ntawd tiag mas tsis xav pom cov
npuas dawb los yeej yuav pom hos tus ho xav xav pom npuas liab los twb
yuav tsis pom. Thaum ntawd peb txhua tus mam li npuaj teg nrov nrov
txhawb Nujyob lub dag zog thiab txaus tuaj kwv Nujyob los peb mam li
tuaj ntag. Nujyob yim meem tuav rawv ko ntaj es ntxus niag poj dab
ntawd cuag tej txiv neeb txiv yaig ntxus dab poj ntxoog kom txhob dim
kiag li. Thaum twg Nujyob qaub zog no ces peb mam li fiv dab pob tawb
tuaj txhawb Nujyob zog nawb.
phabej
2006-03-27 17:59:49 UTC
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,

Koj hais yog lawm, nws tseem ntxov heev rau peb los conclude RS vs. LX
nkawv qhov teeb meem tiag. Qhov uas tau hais mus lawm no ces yog muab
tej qub lus los tham xwb. Cia kuv rov repeat me me rau koj kom koj pom
lub teeb ci, thaum nkawv mus thaij (film) Hmoob DD mas nkawv hais rau
Hmoob hais tias yog thaij los rau UN thiab US kom lawv tau tuaj USA
xwb. Tab sis raws li RS cov lus ces thaum nkawv rov los txog tim no
lawm nkawv muab cov scripts ntawv siv rau ob peb yam hauj lwm (ib tug
yuav coj report rau UN & DOS hos ib tug ho yuav muab muag yuav nyiaj)
thiaj ua rau nkawv tsis sib haum.

Kuv caw nej txhua tus hu mus nrog LX thiab RS nkawv sib tham kiag nej
thiaj paub qhov tseeb. Tsis tag li ntawv, kuv thov caw nej hu mus nug
kiag cov Hmoob tim DD seb thaum LX thiab RS nkawv mus ua ntawv yog ua
li cas rau li cas tiag.

Ntawm phooj ywg Xejthim ces tso siab tau vim nws yeej ib txwm tsis txav
taw.
Born2beHmong
2006-03-27 20:28:42 UTC
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Phabej thiab tijlaug tubntsuag,

ua tsaug rau neb tuaj lees lus hais tias tej haujlwm no, yog yuav hais
tias muaj los yeej muaj thiab, hais tias tsi muaj los yeej me me li no
lawm tiag thiab. tubntsuagruam, yog li koj tau hais no lawm tiag no,
ces kuv ua koj ua tij tsaug os mog.

men of wisdom and knowledge, they wont let their friendship tear apart
to able strive to what they want to achieve. it looks worst to the eyes
of the public if thing as this is happening around the corner. txawm
tsi muaj ntau, los yeej muaj me me lawm--yog li, peb haivneeg hmoob no
rov poob ib them thob heev li--as Bruce Lee had put his martial art as
be very flexible and being on top of all agenda to knot your opponent
out of the ring, be as flexible as water. i dont think we are there as
yet.....

sad......to hear such a bad news as this....:(:(:( i told you so,
Phabej!

Born2beHmong
phabej
2006-03-27 21:24:31 UTC
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,

Cia ua li koj hais, txhob rawm maj hais tias nkawv leej twg yog tus
txhaum los yog tus phem vim peb tsis tau paub qhov tseeb. Ua li cas los
peb yeej yuav pom qhov kawg xwb.

Kuj txawv kawg li tiag txhua txhia zaum mas peb suav daws tham txog LX
mas nws yeej tawm plaws tuaj thuav nws zaj rau peb mloog tab sis ua cas
zaum no LX ho nyob ntsiag to tsis nti li.

Li koj hais, pab LX thiab pog RS nkawv tu siab hais tias nkawv twb yog
phooj ywg zoo es cas txog kawg ho sib zawm caj dab yam niag tsis txaus
ntseeg kiag li.

Phooj ywg KM,

Qhov koj hais Nuj Yob mus nrog Ntxwj Nyuam (what is Ntxwj Nyuam) sib
ntaus sib tua mas tseem haib tshaj qhov LX poob qhov thee lawm (cia siv
koj qhov piv txwv zoo dua). Ua li phooj ywg Xejthim hais lawm, xav kom
Nuj Yob (LX) tawm npuas dawb nkaus xwb. Yog li thov ntuj pab Nuj Yob
kom Nuj Yob txhob tawm npuas (ntshav ntswg) liab thiab dub.

Peb npaj siab tos saib kom txog qhov kawg lawm ntag. Yog muaj dab tsi
yeej meem tso tuaj rau peb pom ntag. Txhob ua li zaum tas no es LX yuav
cab H18X mus nkag nkuaj no tab sis cia li ploj lawm ntsiag to tau 5 6
lub hlis no tsis hnov hais tau H18X quav ci noj.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 22:00:17 UTC
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Raws li kuv sojntsuam xyuas mas thaum ntawd yog Hmoo 18 Xeem yuav cab
LX mus tom court, tabsi thaum pog Rebecca los txog, nws hu mus muab
Hmoob 18 Xeem xyuas thiab qhia qhov tseeb hais tias txhua yam Laura
hais ntawd muaj tseeb yog Hmoob 18 Xeem tsis tseg txoj kev limhiam, nws
yuav ua kom Hmoob 18 Xeem lub nkoj tog zaum no. Vim yog li no, Hmoob 18
Xeem thiaj ntshai, ces thiaj nkaum tau 5-6 hli no lawm. Tabsi tamsim no
ces pog Rebecca nqus nqus tsis tau Laura's blood, ces nws thiaj muab
Laura ntaus. Zaum no nws tig kiag rau Hmoob 18 Xeem rau qhov nws pom
lawv rog rog phlu liab plaim. Kuv ntseeg tias nws yuav tsau ib ntus
lau.

Nej puas tau mag Fiab los yog leech ntxais ntshav na? Nws ntxais
ntxais, thaum tsau lawm ces nws poob nws koj yeej tsis pom li. Tos hnov
xwb twb mob mob lawm.

KM.
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Cia ua li koj hais, txhob rawm maj hais tias nkawv leej twg yog tus
txhaum los yog tus phem vim peb tsis tau paub qhov tseeb. Ua li cas los
peb yeej yuav pom qhov kawg xwb.
Kuj txawv kawg li tiag txhua txhia zaum mas peb suav daws tham txog LX
mas nws yeej tawm plaws tuaj thuav nws zaj rau peb mloog tab sis ua cas
zaum no LX ho nyob ntsiag to tsis nti li.
Li koj hais, pab LX thiab pog RS nkawv tu siab hais tias nkawv twb yog
phooj ywg zoo es cas txog kawg ho sib zawm caj dab yam niag tsis txaus
ntseeg kiag li.
Phooj ywg KM,
Qhov koj hais Nuj Yob mus nrog Ntxwj Nyuam (what is Ntxwj Nyuam) sib
ntaus sib tua mas tseem haib tshaj qhov LX poob qhov thee lawm (cia siv
koj qhov piv txwv zoo dua). Ua li phooj ywg Xejthim hais lawm, xav kom
Nuj Yob (LX) tawm npuas dawb nkaus xwb. Yog li thov ntuj pab Nuj Yob
kom Nuj Yob txhob tawm npuas (ntshav ntswg) liab thiab dub.
Peb npaj siab tos saib kom txog qhov kawg lawm ntag. Yog muaj dab tsi
yeej meem tso tuaj rau peb pom ntag. Txhob ua li zaum tas no es LX yuav
cab H18X mus nkag nkuaj no tab sis cia li ploj lawm ntsiag to tau 5 6
lub hlis no tsis hnov hais tau H18X quav ci noj.
Xejthim
2006-03-27 22:30:32 UTC
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KM,

Hais li koj hais saum toj no ces Hmoob lam rov ua phem rau Hmoob xwb
puas yog? Thaum twg yog ib tug neeg txawv (cov tawv dawb thiab Thaib)
nthe ib suab xwb ces Hmoob yeej pliab lua hauv pem teb ib ce tuag tag
no lov? Kuv los kuj pom li qhov koj hais lawm thiab tiag es kuv thiaj
pheej niaj hnub hais tias cov HDD mas yog cia rau Thaib hais mas yooj
yim tshaj tev qe, tiam sis pheej muaj ib cov Hmoob tsis kam cia rau
lawv ua cov lav mus keeb npa ham no es ziag no npam ham thiaj loj hlob
tuaj qhw tau Hmoob lawm ntag. Li cas los xij zaum no thov kom peb tus
Nujyob Hmoob tsis txhob lam pw ua tes taw qaug zaws rau niam pog
Rebecca li H18X pau ko tws rau nws xwb. Nujyob twb yog peb tug ej ej
lawm es yog tseem raug niam pog Rebecca nthe li nws nthe H18X thiab ces
peb tag hauv ris lawm. Kom Nujyob kav tsij yeej meem sawv khov kho
nyeem lub nrim to ntej lub nrig tom qab tos no nawb.
phabej
2006-03-28 17:08:26 UTC
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KM,

Koj tuaj hais txheem LX tau zoo kawg li. Xyov ua cas LX nej ho tsis tiv
thaiv tom ntej hos pheej nyiam tiv thaiv tom qab.

Peb ua neeg nyob thaum yus twb paub tseeb tseeb hais tias leej twg yog
cov caum yus tua pov tseg. Yus twb muab hais tawm rau lub nriaj teb no
nrog hnov nrog paub tag li LX hais ntawv lawm. Tab sis txog kawg yus ho
cab tsis tau cov neeg phem ntawv mus kham nkuaj raws txoj cai tswj hwm
kev ncaj ncees kav lub nriaj teb no ces xyov yog yus ua neej nyob lub
ntuj twg lawm?

Txoj cai loj tshaj plaws pov hwm tib neeg txoj sia thoob qab ntuj khwb
no ces yog txoj cai tiv thaiv kev tua neeg xwb. Raws li LX hais, H18X
twb caum tua LX tab sis yog tua tsis tau xwb, ua cas thaum rov los txog
tim no LX ho cia pog RS hu mus hem H18X xwb, cas ho tsis cia nom tswv
hu mus ma? Txhais tau hais tias RS yeej muaj connection zoo nrog H18X
ua ntej nkawv mus tim Thaib lawm, es ziag no RS thiaj mus koom tes nrog
lawv lawm, puas yog? Yog tsis li ntawv ntshe H18X yuav tsis lam mloog
pog RS hais thiab pog RS los yuav tsis lam hais H18X kiag li nav.

Twb yog txim tua neeg kiag tab sis LX thiab RS nkawv ho tsis mauj peev
xwm hais tau, ho tso H18X dim dawb dim do, something is really wrong
with LX and RS. Tej zaum ntshe yog LX thiab RS nkawv tsis txawj noj mov
no mas thiaj li hais tsis tau. Los yog nkawv dag li H18X hais es thiaj
tsis muaj cuab kav foob tau H18X li suav daws pom los tau 5 6 hlis no.
Txog kawg nkawv thiaj rov sib tog nkawv vim pog RS yeej tuaj H18X tog
los lawm ntev, leej twg yuav paub?
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Raws li kuv sojntsuam xyuas mas thaum ntawd yog Hmoo 18 Xeem yuav cab
LX mus tom court, tabsi thaum pog Rebecca los txog, nws hu mus muab
Hmoob 18 Xeem xyuas thiab qhia qhov tseeb hais tias txhua yam Laura
hais ntawd muaj tseeb yog Hmoob 18 Xeem tsis tseg txoj kev limhiam, nws
yuav ua kom Hmoob 18 Xeem lub nkoj tog zaum no. Vim yog li no, Hmoob 18
Xeem thiaj ntshai, ces thiaj nkaum tau 5-6 hli no lawm. Tabsi tamsim no
ces pog Rebecca nqus nqus tsis tau Laura's blood, ces nws thiaj muab
Laura ntaus. Zaum no nws tig kiag rau Hmoob 18 Xeem rau qhov nws pom
lawv rog rog phlu liab plaim. Kuv ntseeg tias nws yuav tsau ib ntus
lau.
Nej puas tau mag Fiab los yog leech ntxais ntshav na? Nws ntxais
ntxais, thaum tsau lawm ces nws poob nws koj yeej tsis pom li. Tos hnov
xwb twb mob mob lawm.
KM.
Post by phabej
Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Cia ua li koj hais, txhob rawm maj hais tias nkawv leej twg yog tus
txhaum los yog tus phem vim peb tsis tau paub qhov tseeb. Ua li cas los
peb yeej yuav pom qhov kawg xwb.
Kuj txawv kawg li tiag txhua txhia zaum mas peb suav daws tham txog LX
mas nws yeej tawm plaws tuaj thuav nws zaj rau peb mloog tab sis ua cas
zaum no LX ho nyob ntsiag to tsis nti li.
Li koj hais, pab LX thiab pog RS nkawv tu siab hais tias nkawv twb yog
phooj ywg zoo es cas txog kawg ho sib zawm caj dab yam niag tsis txaus
ntseeg kiag li.
Phooj ywg KM,
Qhov koj hais Nuj Yob mus nrog Ntxwj Nyuam (what is Ntxwj Nyuam) sib
ntaus sib tua mas tseem haib tshaj qhov LX poob qhov thee lawm (cia siv
koj qhov piv txwv zoo dua). Ua li phooj ywg Xejthim hais lawm, xav kom
Nuj Yob (LX) tawm npuas dawb nkaus xwb. Yog li thov ntuj pab Nuj Yob
kom Nuj Yob txhob tawm npuas (ntshav ntswg) liab thiab dub.
Peb npaj siab tos saib kom txog qhov kawg lawm ntag. Yog muaj dab tsi
yeej meem tso tuaj rau peb pom ntag. Txhob ua li zaum tas no es LX yuav
cab H18X mus nkag nkuaj no tab sis cia li ploj lawm ntsiag to tau 5 6
lub hlis no tsis hnov hais tau H18X quav ci noj.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 17:48:38 UTC
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Phajej aw yog LX muaj lub siab phem npaj nroos yuav foob Hmoob 18 Xeem
kom tuag li lawv ua rau LX xwb mas, LX yeej tsis lam muab lawv lub qe
nthuav tawm rau ntiaj teb paub li os. Yog foob es muab tau 2 tug Hmoob
18 Xeem ntawd mus kaw xwb es yuav lam tas nas. Tsuas yog nej es thiaj
tseem xav tias txoj cai mas yog Hmoob 18 Xeem tuav, Hmoob 18 Xeem hais
li cas kom LX mloog li ntawd. LX tso rau the Law Enforcement saib xyuas
kev ncaj ncees, nws tsis zoo li nej es yuav take the law in your own
hand os.

Kuv xav mas tsim nyog Hmoob 18 Xeem ua LX tsaug rau qhov nws pab kaw
lawv lub qhov ncauj dag pejxeem huab hwm mus rau txoj kev puas tsuaj.
Koj txhob tuaj twv twv tsam LX ho tawm tuaj muab Hmoob 18 Xeem thiab
lawv cov gangs rhuav dua xwb los ma. Ua cas koj tau zoo nyob tsis nyob
es pheej yuav tuaj dig ub dig no li koj nas.

KM
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Koj tuaj hais txheem LX tau zoo kawg li. Xyov ua cas LX nej ho tsis tiv
thaiv tom ntej hos pheej nyiam tiv thaiv tom qab.
Peb ua neeg nyob thaum yus twb paub tseeb tseeb hais tias leej twg yog
cov caum yus tua pov tseg. Yus twb muab hais tawm rau lub nriaj teb no
nrog hnov nrog paub tag li LX hais ntawv lawm. Tab sis txog kawg yus ho
cab tsis tau cov neeg phem ntawv mus kham nkuaj raws txoj cai tswj hwm
kev ncaj ncees kav lub nriaj teb no ces xyov yog yus ua neej nyob lub
ntuj twg lawm?
Txoj cai loj tshaj plaws pov hwm tib neeg txoj sia thoob qab ntuj khwb
no ces yog txoj cai tiv thaiv kev tua neeg xwb. Raws li LX hais, H18X
twb caum tua LX tab sis yog tua tsis tau xwb, ua cas thaum rov los txog
tim no LX ho cia pog RS hu mus hem H18X xwb, cas ho tsis cia nom tswv
hu mus ma? Txhais tau hais tias RS yeej muaj connection zoo nrog H18X
ua ntej nkawv mus tim Thaib lawm, es ziag no RS thiaj mus koom tes nrog
lawv lawm, puas yog? Yog tsis li ntawv ntshe H18X yuav tsis lam mloog
pog RS hais thiab pog RS los yuav tsis lam hais H18X kiag li nav.
Twb yog txim tua neeg kiag tab sis LX thiab RS nkawv ho tsis mauj peev
xwm hais tau, ho tso H18X dim dawb dim do, something is really wrong
with LX and RS. Tej zaum ntshe yog LX thiab RS nkawv tsis txawj noj mov
no mas thiaj li hais tsis tau. Los yog nkawv dag li H18X hais es thiaj
tsis muaj cuab kav foob tau H18X li suav daws pom los tau 5 6 hlis no.
Txog kawg nkawv thiaj rov sib tog nkawv vim pog RS yeej tuaj H18X tog
los lawm ntev, leej twg yuav paub?
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Raws li kuv sojntsuam xyuas mas thaum ntawd yog Hmoo 18 Xeem yuav cab
LX mus tom court, tabsi thaum pog Rebecca los txog, nws hu mus muab
Hmoob 18 Xeem xyuas thiab qhia qhov tseeb hais tias txhua yam Laura
hais ntawd muaj tseeb yog Hmoob 18 Xeem tsis tseg txoj kev limhiam, nws
yuav ua kom Hmoob 18 Xeem lub nkoj tog zaum no. Vim yog li no, Hmoob 18
Xeem thiaj ntshai, ces thiaj nkaum tau 5-6 hli no lawm. Tabsi tamsim no
ces pog Rebecca nqus nqus tsis tau Laura's blood, ces nws thiaj muab
Laura ntaus. Zaum no nws tig kiag rau Hmoob 18 Xeem rau qhov nws pom
lawv rog rog phlu liab plaim. Kuv ntseeg tias nws yuav tsau ib ntus
lau.
Nej puas tau mag Fiab los yog leech ntxais ntshav na? Nws ntxais
ntxais, thaum tsau lawm ces nws poob nws koj yeej tsis pom li. Tos hnov
xwb twb mob mob lawm.
KM.
Post by phabej
Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Cia ua li koj hais, txhob rawm maj hais tias nkawv leej twg yog tus
txhaum los yog tus phem vim peb tsis tau paub qhov tseeb. Ua li cas los
peb yeej yuav pom qhov kawg xwb.
Kuj txawv kawg li tiag txhua txhia zaum mas peb suav daws tham txog LX
mas nws yeej tawm plaws tuaj thuav nws zaj rau peb mloog tab sis ua cas
zaum no LX ho nyob ntsiag to tsis nti li.
Li koj hais, pab LX thiab pog RS nkawv tu siab hais tias nkawv twb yog
phooj ywg zoo es cas txog kawg ho sib zawm caj dab yam niag tsis txaus
ntseeg kiag li.
Phooj ywg KM,
Qhov koj hais Nuj Yob mus nrog Ntxwj Nyuam (what is Ntxwj Nyuam) sib
ntaus sib tua mas tseem haib tshaj qhov LX poob qhov thee lawm (cia siv
koj qhov piv txwv zoo dua). Ua li phooj ywg Xejthim hais lawm, xav kom
Nuj Yob (LX) tawm npuas dawb nkaus xwb. Yog li thov ntuj pab Nuj Yob
kom Nuj Yob txhob tawm npuas (ntshav ntswg) liab thiab dub.
Peb npaj siab tos saib kom txog qhov kawg lawm ntag. Yog muaj dab tsi
yeej meem tso tuaj rau peb pom ntag. Txhob ua li zaum tas no es LX yuav
cab H18X mus nkag nkuaj no tab sis cia li ploj lawm ntsiag to tau 5 6
lub hlis no tsis hnov hais tau H18X quav ci noj.
l***@lycos.com
2006-03-29 07:17:24 UTC
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Ib tug yog ua los ntawm Huabtais ntuj txoj Hmoov zoo ua siab dawb paug
qi muag nti mus raws li dej siab dej ntsws ntshaw thiab txawj ua tau.
Ib tug yog mus raws txoj kev nrhiav noj nrhiav haus kom tau nyiaj tau
txiaj coj los ua luam yog teg dejnum tsis mus li lub siab xav tau ces
xyuas kiag lwm seem seb yuav ua tau dab tsi ntxiv. Tus no nws siv leej
tibneeg txomnyem lub npe mus ntxias noj ntxias haus thiab hais tus nws
yuav los ua tus hais kev ncaj ncees tabsis nws txawm yog tus uas xub
abuse human rights ntag. Cov qhaub lus li nram qab no yog hais tias
nej tej tus tseem tsis tau paub:

1. Neeg plua nuj tsawg leej kawg kiag thiaj tau nom ua
2. Neeg plua nuj feem ntau yog cov qia dub
3. Neeg plua nuj siv hwjchim
4. Neeg plua nuj thuam cov poob qab

Pes tsawg leej cov nyob hauv no txaus siab mus nrog RS ua haujlwm?

Nom
Post by phabej
Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Cia ua li koj hais, txhob rawm maj hais tias nkawv leej twg yog tus
txhaum los yog tus phem vim peb tsis tau paub qhov tseeb. Ua li cas los
peb yeej yuav pom qhov kawg xwb.
Kuj txawv kawg li tiag txhua txhia zaum mas peb suav daws tham txog LX
mas nws yeej tawm plaws tuaj thuav nws zaj rau peb mloog tab sis ua cas
zaum no LX ho nyob ntsiag to tsis nti li.
Li koj hais, pab LX thiab pog RS nkawv tu siab hais tias nkawv twb yog
phooj ywg zoo es cas txog kawg ho sib zawm caj dab yam niag tsis txaus
ntseeg kiag li.
Phooj ywg KM,
Qhov koj hais Nuj Yob mus nrog Ntxwj Nyuam (what is Ntxwj Nyuam) sib
ntaus sib tua mas tseem haib tshaj qhov LX poob qhov thee lawm (cia siv
koj qhov piv txwv zoo dua). Ua li phooj ywg Xejthim hais lawm, xav kom
Nuj Yob (LX) tawm npuas dawb nkaus xwb. Yog li thov ntuj pab Nuj Yob
kom Nuj Yob txhob tawm npuas (ntshav ntswg) liab thiab dub.
Peb npaj siab tos saib kom txog qhov kawg lawm ntag. Yog muaj dab tsi
yeej meem tso tuaj rau peb pom ntag. Txhob ua li zaum tas no es LX yuav
cab H18X mus nkag nkuaj no tab sis cia li ploj lawm ntsiag to tau 5 6
lub hlis no tsis hnov hais tau H18X quav ci noj.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:26:59 UTC
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Rebecca wrote the letter. She is telling the truth. Laura took the
wrong footage, and has refused to give it back. It is Khmer footage.
But she was not entitled to take any footage whatsoever. Rebecca is a
fine filmmaker, and she was doing Laura a favor -- until she discovered
that some of the translations were being falsified, it seems by Laura.
This could have gotten Rebecca in a bit of trouble, so she declined to
go further with this project. Now Laura is spreading untruths about
Rebecca. This is a very unfortunate situation.
h***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 17:01:21 UTC
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KUV ho xav li no. yog hais tias LAURA XIONG siv nws li nyiaj txiag coj
mus khiav tej hauj lwm no pab HMOOB DAWB DAWB xwb los tseem muaj cov
zoo li tus phoojywg PHAEJ no niaj hnub rhuav tshem LAURA XIONG li no
mas kuv xav HMOOB YUAV laj VAM MEEJ tau no.

LAURA XIONG , tsis tau dag leej twg nyiaj los noj. PEB cov zaum ib cag
ntsia sai peb pom hais tias LAURA XIONG yeej ua tau hauj lwm zoo kawg
nkaus tsis muaj ib tug twg yuav muaj siab pab HMOOB npaum LAURA XIONG
lawm. YOG KOJ ho pom hais tias LAURA XIONG fabricates dab tsi ces hais
kiag tuaj peb mam nrog koj taug xwb. TXIV NEEJ YAWG tso zis TUAV QAU
RAWV hais lus yuav tsum tom HNIAV NRAWV laiv.

TUBNTSUAGRUAM
Post by phabej
2 tug phooj ywg,
Kuv tsis pom zoo li neb hais, kuv xav txawv neb deb heev heev. Kuv ho
pom tias ua li no mas Hmoob thiaj li yuav vam meej taus lawm yav tom
ntej. Kuv txhais hais tias yog Hmoob leej twg ua zoo ces suav daws sib
cog yuav thiab khaws mus siv hos yog leej twg ua tsis zoo (ua
fabrication work li LX thiab coob tus kujxaj) ces lawv yuav tsum tau
responsible rau lawv teg hauj lwm (their action) thiab cov nyob sab
nraum yuav tsum muaj cai los txhwj, tshum, thiab los hais lawv kom lawv
txhob ua ntxiv lawm.
phabej
2006-03-27 17:43:34 UTC
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Phooj ywg Tubntsuag,

Koj to taub kuv yuam kev deb. Tej zaum koj yog hom neeg hais lus mos
lus tuaj pos los kuj tsis paub? Kuv tsis tau rhuav tshem LX li koj
hais, tab sis yog kuv pab txhawj xeeb txog nws tej hauj lwm es kuv
thiaj cheem kom nws xyuam xim xwb. Yog tus tsis thoob tsib ces yuav
hais li koj hais no los tau, tab sis yog tus noj xaiv noj lus mas tseem
yuav ua kuv tsaug thiaj yog. Koj saib ma kuv twb yeej xub xub tuam LX
xub pwg puag thaum ntxov uas nws twb tsis tau mus tim Thaib, tab sis
nws tsis mloog. Koj saib txog kawg LX thiaj mag niam pog Sommer xyuas
sab ntsuav li no ntag. Koj rov mus nyeem kuv cov posts es koj mam li
txiav txim seb puas yog li kuv hais?

Kuv tsis muaj dab tsi yuav nrog koj hais ntxiv lawm. Ziag no nws lig
dhau li lawm os, LX twb sab lawm txawm hais los tsis tau dab tsi lawm
os phooj ywg. Koj mloog kuv hais nawj, yog LX mloog peb txhia hais es
tsis txhob maj mus thab cov Hmoob tim DD ces LX yeej tsis raug tej teeb
meem uas Hmoob 18 Xeem raws tua nws pov tseg thiab ziag no LX yeej tsis
mag ua plaub nrog niam pog RS li los mav.

Cov neeg uas pheej qhuas qhuas LX li koj ko ces yog cov niag thawb kom
LX mus poob qhov thee xwb tiag. Zaum no qhov thee kub heev li ov. Yog
kub los ntawm RS thiab Hmoob 18 Xeem xwb mas nyaj yuav tsis luaj twg,
tab sis yog kub los ntawm FBI uas kis los ntawm Thaib, UN, thiab US DOS
mas ntshe yuav kub ti txha tsawv ntag nawj. Koj tus nyob ze zog LX mas
haj yam yuav paub txog tej no zoo heev mos phooj ywg.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:30:21 UTC
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Laura took footage that was not hers to take, and will not give it
back. Rebecca is extremely trustworthy. I would trust her with my
life. Laura remains in possession of footage that is not hers, is not
relevant to the Hmong, that is of the Khmer. The Khmer are the losers
in this situation, because they do not have any of the footage, and
they paid most of the travel costs -- not Laura. If I have understood
correctly. But this is what the President of the Khmer organization
told me himself. He has asked Laura to return the footage, please.
She once said she would, but then decided not to. She is in possession
of property that is absolutely not hers.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:31:14 UTC
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No fabrication. All true, sadly. Ask Laura to return the Khmer
footage to its rightful owners.
phabej
2006-03-27 15:14:44 UTC
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Cov phooj ywg,

I told you all about the fabrication work of RS and LX from the very
begging while they were still in Thailand. Now you can see my back and
forth babbling with LX is confirmed. Again and again, LX shoot herself
badly this time. I feel bad for them both who praise themselves as
professional human rights advocates but now ragged down one another as
worse human wrongs doers.

Whether the claim of RS that LX had manipulated her true or not is not
important, the truth of the matter is, LX had proudly informed the
whole world that RS is a best friend to her as well as an UN official
representative. I don't care what they are fighting here like cat and
dog, that's their business, but they full fill their promise to bring
over the Hmong Chao Fa in DD or else they both should face further
consequences by lying to the Hmong and more importantly using the Hmong
for their own gain.

FYI, RS is not an English native. She is from Europe or somewhere else.


P.S., RS must be educed by some Hmong factions (e.g., LX's culprits).
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 15:23:17 UTC
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worse of all, RS will suck more Hmong blood than what she already did
LX's.

Let's wait and see who would be the next victim of RS.

KM
Post by phabej
Cov phooj ywg,
I told you all about the fabrication work of RS and LX from the very
begging while they were still in Thailand. Now you can see my back and
forth babbling with LX is confirmed. Again and again, LX shoot herself
badly this time. I feel bad for them both who praise themselves as
professional human rights advocates but now ragged down one another as
worse human wrongs doers.
Whether the claim of RS that LX had manipulated her true or not is not
important, the truth of the matter is, LX had proudly informed the
whole world that RS is a best friend to her as well as an UN official
representative. I don't care what they are fighting here like cat and
dog, that's their business, but they full fill their promise to bring
over the Hmong Chao Fa in DD or else they both should face further
consequences by lying to the Hmong and more importantly using the Hmong
for their own gain.
FYI, RS is not an English native. She is from Europe or somewhere else.
P.S., RS must be educed by some Hmong factions (e.g., LX's culprits).
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
phabej
2006-03-27 15:55:36 UTC
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Phooj ywg KM,

I completely agree with you. I hope it's a good lesson for the Hmong
and they should not let RS suck their blood as much as she did to LX.
At the same, I hope LX had learned the biggest lesson ever in her life.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:22:42 UTC
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You've got it backwards. In this situation, Rebecca is truly the
victim.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:33:09 UTC
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I'm afraid it was Rebecca who learned the greatest lesson, and who has
been harmed the most. Also, the Khmer, who have lost the footage that
Rebecca made for them -- which Laura is wrongfully in possession of.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 15:16:33 UTC
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indigenous, have you seen the grave digging in Thamkrabok? If you and
your organizations need help, please let us know.

km
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Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
Xejthim
2006-03-27 15:16:35 UTC
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This letter must from someone who is trying to ignite the fire pit. It
is poorly written so I don't think it is a work of Rebecca Sommer,
unless she is not fluent in English.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:20:45 UTC
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She is not fluent in English. Her native tongue is German. She is
also fluent in Portuguese, and speaks some Spanish. She is very
honest. I have known her personally for several years, and have worked
with her as well. Too bad everyone is not so truthful.
TswvYim
2006-03-27 18:15:21 UTC
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Kuv ntseeg neeg tawv dawb tshaj Hmoob. Hmoob hom uas qab rooj. Cias kuv
tuaj Rebecca Sommer tog. Nej yuav hais lis cas mas cov Phooj Ywg?
fajkhaum
2006-03-27 21:13:45 UTC
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Sawvdaws,

Aub yau.... cas yuav mus zoo li no? Puas yog npau Hmoob los yog npau
suav?

Laura .... come my way better.

Faj
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 21:45:55 UTC
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Cov phoojywg, nej tsis txhob rawm txhawj txhawj txog qhov tus pog
Rebecca yuav foob Laura. Laura muaj evidence txaus lawm. Txawm leejtwg
yuav koom nrog Pog Rebecca los tsis matter. What really matter is that
who did what to whom.

What is being discussed here is the same old thing that happened in the
last thirty years. They no longer have the ability to fight with the
tiger, so they turn around to fight with the kitten.

KM
Post by fajkhaum
Sawvdaws,
Aub yau.... cas yuav mus zoo li no? Puas yog npau Hmoob los yog npau
suav?
Laura .... come my way better.
Faj
Born2beHmong
2006-03-28 05:05:12 UTC
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KM-

yog hais li koj hais hauv no mas, tsi yog lawm aws. tsi muaj leej twg
yuav worry txog LX los yog RS, tabsi lub niam tswvyim ua nkawv rov
sibtog nkawv li no xwb twb ua rau sawv daws poob ntsej poob muag tag.
tsi tag yuav mus sibfoob thiab sibhais li os. ob tug neeg ua mus ua ib
qhov mission rov los, es tseem los sibtog lino. ces tsua yog lam hais
kom zoo mloog lawm xwb, lub tej neeg ntse thiab paub tab li peb ib
txias no ces twb tsi muaj lub ntsej lub muag hais ib los lus li lawm
mas mog os. yog tseem yuav sib npav thiab sib foob li no rau cov neeg
professional line of work li no ces--tusiab ua ntej lawm os mog tus
phoojywg aws!

Born2behmong
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Cov phoojywg, nej tsis txhob rawm txhawj txhawj txog qhov tus pog
Rebecca yuav foob Laura. Laura muaj evidence txaus lawm. Txawm leejtwg
yuav koom nrog Pog Rebecca los tsis matter. What really matter is that

who did what to whom.

What is being discussed here is the same old thing that happened in the

last thirty years. They no longer have the ability to fight with the
tiger, so they turn around to fight with the kitten.


KM
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 06:01:12 UTC
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Thaub Born, es leejtwg yog tus yuav foob leejtwg na? Raws li kuv paub
mas yog tus pog Sommer ntawd yuav foob LX xwb na. Hos LX mas yeej tsis
muaj lub sijhawm yuav nrog leejtwg sibfoob li nawb. Tabsi yog thaum LX
tsis foob los luag mus ntiav neeg los foob yus lawm no koj yuav ua cas
ma? Kawg yuav tau defend yus tus kheej thiab hos. Yog tej nyuag no xwb
koj twb txaj muag lawm ces kav tsij mus kauv pam pw xwb txhob tawm kiag
thiaj tsis txaj muag os mog.

Yog cov neeg paub txoj cai sibluag lawm, ib tug tsis txho qhuab yuam
caij tsuj ib leeg nawb.
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KM-
yog hais li koj hais hauv no mas, tsi yog lawm aws. tsi muaj leej twg
yuav worry txog LX los yog RS, tabsi lub niam tswvyim ua nkawv rov
sibtog nkawv li no xwb twb ua rau sawv daws poob ntsej poob muag tag.
Tiag lod, es twb tsis worry txog ob tug neeg ntawd es ntsej muag ho
poob taus ma? Kuv yog yeeb ncuab mas kuv nyiam cov neeg ua ntsej muag
poob sai sai li koj xwb tiag. Cov neeg ntsej muag poob sai sai li koj
mas yuav tau mus kauv pam pw xwb thiaj tsis poob ntsej muag mog.
Post by Born2beHmong
tsi tag yuav mus sibfoob thiab sibhais li os. ob tug neeg ua mus ua ib
qhov mission rov los, es tseem los sibtog lino. ces tsua yog lam hais
kom zoo mloog lawm xwb, lub tej neeg ntse thiab paub tab li peb ib
txias no ces twb tsi muaj lub ntsej lub muag hais ib los lus li lawm
mas mog os.
Yog hais tias ntse thiab paub tab li nej diam, tshe tej nyuag teebmeem
me me no xwb twb tsis txaus hais no mob. Ua cas tej nyuag teebmeem me
me li no xwb twb tsis muaj lub ntsej muag hais ib lo lawm es, yuav ua
cas muaj lub ntsej muag mus fim nom tswv nplog liab kom lawv hlub nej
tej kwv tij na? Tsis tas li ntawd, yog ntse thiab paub tab tag npaum
nej lawm es ua cas tseem ntshai hais yog thaum luag tab meeg muab yus
haiv neeg coj mus muag noj muag haus thiab tab meeg tuaj dag tuaj rhuav
yus lub ntsej muag rau teb rau chaw?
Post by Born2beHmong
yog tseem yuav sib npav thiab sib foob li no rau cov neeg
professional line of work li no ces--tusiab ua ntej lawm os mog tus
phoojywg aws!
Ua cas twb hais tias ntse ntse no es, tseem tsis paub txog hais tias
yog thaum yus tsis foob los luag yuav foob ces yus yeej tsis dim, kawg
yuav tau mus nrog luag sibhais no ne. Puas yog ntse tiag ma? Lub
tebchaw vam meej lawm, yog muaj lus tsis sib haum siab, dont take the
law in your own hand, take it to court. Yog ntse tiag, yuav tsum paub
txog tej no thiaj tsis tu tu siab rau yus tus kheej nawb mog..
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Born2behmong
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Cov phoojywg, nej tsis txhob rawm txhawj txhawj txog qhov tus pog
Rebecca yuav foob Laura. Laura muaj evidence txaus lawm. Txawm leejtwg
yuav koom nrog Pog Rebecca los tsis matter. What really matter is that
who did what to whom.
What is being discussed here is the same old thing that happened in the
last thirty years. They no longer have the ability to fight with the
tiger, so they turn around to fight with the kitten.
KM
Born2beHmong
2006-03-28 16:36:57 UTC
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KM-

tus neeg tsi nkagsiab, ces yeej tsi nkagsiab, ua tsaug!

B2BH
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Thaub Born, es leejtwg yog tus yuav foob leejtwg na? Raws li kuv paub
mas yog tus pog Sommer ntawd yuav foob LX xwb na. Hos LX mas yeej tsis
muaj lub sijhawm yuav nrog leejtwg sibfoob li nawb. Tabsi yog thaum LX
tsis foob los luag mus ntiav neeg los foob yus lawm no koj yuav ua cas
ma? Kawg yuav tau defend yus tus kheej thiab hos. Yog tej nyuag no xwb
koj twb txaj muag lawm ces kav tsij mus kauv pam pw xwb txhob tawm kiag
thiaj tsis txaj muag os mog.
Yog cov neeg paub txoj cai sibluag lawm, ib tug tsis txho qhuab yuam
caij tsuj ib leeg nawb.
Post by Born2beHmong
KM-
yog hais li koj hais hauv no mas, tsi yog lawm aws. tsi muaj leej twg
yuav worry txog LX los yog RS, tabsi lub niam tswvyim ua nkawv rov
sibtog nkawv li no xwb twb ua rau sawv daws poob ntsej poob muag tag.
Tiag lod, es twb tsis worry txog ob tug neeg ntawd es ntsej muag ho
poob taus ma? Kuv yog yeeb ncuab mas kuv nyiam cov neeg ua ntsej muag
poob sai sai li koj xwb tiag. Cov neeg ntsej muag poob sai sai li koj
mas yuav tau mus kauv pam pw xwb thiaj tsis poob ntsej muag mog.
Post by Born2beHmong
tsi tag yuav mus sibfoob thiab sibhais li os. ob tug neeg ua mus ua ib
qhov mission rov los, es tseem los sibtog lino. ces tsua yog lam hais
kom zoo mloog lawm xwb, lub tej neeg ntse thiab paub tab li peb ib
txias no ces twb tsi muaj lub ntsej lub muag hais ib los lus li lawm
mas mog os.
Yog hais tias ntse thiab paub tab li nej diam, tshe tej nyuag teebmeem
me me no xwb twb tsis txaus hais no mob. Ua cas tej nyuag teebmeem me
me li no xwb twb tsis muaj lub ntsej muag hais ib lo lawm es, yuav ua
cas muaj lub ntsej muag mus fim nom tswv nplog liab kom lawv hlub nej
tej kwv tij na? Tsis tas li ntawd, yog ntse thiab paub tab tag npaum
nej lawm es ua cas tseem ntshai hais yog thaum luag tab meeg muab yus
haiv neeg coj mus muag noj muag haus thiab tab meeg tuaj dag tuaj rhuav
yus lub ntsej muag rau teb rau chaw?
Post by Born2beHmong
yog tseem yuav sib npav thiab sib foob li no rau cov neeg
professional line of work li no ces--tusiab ua ntej lawm os mog tus
phoojywg aws!
Ua cas twb hais tias ntse ntse no es, tseem tsis paub txog hais tias
yog thaum yus tsis foob los luag yuav foob ces yus yeej tsis dim, kawg
yuav tau mus nrog luag sibhais no ne. Puas yog ntse tiag ma? Lub
tebchaw vam meej lawm, yog muaj lus tsis sib haum siab, dont take the
law in your own hand, take it to court. Yog ntse tiag, yuav tsum paub
txog tej no thiaj tsis tu tu siab rau yus tus kheej nawb mog..
Post by Born2beHmong
Born2behmong
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Cov phoojywg, nej tsis txhob rawm txhawj txhawj txog qhov tus pog
Rebecca yuav foob Laura. Laura muaj evidence txaus lawm. Txawm leejtwg
yuav koom nrog Pog Rebecca los tsis matter. What really matter is that
who did what to whom.
What is being discussed here is the same old thing that happened in the
last thirty years. They no longer have the ability to fight with the
tiger, so they turn around to fight with the kitten.
KM
phabej
2006-03-28 17:22:32 UTC
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,

Kuv tsis xav hais tias yawg/pog KM paub txog qhov nws tham li nov, koj
puas xav li ntawv?
Born2beHmong
2006-03-28 17:55:15 UTC
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Phabej-

txawm paub thiab tsi paub los tsi tseemceeb qhov twg ntxiv lawm--tej
haujlwm no twb paimquav tag li daim email saum no hais thiab Tubntsuag
los twb confirm txog hais tias tej no yeej muaj me me lawm thiab, yeej
tsi tsuav qhov twb thiaj li tseem ceeb li lawm, thiab tseem yuav sib
tshum rau ub tshum rau no li cas ntxiv lawm. txawm koj yuav cam thiab
tsi cam los yog reason npaum li cas los, tsuas yog lam tham kom tag li
"Hmoob/Moob/Mhoob" ib txwm tham los povtseg lawm xwb. the most
essential evidences were being destroy by their professionalism and
integrity, and principle (corruption has already been taking place).
and, nowadays they are grabing onto each other's throat....and,
Phabej--if you were asking me for my opinion, then i believe that it is
very unprofessional from both sides, and i told you so long time ago.

Born2beHmong
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 18:17:35 UTC
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Raws li kuv hnov mas tus pog Rebecca yeej tau ntaus LX thiab raug kaw,
tseem poob nyiaj ntxiv thiab. Yus tus Hmoob mas ua zoo npaum twg los
yeej tseem raug Hmoob cem thiab hais lus saib tsis tau. Yog LX tseem
cia tus pog ntawd muab Hmoob DD cov duab coj mus muag noj muag haus
thiab mas ntshai nej tseem yuav muab LX cem txhog qhov twg pob. LX yeej
tiv thaiv nws haiv neeg tiag tiag ov. Yog leejtwg ua tsis ncaj ces
txawm yuav sib do txog qhov twg los kuv xav mas LX yuav tsis nyoo li
nawb.

Yog tus twg muaj lub siab phem li tus pog Sommer ntawd lawm ces txaus
hu tub ceev xwm los yeej hu li na. Kuv nyob LX qhov situation los kuv
yeej yuav hu tub ceeb xwm thiab ov. nej saib pog Rebecca Sommer twb
raug ntes kaw los nws tseem tuaj dag rau VP lawv hais tias Laura raug
ntes kaw lawm thiab no ne. Pog Rebecca twb hu mus muab hmoob 18 Xeem
cem ua lawv nplaig tu tag tabsi thaum nws rov tuaj ntxias nqus lawv
ntshav, nws hais tias tej LX hais mas tsis muaj tseeb li os, no los
Hmoob 18 Xeem and Neohom tseem ntseeg thiab.



Thaub Born thiab Phajej neb ces yog tus hmoob lawm ces ua zsj twg los
txhaum neb lawm. Ua cas neb yuav yug los txhaum ua Hmoob lawm ne,
especially Born2
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Phabej-
txawm paub thiab tsi paub los tsi tseemceeb qhov twg ntxiv lawm--tej
haujlwm no twb paimquav tag li daim email saum no hais thiab Tubntsuag
los twb confirm txog hais tias tej no yeej muaj me me lawm thiab, yeej
tsi tsuav qhov twb thiaj li tseem ceeb li lawm, thiab tseem yuav sib
tshum rau ub tshum rau no li cas ntxiv lawm. txawm koj yuav cam thiab
tsi cam los yog reason npaum li cas los, tsuas yog lam tham kom tag li
"Hmoob/Moob/Mhoob" ib txwm tham los povtseg lawm xwb. the most
essential evidences were being destroy by their professionalism and
integrity, and principle (corruption has already been taking place).
and, nowadays they are grabing onto each other's throat....and,
Phabej--if you were asking me for my opinion, then i believe that it is
very unprofessional from both sides, and i told you so long time ago.
Born2beHmong
phabej
2006-03-28 18:43:26 UTC
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,

Kuv los pom kiag li koj hais thiab. Qhov nkawv tau ua dhau mus lawm no
yuav rub tsis tau rov qab los li lawm. Yog koj xav paub zoo tshaj qhov
no ntxiv, koj hu mus nug cov kwv tij neej tsa Hmoob tim DD. Tab sis ua
li koj hais, nkawv 2 tug cwj pwm mas tsis professional kiag li, zoo li
me nyuam yaus so ntswg tav toj xwb. Yeej yog li koj hais lawm pab nkawv
txaj muag tiag li.

Kuv ces yog niag neeg hlwb khiav qeeb qeeb thiab es koj twb hais ntau
lwm tag lawm los kuv pheej tseem tham tas zog rau koj ntxiv li. Kuv xav
tias KM yuav nyob ze LX heev li, yog hais tias nws tsis yog kiag LX na.
Tam li kuv cov phooj ywg hais mas zoo li KM nyob Nebraska, Omaha los
tsis sub. Tej zaum nws yuav yog LX tus spokesperson los tsis paub. Yog
zoo hais no, pab hais rau KM tias yog nws yuav tuaj hais LX cov lus rau
peb mloog mas xav kom nws paub hais lus me ntsis es thiaj li tsis sav
tsam LX. Vim zoo li nws tsis tshua txawj hais lus li pes tsawg. Peb ib
txhia mas tos tsis hnyoo li ov, pom dej hlob ces peb dov cav kiag xwb
nawj. Ces yog tus tsis xyuam xim tuaj tham tej teeb meem zoo li LX
thiab RS nkawv qhov no ces kawg khaub hlab li tiag.

Born2beHmong, seb yog koj nyob ze LX thiab KM no ces pab hais rau nkawv
thiab os nawj, thaum puas tsuaj tuaj sais nws kuj tsis yog lwm leej twg
laiv, nws yog yus cov Hmoob xwb hov. Vim kuv yog niag neeg hais lus
nchav nchav ces LX ib txwm yeej tsis hwm kuv hais kiag li, yog li kuv
yuav tsis hais, tab sis cia nej mam hais.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 18:54:26 UTC
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Phajej, ob tug yuav ua kom hmoob puas ces yog neb ntag lau. Kuv tsi
nyob ze LX nawb. LX nyob North Carolina. Kuv yog ib tug neeg paub txog
lawv tej lus no xwb. Hais txog tus pog Rebecca thiab LX ntawd mas neb
yuav tau tseg nawb. Yog neb tsis tseg, neb ua tiag ces kawg puas xwb
tiag lau. Vim tamsim no LX yog tus victim lawm, peb yuav tau defend nws
txhua yam thiab ov. Hos yog neb twb yog Hmoob, neb tsis paub qab tog
hau xauv, neb tseem tuaj muab LX cem tas zog ces peb cov nyob ib cag
yauv maub Laura thiab Pog Rebecca no rooj plaub ua puas loj zuj zus
ntag hos Laura yog Hmoob, peb paub hais tias Laura yeej tsis tau ua
txhaum, tabsi cov zoo li nej no ntag, cov ua yuav ua kom rooj plaub no
loj zuj zus na. Leejtag yog tus coj daim email no tuaj post rau hauv
no, tus ntawd yog tus yuav raug teebmeem ntag, Peb twb nrhiav thiab
paub tus neeg coj tuaj post rau hauv no lawm na. KM tuaj hais no yeej
yog tuaj defend LX tiag, vim nws yog Hmoob thiab kuv paub txog nws cov
teebmeem ne. Nej ho paub nws cov teebmeem zoo npaum li cas, es ho yuav
tuaj hais li neb.

Kuv tsis yog LX nawb.

KM
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Kuv los pom kiag li koj hais thiab. Qhov nkawv tau ua dhau mus lawm no
yuav rub tsis tau rov qab los li lawm. Yog koj xav paub zoo tshaj qhov
no ntxiv, koj hu mus nug cov kwv tij neej tsa Hmoob tim DD. Tab sis ua
li koj hais, nkawv 2 tug cwj pwm mas tsis professional kiag li, zoo li
me nyuam yaus so ntswg tav toj xwb. Yeej yog li koj hais lawm pab nkawv
txaj muag tiag li.
Kuv ces yog niag neeg hlwb khiav qeeb qeeb thiab es koj twb hais ntau
lwm tag lawm los kuv pheej tseem tham tas zog rau koj ntxiv li. Kuv xav
tias KM yuav nyob ze LX heev li, yog hais tias nws tsis yog kiag LX na.
Tam li kuv cov phooj ywg hais mas zoo li KM nyob Nebraska, Omaha los
tsis sub. Tej zaum nws yuav yog LX tus spokesperson los tsis paub. Yog
zoo hais no, pab hais rau KM tias yog nws yuav tuaj hais LX cov lus rau
peb mloog mas xav kom nws paub hais lus me ntsis es thiaj li tsis sav
tsam LX. Vim zoo li nws tsis tshua txawj hais lus li pes tsawg. Peb ib
txhia mas tos tsis hnyoo li ov, pom dej hlob ces peb dov cav kiag xwb
nawj. Ces yog tus tsis xyuam xim tuaj tham tej teeb meem zoo li LX
thiab RS nkawv qhov no ces kawg khaub hlab li tiag.
Born2beHmong, seb yog koj nyob ze LX thiab KM no ces pab hais rau nkawv
thiab os nawj, thaum puas tsuaj tuaj sais nws kuj tsis yog lwm leej twg
laiv, nws yog yus cov Hmoob xwb hov. Vim kuv yog niag neeg hais lus
nchav nchav ces LX ib txwm yeej tsis hwm kuv hais kiag li, yog li kuv
yuav tsis hais, tab sis cia nej mam hais.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 19:03:36 UTC
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Tsis tag li ntawd, kuv yog tus yuav cab nej txhua tus uas tuaj Pog
Rebecca tog tawm tsam Laura ntag hos.Nej paub hais tias tamsim no yog
plaub yog ntug lawm, nej tseem muaj peev xwm coj cov lus pog Rebecca
dag no tuaj rhuav rau tej forum no thiab na. Thaum kuv side nrog Laura
thiab organize nws pab legal team lawm ces nej cov ua tuaj rhuav Laura
hauv no mag txhua tus, paub lawm lod?

Kongmeng Xiong
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Kuv los pom kiag li koj hais thiab. Qhov nkawv tau ua dhau mus lawm no
yuav rub tsis tau rov qab los li lawm. Yog koj xav paub zoo tshaj qhov
no ntxiv, koj hu mus nug cov kwv tij neej tsa Hmoob tim DD. Tab sis ua
li koj hais, nkawv 2 tug cwj pwm mas tsis professional kiag li, zoo li
me nyuam yaus so ntswg tav toj xwb. Yeej yog li koj hais lawm pab nkawv
txaj muag tiag li.
Kuv ces yog niag neeg hlwb khiav qeeb qeeb thiab es koj twb hais ntau
lwm tag lawm los kuv pheej tseem tham tas zog rau koj ntxiv li. Kuv xav
tias KM yuav nyob ze LX heev li, yog hais tias nws tsis yog kiag LX na.
Tam li kuv cov phooj ywg hais mas zoo li KM nyob Nebraska, Omaha los
tsis sub. Tej zaum nws yuav yog LX tus spokesperson los tsis paub. Yog
zoo hais no, pab hais rau KM tias yog nws yuav tuaj hais LX cov lus rau
peb mloog mas xav kom nws paub hais lus me ntsis es thiaj li tsis sav
tsam LX. Vim zoo li nws tsis tshua txawj hais lus li pes tsawg. Peb ib
txhia mas tos tsis hnyoo li ov, pom dej hlob ces peb dov cav kiag xwb
nawj. Ces yog tus tsis xyuam xim tuaj tham tej teeb meem zoo li LX
thiab RS nkawv qhov no ces kawg khaub hlab li tiag.
Born2beHmong, seb yog koj nyob ze LX thiab KM no ces pab hais rau nkawv
thiab os nawj, thaum puas tsuaj tuaj sais nws kuj tsis yog lwm leej twg
laiv, nws yog yus cov Hmoob xwb hov. Vim kuv yog niag neeg hais lus
nchav nchav ces LX ib txwm yeej tsis hwm kuv hais kiag li, yog li kuv
yuav tsis hais, tab sis cia nej mam hais.
phabej
2006-03-28 21:51:08 UTC
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Phooj ywg Kongmeng Xiong,

Koj xav tau dab tsi tiag? Koj tuaj hem peb no lod? Ua cas yus twb tsis
saib yus tus kheej hais tias yus yog leej twg thiab yus hais dab tsi
tso lau.Yog koj tsis paub qhov tseeb hais tias koj hais dab tsi no ces
txhob hais hais lawm ntshe yuav zoo dua. Auv, yuav yog thaum twg peb
txhua tus cov tuaj tham txog LX thiab RS nkawv qhov case hauv no mam
mag koj lub mav tais?

Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,

Ua cas koj yuav qeeb siab ua luaj li, maj nrawm nroos ua koj tej hauj
lwm thiab ma. Tsis li ntawv ces kawg LX mag khaub hlab zaum no tsheej
li os. Ua cas LX yuav mus xaiv tau KM tuaj sawv cev LX hauv no es KM
yuav mus hais tau lus zuav qab ua luaj li. Thov nej suav daws pab nrog
cheem tus yawg Kongmeng no ua ntej yuav pem sim loj ntxiv rau LX. Yog
nej tsis nrog cheem es pheej cia yawg tuaj ua nuj neb li no ces kawg LX
mag npuaj xwb las vim suav daws npuaj tsis tau RS nev, leej twg tawm
tuaj leej twg mag xwb las. Pab tsis tau li nawj.
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Tsis tag li ntawd, kuv yog tus yuav cab nej txhua tus uas tuaj Pog
Rebecca tog tawm tsam Laura ntag hos.Nej paub hais tias tamsim no yog
plaub yog ntug lawm, nej tseem muaj peev xwm coj cov lus pog Rebecca
dag no tuaj rhuav rau tej forum no thiab na. Thaum kuv side nrog Laura
thiab organize nws pab legal team lawm ces nej cov ua tuaj rhuav Laura
hauv no mag txhua tus, paub lawm lod?
Kongmeng Xiong
Post by phabej
Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Kuv los pom kiag li koj hais thiab. Qhov nkawv tau ua dhau mus lawm no
yuav rub tsis tau rov qab los li lawm. Yog koj xav paub zoo tshaj qhov
no ntxiv, koj hu mus nug cov kwv tij neej tsa Hmoob tim DD. Tab sis ua
li koj hais, nkawv 2 tug cwj pwm mas tsis professional kiag li, zoo li
me nyuam yaus so ntswg tav toj xwb. Yeej yog li koj hais lawm pab nkawv
txaj muag tiag li.
Kuv ces yog niag neeg hlwb khiav qeeb qeeb thiab es koj twb hais ntau
lwm tag lawm los kuv pheej tseem tham tas zog rau koj ntxiv li. Kuv xav
tias KM yuav nyob ze LX heev li, yog hais tias nws tsis yog kiag LX na.
Tam li kuv cov phooj ywg hais mas zoo li KM nyob Nebraska, Omaha los
tsis sub. Tej zaum nws yuav yog LX tus spokesperson los tsis paub. Yog
zoo hais no, pab hais rau KM tias yog nws yuav tuaj hais LX cov lus rau
peb mloog mas xav kom nws paub hais lus me ntsis es thiaj li tsis sav
tsam LX. Vim zoo li nws tsis tshua txawj hais lus li pes tsawg. Peb ib
txhia mas tos tsis hnyoo li ov, pom dej hlob ces peb dov cav kiag xwb
nawj. Ces yog tus tsis xyuam xim tuaj tham tej teeb meem zoo li LX
thiab RS nkawv qhov no ces kawg khaub hlab li tiag.
Born2beHmong, seb yog koj nyob ze LX thiab KM no ces pab hais rau nkawv
thiab os nawj, thaum puas tsuaj tuaj sais nws kuj tsis yog lwm leej twg
laiv, nws yog yus cov Hmoob xwb hov. Vim kuv yog niag neeg hais lus
nchav nchav ces LX ib txwm yeej tsis hwm kuv hais kiag li, yog li kuv
yuav tsis hais, tab sis cia nej mam hais.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 23:11:01 UTC
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phaej e...nej twb mag lawm los mas. tseem yuav tos thaum twg thiab na.
kuv tsis xav tau dabtsi tag nrog. tsuas yog xav paub hais tias nej paub
txog ob tug neeg no case zoo npaum li cas es yuav tuaj muab laura rhuav
ua luaj no xwb.
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Phooj ywg Kongmeng Xiong,
Koj xav tau dab tsi tiag? Koj tuaj hem peb no lod? Ua cas yus twb tsis
saib yus tus kheej hais tias yus yog leej twg thiab yus hais dab tsi
tso lau.Yog koj tsis paub qhov tseeb hais tias koj hais dab tsi no ces
txhob hais hais lawm ntshe yuav zoo dua. Auv, yuav yog thaum twg peb
txhua tus cov tuaj tham txog LX thiab RS nkawv qhov case hauv no mam
mag koj lub mav tais?
Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Ua cas koj yuav qeeb siab ua luaj li, maj nrawm nroos ua koj tej hauj
lwm thiab ma. Tsis li ntawv ces kawg LX mag khaub hlab zaum no tsheej
li os. Ua cas LX yuav mus xaiv tau KM tuaj sawv cev LX hauv no es KM
yuav mus hais tau lus zuav qab ua luaj li. Thov nej suav daws pab nrog
cheem tus yawg Kongmeng no ua ntej yuav pem sim loj ntxiv rau LX. Yog
nej tsis nrog cheem es pheej cia yawg tuaj ua nuj neb li no ces kawg LX
mag npuaj xwb las vim suav daws npuaj tsis tau RS nev, leej twg tawm
tuaj leej twg mag xwb las. Pab tsis tau li nawj.
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Tsis tag li ntawd, kuv yog tus yuav cab nej txhua tus uas tuaj Pog
Rebecca tog tawm tsam Laura ntag hos.Nej paub hais tias tamsim no yog
plaub yog ntug lawm, nej tseem muaj peev xwm coj cov lus pog Rebecca
dag no tuaj rhuav rau tej forum no thiab na. Thaum kuv side nrog Laura
thiab organize nws pab legal team lawm ces nej cov ua tuaj rhuav Laura
hauv no mag txhua tus, paub lawm lod?
Kongmeng Xiong
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,
Kuv los pom kiag li koj hais thiab. Qhov nkawv tau ua dhau mus lawm no
yuav rub tsis tau rov qab los li lawm. Yog koj xav paub zoo tshaj qhov
no ntxiv, koj hu mus nug cov kwv tij neej tsa Hmoob tim DD. Tab sis ua
li koj hais, nkawv 2 tug cwj pwm mas tsis professional kiag li, zoo li
me nyuam yaus so ntswg tav toj xwb. Yeej yog li koj hais lawm pab nkawv
txaj muag tiag li.
Kuv ces yog niag neeg hlwb khiav qeeb qeeb thiab es koj twb hais ntau
lwm tag lawm los kuv pheej tseem tham tas zog rau koj ntxiv li. Kuv xav
tias KM yuav nyob ze LX heev li, yog hais tias nws tsis yog kiag LX na.
Tam li kuv cov phooj ywg hais mas zoo li KM nyob Nebraska, Omaha los
tsis sub. Tej zaum nws yuav yog LX tus spokesperson los tsis paub. Yog
zoo hais no, pab hais rau KM tias yog nws yuav tuaj hais LX cov lus rau
peb mloog mas xav kom nws paub hais lus me ntsis es thiaj li tsis sav
tsam LX. Vim zoo li nws tsis tshua txawj hais lus li pes tsawg. Peb ib
txhia mas tos tsis hnyoo li ov, pom dej hlob ces peb dov cav kiag xwb
nawj. Ces yog tus tsis xyuam xim tuaj tham tej teeb meem zoo li LX
thiab RS nkawv qhov no ces kawg khaub hlab li tiag.
Born2beHmong, seb yog koj nyob ze LX thiab KM no ces pab hais rau nkawv
thiab os nawj, thaum puas tsuaj tuaj sais nws kuj tsis yog lwm leej twg
laiv, nws yog yus cov Hmoob xwb hov. Vim kuv yog niag neeg hais lus
nchav nchav ces LX ib txwm yeej tsis hwm kuv hais kiag li, yog li kuv
yuav tsis hais, tab sis cia nej mam hais.
Anti
2006-03-28 22:07:26 UTC
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kongmeng xiong stupid,

ntsej muag ruam, koj qhov threat uas yuav coj peb mus hais plaub nrog
laura neb mas peb tsis tau ntsai ab tsi li.

Kuv xav kom koj side nrog laura xiong ntag, yog koj tsis pab thiab ces
laura ces ham tsis kawg mag niag ntsej muag poj ruam rebecca ntawv muab
rhuav xwb las as. Tab sis ceev faj tsam ces laura ho poob nws txoj hauj
lwm lawm es tsis tau hauj lwm ua lawm xwb ov.

you are stupid,
amen
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 22:57:50 UTC
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Niag ntsej muag aw...thaum twg kuv tau hais tias yuav coj koj mus hais
plaub na. kuv yuav tuaj cab koj no xwb los sa. kav tsim tuaj qw tiag
mas.
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kongmeng xiong stupid,
ntsej muag ruam, koj qhov threat uas yuav coj peb mus hais plaub nrog
laura neb mas peb tsis tau ntsai ab tsi li.
Kuv xav kom koj side nrog laura xiong ntag, yog koj tsis pab thiab ces
laura ces ham tsis kawg mag niag ntsej muag poj ruam rebecca ntawv muab
rhuav xwb las as. Tab sis ceev faj tsam ces laura ho poob nws txoj hauj
lwm lawm es tsis tau hauj lwm ua lawm xwb ov.
Laura txoj haujlwm es poob lawm los she has nothing to lose os thaub.
Laura voluteer los pab hmoob xwb es txhawj dabtsi na. Cas koj yuav ruam
ua luaj.
Post by Anti
you are stupid,
amen
Born2beHmong
2006-03-28 22:11:15 UTC
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Phabej-

txhob nyuabsiab txog tej no li koj tus ua tij tau ntxhov siab no li,
thiab KM tsi yog LX os, vim nws cov kev sau ntawv thiab lub lajlim kev
tham txawv LX ntau tshaj qhov ntau lawm nawb. nws txawm yuav nyob qhov
twg thiab li cas los tsi yog wb li teebmeem thiab concern, vim yus tsua
hais txoj kiag li yus kev pom thiab kev ncaj kev ncees xwb--if speaking
of the truth hurts, then i cannot help it.

kuv li kuv hos tsi xav li koj os, vim ib tug neeg no sibtxawv lawm nws
ib yam, tej tus kuj ntse, tej tug kuj ruam, tej tus kuj paub, tej tus
kuj tsi paub (all men are not the same and each of is having individual
uniqueness ability to think and comprehend). ces nyias tsuas hais tau
li nyias lub hlwb comprehend tau xwb. yog li KM yuav hais li cas rau
kuv los tsi muaj dabtsi li os. yog hais tias yus yog neeg ntse lawm,
luag ntxhi tagli thiab rov tham kiag duas xwb. tej lus no xwb txhob
muab coj los ua lub aws los yog lub mob nawb.

mam li tham duas nawb....LOL!

Born2beHmong....real Hmong_man!
Phabej wrote>>Born2beHmong, seb yog koj nyob ze LX thiab KM no ces pab hais rau nkawv
thiab os nawj, thaum puas tsuaj tuaj sais nws kuj tsis yog lwm leej twg

laiv, nws yog yus cov Hmoob xwb hov. Vim kuv yog niag neeg hais lus
nchav nchav ces LX ib txwm yeej tsis hwm kuv hais kiag li, yog li kuv
yuav tsis hais, tab sis cia nej mam hais.
phabej
2006-03-29 18:59:22 UTC
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Phooj ywg Born2beHmong,

Ntawm kuv mas koj tso siab tau lau. Tej zaum KM kuj tsis yog LX thiab
kuj tsis yog LX tus spokesperson li koj tiag tab sis nws hais nws cov
lus thooj li LX heev li es kuv thiaj lam ua txuj hais li xwb. Yeej yog
li koj hais lawm leej twg tuaj tham los nyias tham raws nyias siab xav
xwb tiag. Tab sis zoo li KM muab LX qhov rooj qhib tau dav zog lawm
tsam ces ho tsis zoo rau LX xwb.

Cia ua li koj hais zoo dua yom.
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Phabej-
txhob nyuabsiab txog tej no li koj tus ua tij tau ntxhov siab no li,
thiab KM tsi yog LX os, vim nws cov kev sau ntawv thiab lub lajlim kev
tham txawv LX ntau tshaj qhov ntau lawm nawb. nws txawm yuav nyob qhov
twg thiab li cas los tsi yog wb li teebmeem thiab concern, vim yus tsua
hais txoj kiag li yus kev pom thiab kev ncaj kev ncees xwb--if speaking
of the truth hurts, then i cannot help it.
kuv li kuv hos tsi xav li koj os, vim ib tug neeg no sibtxawv lawm nws
ib yam, tej tus kuj ntse, tej tug kuj ruam, tej tus kuj paub, tej tus
kuj tsi paub (all men are not the same and each of is having individual
uniqueness ability to think and comprehend). ces nyias tsuas hais tau
li nyias lub hlwb comprehend tau xwb. yog li KM yuav hais li cas rau
kuv los tsi muaj dabtsi li os. yog hais tias yus yog neeg ntse lawm,
luag ntxhi tagli thiab rov tham kiag duas xwb. tej lus no xwb txhob
muab coj los ua lub aws los yog lub mob nawb.
mam li tham duas nawb....LOL!
Born2beHmong....real Hmong_man!
Phabej wrote>>Born2beHmong, seb yog koj nyob ze LX thiab KM no ces pab hais rau nkawv
thiab os nawj, thaum puas tsuaj tuaj sais nws kuj tsis yog lwm leej twg
laiv, nws yog yus cov Hmoob xwb hov. Vim kuv yog niag neeg hais lus
nchav nchav ces LX ib txwm yeej tsis hwm kuv hais kiag li, yog li kuv
yuav tsis hais, tab sis cia nej mam hais.
phwvnyawm
2006-03-29 21:12:30 UTC
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Cov phooj ywg,

Nej leej twg paub pog Reb...no ces hais rau nws tias nws mag me nyuam
nab tom mob tsis heev,nws twb dhua ua me nyuam nab yuav luag tuag, me
nyuam nab thiaj lem-m tom tau ib khaug xwb.
Zaum no nws mus nrog Maum nab thiab Txiv nab laus lawv lawm kom nws
txhob zoo-oo siab tsam maum nab thiab txiv nab muab nws nqos nkeej no
nawb.
Hos Maum nab thiab Txiv nab los txhob ua txuj tsa-a maum npua dawb tw
ntxiab....tsam yus nqos tsis tau maum npua ces maum npuas hos dhuas
lwj,dhuas liam tuaj ces nej hos tuag pawg lug od....

Ua cas sawv daws yuav mus xav sib ntov ua luaj tsis txaj muag rau teb
chaws los cas.
Xejthim
2006-03-29 21:34:20 UTC
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Phwvnyawm,

Li no mas ib pab haj tseem zoo zoo siab luag ntxi tias tuag tsis tuag
zaum no muaj muaj plus ua nws tuag caws vos no nas. Yog li koj hais
lawm, xyov maum nab thiab txiv nab nkawd zoo siab vim yuav tau nqos
maum npua dawb los xyov yog maum npua dawb yuav tau zaub li lauj! Kab
tias nyias nyaj yuav pom nyias kis tau noj lawm, cia saib puas tom
thawj mas. Kuv xav yog tsis muaj maum npua dawb ntshaj heev heev no
ntshai txiv nab qa yuav qhuav tsis ntsib dab tsi kiag li tiam sis vim
muaj maum npua dawb ntshaj ntshaj thiab tsaug taw rau ces txiv nab
thiaj li rov tau zoo noj lawm. Twb hnov cov nom them nyiaj sib sib ntxi
tias lub week yuav los no mas yuav hnov xov zoo tshwm rau yav qaum teb
no ne. Ho tus puav nom mas sim siv pib nyuaj siab lawm, tsis paub tias
cas ib co ho zoo siab ua luaj ib co ho ua ntsej muag ntsoos ntsuav tas
mus li xwb, nug los kuj tsis kam qhia qhov teeb meem kiag. Xyov yog li
cas li lawm lauj....ntshai cov zoo siab ntawd raug nce xaab lawm ho cov
ntsoos ntsoos ntawd raug muab lawv tus nom txo lwm los li cas li lauj.
Cia lub week yuav los no saib peb cov snow puas yuav hnov xov zoo nawb.
TMC
2006-04-04 22:04:03 UTC
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Phwvnyawm thiab cov phoojywg,

Nej tham ntau ua luaj es sawv daws siab puas nqig thiab na? Thua Vang
muab daim post no coj mus posted rau tom Pebhmong.com. Cov neeg tuaj
nyeem mas coob tiag tiag li. Ntshe cov neeg uas tawm tsam Laura mas zoo
siab heev. Nej sim nyeem Thua Vang from Fact-Finding Commission daim
post hauv qab no saib, puas ntxim li nws zoo siab heev ma.

TMC

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:04 am


indigenous wrote:
Sad to say but now our smarty azz Hmong have messed with the tiger and
tiger will definitely bite.
I know a great deal about the reasons the Hmong from Laos decided to
group into the Petchaboun area but have my respect toward my Hmong and
didn't want to say anything.
Now I'll speak out since tigers are bitting now.

In the early 2004 the Hmong from Laos began crossing into Thailand. In
Petchaboun existed Chia Ger Yang who is closely associated with Laura
Xiong and got good relationship with some Thai authorities. Chia Ger
Yang and Moua Nhia Long were Laura and the HIHRW's backbone in
Thailand. The Hmong from Laos were influenced and promised by Chia Ger
Yang and his associates to move into Petchaboun were they would be
provided housing and shelter rather than paying rent in Bangkok and
being pursue by Thai police. That's how the build up of Hmong refugees
flooded Petchaboun. In return, when the Freedom League political group,
under the leadership of Seng Xiong of Warren, MI, Zong Khang Yang of
St. Paul, MN and Dr. Lee Pao Yang of Sacramento, CA gain enough ground
they will launch an attack against the Lao government to establish a
Hmong Kingdom in Laos. The Hmong men from Laos were to exchange
services for the shelter Chia Ger Yang and Moua Nhia Long provided to
their families by joining with the Freedom League to attack Laos. Laura
plays a crucial role with the Freedom League but continously denied any
affiliation and uses the "non-partisan" claim to back herself up.

Unfortunately Moua Nhia Long passed away in the later part of 2004 in
Chiang Mai, leaving Chia Ger Yang as the only backbone for Laura. Chia
Ger Yang were on the spotlight once the investigation on the Hmong in
Petchaboun began in July 2005. Chia Ger Yang is now in hiding from
authority. The unoticed Hmong from Laos then are stranded in Petchaboun
and have nowhere to go. Laura Xiong then went to Petchaboun in
September 2005 with the invitation of Rebecca Sommer, tried to promote
herself as their rescuer, Laura encountered difficulties with the
majority of Hmong groups from Laos. Laura was unhappy and bashes some
Hmong Americans living in the State; accusing them for trying to set
her up and almost gotten herself kill in Thailand. Now the truth comes
out as Rebecca Sommer, an independent and neutral person realized the
TRUTH about Laura's agenda.

Truthly, Laura is a communist agent. At the public eyes, she claimed to
help the Hmong but behind closed doors, she have her own personal
agenda. Sad but many Hmong lives were lost because those of us who fled
communist but among our Hmong existed some smarty azz ones who are
living among us and truly stirring the pot up and getting our people in
trouble.

May God keep his eyes on our people and get rid of cruels and heartless
ones!

PEACE TO MY TRUE HMONG!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PajVuamZooHlub
PH Newbie


Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 16

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:04 am

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sad to say, but now the Hmong terrorists have messed up with the laws
and the law enforcement definitely will pub them behind bar.

I know a great deal about the reasons the hmong from Laos decided to
group into The Phetchabun area, but care so much about he Hmong
victims, so I must inform everyone.

NOw I will speak out since the law enforcement is taking this issue
seriously.

In the early 2004 the Hmong from Laos began crossing into Thailand
because of Vang Thai Noi and his gang's dirty political agenda. Vang
Thai Noi is the father of Toua Vang of Fact-Finding Commission. Toua
Vang's Father and his gang are in Phetchabun organizing and recruiting
refugees to team up with their terrorism organization. Since they lack
the ability to overthrow the Lao Government, they murder their own
people and suck their own blood.

By the way, Rebecca Sommer is in jail for assaulting a Hmong Human
Rights Advocate.
Post by phabej
Cov phooj ywg,
Nej leej twg paub pog Reb...no ces hais rau nws tias nws mag me nyuam
nab tom mob tsis heev,nws twb dhua ua me nyuam nab yuav luag tuag, me
nyuam nab thiaj lem-m tom tau ib khaug xwb.
Zaum no nws mus nrog Maum nab thiab Txiv nab laus lawv lawm kom nws
txhob zoo-oo siab tsam maum nab thiab txiv nab muab nws nqos nkeej no
nawb.
Hos Maum nab thiab Txiv nab los txhob ua txuj tsa-a maum npua dawb tw
ntxiab....tsam yus nqos tsis tau maum npua ces maum npuas hos dhuas
lwj,dhuas liam tuaj ces nej hos tuag pawg lug od....
Ua cas sawv daws yuav mus xav sib ntov ua luaj tsis txaj muag rau teb
chaws los cas.
TMC
2006-04-04 22:21:23 UTC
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Luag tej laus ib txwm hais tias, thaum yus hnav tau ib ce ris tsho cob
xub, nco ntsoov zip yus txoj swb ris. Puas yog Thua Vang tsis nco qab
swb nws txoj swb ris lawm mas?

TMC
Post by TMC
Phwvnyawm thiab cov phoojywg,
Nej tham ntau ua luaj es sawv daws siab puas nqig thiab na? Thua Vang
muab daim post no coj mus posted rau tom Pebhmong.com. Cov neeg tuaj
nyeem mas coob tiag tiag li. Ntshe cov neeg uas tawm tsam Laura mas zoo
siab heev. Nej sim nyeem Thua Vang from Fact-Finding Commission daim
post hauv qab no saib, puas ntxim li nws zoo siab heev ma.
TMC
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:04 am
Sad to say but now our smarty azz Hmong have messed with the tiger and
tiger will definitely bite.
I know a great deal about the reasons the Hmong from Laos decided to
group into the Petchaboun area but have my respect toward my Hmong and
didn't want to say anything.
Now I'll speak out since tigers are bitting now.
In the early 2004 the Hmong from Laos began crossing into Thailand. In
Petchaboun existed Chia Ger Yang who is closely associated with Laura
Xiong and got good relationship with some Thai authorities. Chia Ger
Yang and Moua Nhia Long were Laura and the HIHRW's backbone in
Thailand. The Hmong from Laos were influenced and promised by Chia Ger
Yang and his associates to move into Petchaboun were they would be
provided housing and shelter rather than paying rent in Bangkok and
being pursue by Thai police. That's how the build up of Hmong refugees
flooded Petchaboun. In return, when the Freedom League political group,
under the leadership of Seng Xiong of Warren, MI, Zong Khang Yang of
St. Paul, MN and Dr. Lee Pao Yang of Sacramento, CA gain enough ground
they will launch an attack against the Lao government to establish a
Hmong Kingdom in Laos. The Hmong men from Laos were to exchange
services for the shelter Chia Ger Yang and Moua Nhia Long provided to
their families by joining with the Freedom League to attack Laos. Laura
plays a crucial role with the Freedom League but continously denied any
affiliation and uses the "non-partisan" claim to back herself up.
Unfortunately Moua Nhia Long passed away in the later part of 2004 in
Chiang Mai, leaving Chia Ger Yang as the only backbone for Laura. Chia
Ger Yang were on the spotlight once the investigation on the Hmong in
Petchaboun began in July 2005. Chia Ger Yang is now in hiding from
authority. The unoticed Hmong from Laos then are stranded in Petchaboun
and have nowhere to go. Laura Xiong then went to Petchaboun in
September 2005 with the invitation of Rebecca Sommer, tried to promote
herself as their rescuer, Laura encountered difficulties with the
majority of Hmong groups from Laos. Laura was unhappy and bashes some
Hmong Americans living in the State; accusing them for trying to set
her up and almost gotten herself kill in Thailand. Now the truth comes
out as Rebecca Sommer, an independent and neutral person realized the
TRUTH about Laura's agenda.
Truthly, Laura is a communist agent. At the public eyes, she claimed to
help the Hmong but behind closed doors, she have her own personal
agenda. Sad but many Hmong lives were lost because those of us who fled
communist but among our Hmong existed some smarty azz ones who are
living among us and truly stirring the pot up and getting our people in
trouble.
May God keep his eyes on our people and get rid of cruels and heartless
ones!
PEACE TO MY TRUE HMONG!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PajVuamZooHlub
PH Newbie
Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 16
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:04 am
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sad to say, but now the Hmong terrorists have messed up with the laws
and the law enforcement definitely will pub them behind bar.
I know a great deal about the reasons the hmong from Laos decided to
group into The Phetchabun area, but care so much about he Hmong
victims, so I must inform everyone.
NOw I will speak out since the law enforcement is taking this issue
seriously.
In the early 2004 the Hmong from Laos began crossing into Thailand
because of Vang Thai Noi and his gang's dirty political agenda. Vang
Thai Noi is the father of Toua Vang of Fact-Finding Commission. Toua
Vang's Father and his gang are in Phetchabun organizing and recruiting
refugees to team up with their terrorism organization. Since they lack
the ability to overthrow the Lao Government, they murder their own
people and suck their own blood.
By the way, Rebecca Sommer is in jail for assaulting a Hmong Human
Rights Advocate.
Post by phabej
Cov phooj ywg,
Nej leej twg paub pog Reb...no ces hais rau nws tias nws mag me nyuam
nab tom mob tsis heev,nws twb dhua ua me nyuam nab yuav luag tuag, me
nyuam nab thiaj lem-m tom tau ib khaug xwb.
Zaum no nws mus nrog Maum nab thiab Txiv nab laus lawv lawm kom nws
txhob zoo-oo siab tsam maum nab thiab txiv nab muab nws nqos nkeej no
nawb.
Hos Maum nab thiab Txiv nab los txhob ua txuj tsa-a maum npua dawb tw
ntxiab....tsam yus nqos tsis tau maum npua ces maum npuas hos dhuas
lwj,dhuas liam tuaj ces nej hos tuag pawg lug od....
Ua cas sawv daws yuav mus xav sib ntov ua luaj tsis txaj muag rau teb
chaws los cas.
TMC
2006-04-04 23:17:01 UTC
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Raw Message
The unoticed Hmong from Laos then are stranded in Petchaboun
Post by TMC
and have nowhere to go. Laura Xiong then went to Petchaboun in
September 2005 with the invitation of Rebecca Sommer, tried to promote
herself as their rescuer, Laura encountered difficulties with the
majority of Hmong groups from Laos. Laura was unhappy and bashes some
Hmong Americans living in the State; accusing them for trying to set
her up and almost gotten herself kill in Thailand. Now the truth comes
out as Rebecca Sommer, an independent and neutral person realized the
TRUTH about Laura's agenda.
This statement reveals the truth about Thua and his new friend, Rebecca
Sommer. Rebecca Sommer was in Jail for assaulting Laura, but she told
Thua that Laura was in jail. Laura paid everyithing for Rebecca Sommers
trip, but she told Thua that the money came out of her own pocket.
Laura invited Rebecca Sommer to go with her, plus all expense paid by
HIHRW, but Rebeccas Sommer told Thua the other way around. Rebecca
reported to the FBI on what happened to Laura in Thailand, but she lied
to Thua that nothing had ever happened. The films and hard-drive belong
to Laura, but Rebecca lied to Thua that it belong to her. Laura
completed the project without Rebecca Sommer, but she told Thua that
Laura was too lazy and nothing has been done. The UN and US DOS don't
even know who Rebecca Sommer was, but she told Thua that they tossed
Laura's project into the trash can. Obviously, Thua and his associates
are too gullible and too naive.

Rebecca Sommer is a neutral person and do does Thua. They should be the
perfect team mate, I guess. Lus nplog hais tias"tok mum kas, peng kas,
tok mum heng, peng heng".

Have a good day and see you in 5 weeks.

TMC
Post by TMC
Truthly, Laura is a communist agent. At the public eyes, she claimed to
help the Hmong but behind closed doors, she have her own personal
agenda. Sad but many Hmong lives were lost because those of us who fled
communist but among our Hmong existed some smarty azz ones who are
living among us and truly stirring the pot up and getting our people in
trouble.
May God keep his eyes on our people and get rid of cruels and heartless
ones!
PEACE TO MY TRUE HMONG!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PajVuamZooHlub
PH Newbie
Joined: 13 Apr 2005
Posts: 16
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:04 am
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sad to say, but now the Hmong terrorists have messed up with the laws
and the law enforcement definitely will pub them behind bar.
I know a great deal about the reasons the hmong from Laos decided to
group into The Phetchabun area, but care so much about he Hmong
victims, so I must inform everyone.
NOw I will speak out since the law enforcement is taking this issue
seriously.
In the early 2004 the Hmong from Laos began crossing into Thailand
because of Vang Thai Noi and his gang's dirty political agenda. Vang
Thai Noi is the father of Toua Vang of Fact-Finding Commission. Toua
Vang's Father and his gang are in Phetchabun organizing and recruiting
refugees to team up with their terrorism organization. Since they lack
the ability to overthrow the Lao Government, they murder their own
people and suck their own blood.
By the way, Rebecca Sommer is in jail for assaulting a Hmong Human
Rights Advocate.
Post by phabej
Cov phooj ywg,
Nej leej twg paub pog Reb...no ces hais rau nws tias nws mag me nyuam
nab tom mob tsis heev,nws twb dhua ua me nyuam nab yuav luag tuag, me
nyuam nab thiaj lem-m tom tau ib khaug xwb.
Zaum no nws mus nrog Maum nab thiab Txiv nab laus lawv lawm kom nws
txhob zoo-oo siab tsam maum nab thiab txiv nab muab nws nqos nkeej no
nawb.
Hos Maum nab thiab Txiv nab los txhob ua txuj tsa-a maum npua dawb tw
ntxiab....tsam yus nqos tsis tau maum npua ces maum npuas hos dhuas
lwj,dhuas liam tuaj ces nej hos tuag pawg lug od....
Ua cas sawv daws yuav mus xav sib ntov ua luaj tsis txaj muag rau teb
chaws los cas.
TMC
2006-04-04 23:39:06 UTC
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Raw Message
The unoticed Hmong from Laos then are stranded in Petchaboun
Post by TMC
and have nowhere to go. Laura Xiong then went to Petchaboun in
September 2005 with the invitation of Rebecca Sommer, tried to promote
herself as their rescuer, Laura encountered difficulties with the
majority of Hmong groups from Laos. Laura was unhappy and bashes some
Hmong Americans living in the State; accusing them for trying to set
her up and almost gotten herself kill in Thailand. Now the truth comes
out as Rebecca Sommer, an independent and neutral person realized the
TRUTH about Laura's agenda.
This statement reveals the truth about Thua and his new friend, Rebecca

Sommer. Rebecca Sommer was in Jail for assaulting Laura, but she told
Thua that Laura was in jail. Laura paid everything for Rebecca Sommers
trip, but she told Thua that the money came out of her own pocket.
Laura invited Rebecca Sommer to go with her, plus all expense paid by
HIHRW, but Rebeccas Sommer told Thua the other way around. Rebecca
reported to the FBI on what happened to Laura in Thailand, but she lied

to Thua that nothing had ever happened. The films and hard-drive belong

to Laura, but Rebecca lied to Thua that it belong to her. Laura
completed the project without Rebecca Sommer's help, but she told
Thua that
Laura was too lazy and nothing has been done. The UN and US DOS don't
even know who Rebecca Sommer was, but she told Thua that they tossed
Laura's project into the trash can. Obviously, Thua and his associates
are too gullible and too naive.

What Thua wrote about Laura's being associated with Moua Nhialong and
Chia Ger's political affiliation is nothing more than what Rebecca
Sommer's slanderous statements against Laura.

Rebecca Sommer is a neutral person and do does Thua. They should be a
perfect team mate, I guess. Lus nplog hais tias"tok mum kas, peng kas,
tok mum heng, peng heng".


Have a good day and see you in 5 weeks.


TMC
Hmong-Lao
2006-04-05 13:53:37 UTC
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TMC,
Zoo siab uas rov tau pom koj tuaj tshaj moo rau peb. Txawm li cas los
ua lub siab loj nawb, koj cov neeg txhawb koj yeej tseem nyob rawv
ntawm koj ib sab. Tsuav yog koj ua raws nkaus li qhov uas koj hais tias
koj yuav ua los pab Hmoob xwb ces peb yeej txhawb koj xwb. Hos lwm tus
uas tawm tsam koj ntawd, txawm lawv yuav hais li cas los peb yeej tsis
tau ntseeg until lawv muab tau qhov prove rau peb saib kiag.

Cov lus nyob rau daim post saum toj no hais mus hais los xwb es peb
yuav ua li cas ntseeg tau. Nws twb hais tias koj koom nrog pab pawg uas
yuav ntxeev teb chaws Nplog los ua teb chaws Hmoob no es hais mus hais
los ho hais tias koj yog Nplog Liab tus agent thiab no. Yog hais li no
mas me nyuam yaus los twb tsis ntseeg. Txhob poob siab!

Kuv rov muab ib lub tswv yim ntxiv rau koj, yog koj xav ua tus neeg
dawb huv, tus neeg zoo, tus uas pej xeem sawv daws poog, txhawb thiab
hwm, koj yuav tsum ua lub siab ntev, ntev tas los ntev thiab, yuav tsum
tiv thaiv koj tus kheej xwb, tsis txhob mus tshum leej twg li nawb,
even koj tus yeeb ncuab. Li no mas koj teg dej num pab cov Hmoob raug
tsim txom thiaj tiav nawb.

Kuv thiab peb coob tus yuav txhawb tus neeg uas ua txhua yam saum qaum
rooj li koj,

HL
dejia
2006-04-09 11:21:19 UTC
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I believe that Rebecca Sommers is walking on very thin line. She
survives by misleading and maneuvering around people to get what she
wants and throws tantrums when she doesn't get what she wants. I
totally agree with cov lus about tus txiv nab. Even though everyone
has their differences, peb tseem yog Hmoob es tsi xav kom luag lawm tus
Hmoob raug betrayal tib yam.

For those who truly, truly know Laura Xiong, as I do, can honestly say
that she has given so much of her time, energy, and money to help her
people and those less fortunate than her. Many times, there are people
who have a misconception or misunderstanding simply because the
information out there is just so vast and vague. Surely Laura has
enough evidence and proof to support her side of the story. Laura is
half of Rebecca's size so how in the world would she try to hit
Rebecca or knowingly promote any type of violence???? I know Laura
well enough to say that she is not violent in nature. Laura was in no
position to cause any uproar because she was on time constraint to help
out the HDD and rather, needed to be patient with Rebecca in order to
complete the project that she had been working so hard on for many
months. Kawg nws tsev neeg hu phone mus nrog nws tham los twb tsis zoo
tham tshaj ~1 minute. Laura never wanted to make this a huge matter
and she tried to resolve with this issue on her own--because it WAS a
personal issue and HDD was still going to go through. However, with
the person that Rebecca is, she is simply trying to make even for going
to jail for hitting Laura, which I find very childish and
irresponsible. But with anything, you will have a leak and if the
topic is significant, people and media will try to analyze it on their
own with the information that they are given. Typical and normal, but
I hope with an open mind.

As I've gotten older, I'm beginning to see how much struggle that
many of us are going through personally. With that personal issue(s),
we sometimes find outlets to substitute for our anger, struggles,
disappointments, and pride. Some deal with it better than others.

Laura Xiong is not trying to take over or compete with the Hmong's
political world, she is only trying help everyone else who cares to
mend a broken passage among the Hmong. So if the political figures
want to play politics or have a power struggle, please go somewhere
else; you are only hitting a brick wall. Whatever your game plans are,
please let Laura do the right thing for our Hmong people who needs her
help and play your games around the laws. Her passion simply lies in
helping our people in the best way that she can.


Mr. Anti,

I knew you, and I also know that you've probably have been
disappointed many times in your life. I wish you wouldn't be so
pessimistic. Life is too short to build your world around hate. The
vulgar ways you express yourself in here and elsewhere are only
temporary satisfaction to relieve your anger and boost up your
self-esteem. You go out into the unkind world and carry all those hate
home just to create more hate for yourself in the unkind virtual world.
Go workout or do something that you really enjoy, seriously, just do
it. People in the real world will see the person that you are no
matter how well you try to hide it-so practice more often of being
kind.
Anti
2006-03-27 22:46:15 UTC
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You all are stupid,

Kuv twb hais tias, txhob lam tau lam ua tej yam tsis zoo rau Hmoob tsam
npam ces yog li tej no ntag los mas. Lam tau lam iab liam tias vp lawv
ntiav neeg tua yus, tsis muaj proof ces npam ces zoo li no ntag. Yog
txhob liam vp lawv li ntawv ces tej teeb meem no yeej tsis lam muaj li
los mas.

mus nyob luag tsev xwb, thaum luag ntiagkom yus tawm lawm ces kawg tawm
xwb, tseem muaj cai foob luag li ub li no thiab. tej no ces hog nrhiav
kev tuag xwb los mas.

Yog li laura xiong stupid, raug investigate by the FBI thiab lov. Zaum
no ces ntse kawg tsis poob ntsej muag los ntse yuav poob nyiaj xwb li
lau.

Lwm zaus txhob lam tau lam liam neeg lawm tsam npam nqhov loj tsaj no
thiab nawb.

you all are stupid,
Amen
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-27 23:20:04 UTC
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Post by Anti
You all are stupid,
Kuv twb hais tias, txhob lam tau lam ua tej yam tsis zoo rau Hmoob tsam
npam ces yog li tej no ntag los mas. Lam tau lam iab liam tias vp lawv
ntiav neeg tua yus, tsis muaj proof ces npam ces zoo li no ntag. Yog
txhob liam vp lawv li ntawv ces tej teeb meem no yeej tsis lam muaj li
los mas.
Txhob rawm hais li koj ma. Twb yog npam lwm tus es luag nyob luag los
cia li yuav cev ncej qab rau luag nqus ntshav. Txog thaum kawg tseem
yuav poob ntsej muag thiab. Yog txhob dag dag thiab txhob tsuas pom
yuav muab tus ub tus no tua, ces sawv daws twb tsis raug tej nyuag
teebmeem no los ma.
Post by Anti
mus nyob luag tsev xwb, thaum luag ntiagkom yus tawm lawm ces kawg tawm
xwb, tseem muaj cai foob luag li ub li no thiab. tej no ces hog nrhiav
kev tuag xwb los mas.
Txhob rawm hais li koj. Tus neeg tuav txoj cai tsis lam give up yoojyim
thaum nws tau raus tes rau ib yam project lawm.
Post by Anti
Yog li laura xiong stupid, raug investigate by the FBI thiab lov. Zaum
no ces ntse kawg tsis poob ntsej muag los ntse yuav poob nyiaj xwb li
lau.
Don't bring the FBI issue for discussion. It is the law and no one
should play with it. You can go to jail for messing up with the law,
especially with the FBI, do you know that? If Ms. Rebecca Sommer
continues to lie about the FBI report, she knows what can happen.
Post by Anti
Lwm zaus txhob lam tau lam liam neeg lawm tsam npam nqhov loj tsaj no
thiab nawb.
Yuav tau txhob lam tau lam hawv yuav tua lwm tus tsam ho npam tsis zoo
li yav tag los lawm nawv.
Post by Anti
you all are stupid,
Amen
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
emcg
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what makes you so sure Rebecca is lying? I don't think so.... Someone
else might be pulling the wool over your eyes.
TswvYim
2006-03-28 00:09:11 UTC
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Uas cas tsis hnov muaj ibtug ROVTAWM hauv nos tham taus ib txoj niag hauv
kev raus peb cov niam txiv taug lis nes. Tsuas pom sib ceg, sib cav thiab
tus quaj qaws lis cas los muaj tag lis xwb. Yaiv, yaiv, peb hmoob tub
ROVTAWM hauv SCH nos txawm yuav tiav kam li nos ntag lod. Kuv sim zim
hniav zog nyooj qaws saib puas yuav muaj tus txawj nraus kub. Peb cov
thawj Hmoob uas ntej es raug luag lawm haiv neeg muab ntov tas los vim peb
mas kestes kestaws heev kawg tiamsis hnriav kev khiav xwb tiaj zoo lis nos
laus.
Born2beHmong
2006-03-28 05:15:08 UTC
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Tswvyim aws--

luag cov neeg ntse thiab paub, luag tsi lam tau lam tsau lub ncauj los
hais thiab los lees nawb, tus phoojywg!

B2BH
Tswvyim wrote>>>Uas cas tsis hnov muaj ibtug ROVTAWM hauv nos tham taus ib txoj niag hauv
kev raus peb cov niam txiv taug lis nes. Tsuas pom sib ceg, sib cav
thiab
tus quaj qaws lis cas los muaj tag lis xwb. Yaiv, yaiv, peb hmoob tub
ROVTAWM hauv SCH nos txawm yuav tiav kam li nos ntag lod. Kuv sim zim
hniav zog nyooj qaws saib puas yuav muaj tus txawj nraus kub. Peb cov
thawj Hmoob uas ntej es raug luag lawm haiv neeg muab ntov tas los vim
peb
mas kestes kestaws heev kawg tiamsis hnriav kev khiav xwb tiaj zoo lis
nos
laus.
Anti
2006-03-28 04:32:08 UTC
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Cov ntsej muag ruam,

Ruam li nej, tos luag lwm haiv neeg, cia luag ua tus loj, tus caij tsuj
nej xwb ces txog thaum kawg ces yeej ib txwm plam, tsis tau noj, mus
tsis txog txoj kev npau suav. Nej cov ntsej muag ruam uas pheej mus
thawj luag chaw tso quav xwb ces txog thaum kawg yeej zoo li no.

yd, vp, thiab lwm pab yeej thawj luag chaw tso quav, muab luag ua tus
loj xwb peb hmoob thiaj li raug luag caij tsuj thiab muab luag tsa ua
tus loj los khoo yus xwb ces thiaj li tsis tau lub neej zoo ua.

Qhov teeb meem no kuv xav mas yeej yog tim laura, nws ua tsis ncaj txog
thaum kawg luag cov tawv dawb li no thiaj li muab nws veg, ces nws ho
chim rau luag, ces ua ntuj liab teb ntsuag ces thiaj li muaj tej teeb
meem no.

Laura xiong yog ib tug poj ruam uas nyiam cuab ntse, ua smartass heev
thiaj li zoo li no. Poj niam ruam ces tswv yim me me xwb yeej raug neeg
dag yooj yim, tseem raug nplog liab dag thiab nplog tus amb. dag xwb
los twb zoo siab lawm. Ruam li nej ces cia kom txom nyem kom txaus
thiaj lipaub ua zoo rau hmoob. Pheej ua phem rau hmoob es ua zoo rau
luag lwm haiv neeg xwb ces cia kom ntsav muag los thiaj li paub.

You all are stupid,
Amen
Zoo
2006-03-28 18:06:35 UTC
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That is prety damaging piece of note to Laur. The story is incredible I
wonder how true it is. Laura is sometime behave oddly, however, unsure
she would go that far. Would be nice if Ms. Summer is available to
answer some questions.
phabej
2006-03-28 18:16:11 UTC
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Phooj ywg Zoo,

I agree with you. Although, I think they both should answer all the
questions in regarding of this matter if they are true human rights
activists. Or else they are doomed to their actions.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 18:37:40 UTC
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Tsis tas li ntawd, raw li Laura hais, nws twb tsis muab tus pog Rebecca
ntawd lub qe coj los nthuav tawm hlo li. Laura twb raug ntaus hnub tim
17, January 2006 lawm, tabsi nws tseem rau rau saib los ua nws qhov
project tiav tibsi, thiab coj mus rau UN and US DOS rau hnub tim 24
Feb 2006. Nws yeej tsis hais txog tus pog ntawd li. Tabsi thaum tus pog
ntawd pom hais tias nws tsis pab los Laura ua tau Laura lawm, ces tus
pog ntawd mam qw ua ntuj liab teb ntsuab tuaj xwb. YOg li Laura thiaj
nyob twjywm until nws tuaj muab Laura Xiong rhuav rau pem Appleton
thaum lub 3-14-06 no. Rebecca Sommer has done a lot of damage to both
sides. Laura mas txawm damage los tsuas yog a short term xwb, tabsi tus
pog Rebecca Sommer sab mas yuav damage permanently. Txawm li ntawd los
tim nws txoj kev limhiam ne.
Post by phabej
Phooj ywg Zoo,
I agree with you. Although, I think they both should answer all the
questions in regarding of this matter if they are true human rights
activists. Or else they are doomed to their actions.
Xejthim
2006-03-28 20:01:40 UTC
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***@yahoo.com wrote:

Laura twb raug ntaus hnub tim
Post by k***@yahoo.com
17, January 2006 lawm,
Koj tuaj hais rau peb hauv no li ntawd es Laura tau tso cai rau koj
tuaj piav txhua yam happened between LX thiab niam pog Sommer lawm lov?
Kuv xav mas tsis tsim nyog koj yuav coj tej detail no tuaj piav rau
hauv no, unless KM is Laura or she had approved you tuaj tham txog qhov
incident no rau suav daws hauv no yog tsis li ntawd mas what you posted
in here even created a bigger damage to her reputation and identity
than Rebecca's letter. Why are you so anxious to publicly open every
detail you knew about the incident to the public? Did you just said,
this case is still going on trial? If it is true as said then you
better reconsider every thing you say.
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Rebecca Sommer has done a lot of damage to both
sides.
Not only Rebecca had done a damage, she may have started throwing the
fuel but I think the damage has been caused by people who is closed to
her and knew about the incident.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 20:26:07 UTC
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Xejthim, I do not have her permission to say it, but the damage has
been done by the people close to Rebecca. This email has been
circulated and posted all over the place. It is my concern that Laura's
side of the story must be told before the public can decide who is the
trouble maker. Laura works real hard to defend the Hmong and all at the
sudden, some one who she trusted the most turn around against her.
That is really sad. The truth must be told. I know that what was
written on that email is a political vendetta. It is a rumor spreadng
by Rebecca Sommer to defame Laura's reputation. If Laura would come out
to tell her side of the story, it would be more clear to the public.
Whoever posted this email on this forum would be responsible for any
damage to both parties, Laura and Rebecca. In this case, without Laura
telling her side of the story, eveyone would blame her for the prolem.
In fact, Laura is the victim.

Sommer is responsible for spreading rumor around the Hmong community.
She even traveled to the Hmong community to promote such rumors.

KM
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Laura twb raug ntaus hnub tim
Post by k***@yahoo.com
17, January 2006 lawm,
Koj tuaj hais rau peb hauv no li ntawd es Laura tau tso cai rau koj
tuaj piav txhua yam happened between LX thiab niam pog Sommer lawm lov?
Kuv xav mas tsis tsim nyog koj yuav coj tej detail no tuaj piav rau
hauv no, unless KM is Laura or she had approved you tuaj tham txog qhov
incident no rau suav daws hauv no yog tsis li ntawd mas what you posted
in here even created a bigger damage to her reputation and identity
than Rebecca's letter. Why are you so anxious to publicly open every
detail you knew about the incident to the public? Did you just said,
this case is still going on trial? If it is true as said then you
better reconsider every thing you say.
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Rebecca Sommer has done a lot of damage to both
sides.
Not only Rebecca had done a damage, she may have started throwing the
fuel but I think the damage has been caused by people who is closed to
her and knew about the incident.
Xejthim
2006-03-28 21:44:09 UTC
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KM,

The truth does not need to reveal in SCH but in the court of law. This
place is only for people to entertain so if you are so concern about
her image, you should only defend her rights without further details on
what really happened. Otherwise, her enemies will use the information
you exposed to twist the story to the worst, but that's only my
opinion.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 23:07:50 UTC
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Xejthim, you are absolutely right. I will not reveal anymore
information from now on. Thanks brother.
Post by Xejthim
KM,
The truth does not need to reveal in SCH but in the court of law. This
place is only for people to entertain so if you are so concern about
her image, you should only defend her rights without further details on
what really happened. Otherwise, her enemies will use the information
you exposed to twist the story to the worst, but that's only my
opinion.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 23:12:13 UTC
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I rest my case.


Kongmeng
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Xejthim, you are absolutely right. I will not reveal anymore
information from now on. Thanks brother.
Post by Xejthim
KM,
The truth does not need to reveal in SCH but in the court of law. This
place is only for people to entertain so if you are so concern about
her image, you should only defend her rights without further details on
what really happened. Otherwise, her enemies will use the information
you exposed to twist the story to the worst, but that's only my
opinion.
Xejthim
2006-03-28 21:49:02 UTC
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Oh, one more thing...regardless of you reveal the truth in SCH, her
enemy won't buy it; they will only use it against her.
NVision
2006-03-29 03:59:19 UTC
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Don't mixp up Human rights with politic, otherwise you will be the
losers anyway.

NVision
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Laura twb raug ntaus hnub tim
Post by k***@yahoo.com
17, January 2006 lawm,
Koj tuaj hais rau peb hauv no li ntawd es Laura tau tso cai rau koj
tuaj piav txhua yam happened between LX thiab niam pog Sommer lawm lov?
Kuv xav mas tsis tsim nyog koj yuav coj tej detail no tuaj piav rau
hauv no, unless KM is Laura or she had approved you tuaj tham txog qhov
incident no rau suav daws hauv no yog tsis li ntawd mas what you posted
in here even created a bigger damage to her reputation and identity
than Rebecca's letter. Why are you so anxious to publicly open every
detail you knew about the incident to the public? Did you just said,
this case is still going on trial? If it is true as said then you
better reconsider every thing you say.
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Rebecca Sommer has done a lot of damage to both
sides.
Not only Rebecca had done a damage, she may have started throwing the
fuel but I think the damage has been caused by people who is closed to
her and knew about the incident.
Anti
2006-03-28 22:13:01 UTC
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kongmeng xiong stupid,

rebecca ntaus laura, vim li cas nws ho ntau laura ma? Nyob nyob es nws
cia li ntaus laura los yog laura thiab nws muaj argument ma?

Kuv xav mas laura xiong thiab rebecca sommer nkawv sib txeeb hmoob dej
dawb cov pob txha cua xwb, nws thiaj li muab laura xyuas xwb. Yog ruam
li laura ces txawm mus txog twg los yeej muaj yeeb ncuab, vim nws lub
siab phem lim hiam heev li. Nws khav teeb qhov nws ntse li koj,
kongmeng stupid thiab ntag. Txhob xav tias rebecca ruam ruam es nej
yuav txhias tau nws noj nws haus ua nej qhev mog, nej tshuas dag tau
hmoob xwb, nej tsis lam dag tau cov daj tawv no yooj yim, thaum lawv
chim lawm lawv yuav tsis tseg nej kiag.

you are stupid,
amen
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 22:55:03 UTC
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Post by Anti
kongmeng xiong stupid,
rebecca ntaus laura, vim li cas nws ho ntau laura ma? Nyob nyob es nws
cia li ntaus laura los yog laura thiab nws muaj argument ma?
Tos lwm hnub nkawv mus hais plaub tag tso peb mam caw Laura tuaj tham
thiaj meej. Rau qhov kuv hnov nws tham tham tag xwb, nco tsis meej nas.
tabsi zoo li hais tias tus Pog Rebecca yuav muab cov film ntawd los ua
tau kom laura muab coj los muag rau Hmoob ces Laura tsis kam. Laura
hais tias qhov project no tsi yog yuav coj los ua lag ua luam. ces Pog
Rebecca saib laura txwb tiag tiag ces nws thiaj nrhiav kev ua kom Laura
tawm es nws mam muag rau nws. Ces nws cia li cem thiab muab laura ntaus
xwb. Laura tsis tau nrog nws sib ntau rau qhov tus pog ntawd mas loj
saib heev li. raws li Laura hais rau peb mas qhov tus pog ntaus thiab
zawm laura caj dab mas yog nws threatened hais tias kom laura txhob
qhia thiab txhob ua rau nws tus roomate paub hais tias nws ntaus laura.
Nws ntaus Laura tag, nws tseem muab Laura nqa mus pov hauv tse dej
thiab kaw qhov rooj kom nws tus roomate txhob paub no na. Tus pog
Rebecca mas yuav tsis yog crazy tabsi nyuj nqis ntsev heev xwb.
Post by Anti
Kuv xav mas laura xiong thiab rebecca sommer nkawv sib txeeb hmoob dej
dawb cov pob txha cua xwb, nws thiaj li muab laura xyuas xwb.
Tejzaum yuav yog li koj hais nawb. Pog Rebecca yuav txeeb lawv cov duab
mus muag noj muag haus ces Laura txwv tsis pub ces ob tug thiaj muaj
teebmeem lino. Ces yog sib txeeb hmoob dej dawb los mas.
Post by Anti
Yog ruam
li laura ces txawm mus txog twg los yeej muaj yeeb ncuab, vim nws lub
siab phem lim hiam heev li. Nws khav teeb qhov nws ntse li koj,
kongmeng stupid thiab ntag.
Tus neeg hlub hmoob thiab yuav cawm hmoob tiag tiag li Laura ces yeej
muaj cov neeg nrhiav noj nrhiav haus ntxub los mas. Rau qhov cov neeg
nrhiav noj nrhiav haus siab phem coob tshaj lawm ne.
Post by Anti
xhob xav tias rebecca ruam ruam es nej
yuav txhias tau nws noj nws haus ua nej qhev mog,
Txawm yog nws ntse dhau heev lawm es nws thiaj tseem tuaj dag tau Lao
Human Rights thiab neohom mus koom nrog nws ntag lau. Laura mas tseem
coj tau nws mus tiv thaiv kev ploj kev tuag tim dd, hos xyov lubniag
Lao Human Rights thiab neohom lawv puas hnov nws pa tsw as.
Post by Anti
nej tshuas dag tau
hmoob xwb, nej tsis lam dag tau cov daj tawv no yooj yim, thaum lawv
chim lawm lawv yuav tsis tseg nej kiag.
Yog kawg. Tsuas yog txoj cai thiaj yuav khi tau lawv xwb nawb.
Post by Anti
you are stupid,
amen
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 18:25:47 UTC
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Zoo, tus neeg raug txim lawm ces yuav ua txhua yam los defame her
opponent's reputation. Cov lus nyob rau daim email saum no tsis muaj
tseeb. Yog hais tias tus pog ntawd muaj nyiaj thiab muaj asset ntau mas
Laura foob nws for damaging her reputation lawm. Tabsi tus pog Rebecca
ntawd yog ib tug neeg tuaj txawv tebchaws tuaj ua haujlwm xwb, nws ua
hnub noj hnub xwb, ces txawm foob tag los tsis ntxiv dabtsi., Tseem
nkim nyiaj thiab sijhawm xwb. Tus pog ntawd yeej dag thiab damage Laura
Xiong lub reputation loj heev, tabsi nej txhob rawm ntshai, tus neeg
dag, thaum kawg qhov tseeb yuav tawm tuaj. Kuv nrog Laura tham, nws
have great confidence about herself. Qhov tus pog Rebecca no ua li no
ces yog nws raug ntes kaw thiab poob ntsej muag lawm ces yua ua kom
Laura poob ntsej muag nrog nws xwb, tabsi Laura twb tsis txhaum thiab
daim ntawd tus pog Rebecca Sommer sau ntawd twb tsis muaj tseeb. Laura
muaj witnesses thiab evidence txaus lawm. Nws tus Lawyer los khov txaus
lawm. Txhob poob siab.

Km
Post by Zoo
That is prety damaging piece of note to Laur. The story is incredible I
wonder how true it is. Laura is sometime behave oddly, however, unsure
she would go that far. Would be nice if Ms. Summer is available to
answer some questions.
emcg
2006-04-18 20:38:47 UTC
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I imagine Rebecca would be happy to answer some questions. She is an
excellent filmmaker, and was doing this as a favor. She usually works
in Latin America, where she understands the languages. Her lack of
understanding of Hmong was a real problem for her, as she eventually
discovered that translations of statements for UNHCR were being --
mistranslated? falsified? -- apparently by Laura -- in such a way that
it would have been very bad for her indeed if she had turned them in to
UNHCR.

usa
2006-03-28 19:10:38 UTC
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Raw Message
It's too bad for Laura and Rebecca. It's hard to believe that good
friends can turn into enemies. Fighting the issue of Hmong refugees in
Thailand was not enough for them so they chose to fight one another
instead. Shall we bet on them?
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 19:46:35 UTC
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USA, when Laura stands up for the Hmong, she would fight against anyone
who have bad intention to make the Hmong victims suffered. Rebecca
Sommer promised Laura that she would make a good film for the Hmong
cause,so Laura agreed to pay for Rebecca's full expesnse. While they
were in DD, Rebecca made great promise to the Hmong people and Laura
that she would help Laura bring this issue to the highest level of
Government Decision makers. That was Laura's goal, so she believed in
Rebecca. Laura sacrifice her family, time, money and her job for this
project. She was willing to spend time with Rebecca in New York until
the project is complete.

When Laura set her mind in something, she wants to make it happen no
matter how hard it can be. Laura would do anything to make thing works,
but when things turn out ugly like this one, she has to walk on her own
way without waiting for Rebecca Sommer.

Yes, Rebecca Sommer has caused so much damage on both sides and that's
not very healthy to both of them. However, I believe that Laura's pain
will be healed soon, but Rebecca's criminal record will remain with her
for a long long time.

Laura's honesty and integrity will prevail evil.

KM
Post by usa
It's too bad for Laura and Rebecca. It's hard to believe that good
friends can turn into enemies. Fighting the issue of Hmong refugees in
Thailand was not enough for them so they chose to fight one another
instead. Shall we bet on them?
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
fajkhaum
2006-03-28 20:45:40 UTC
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Just want to share my opinions about this case.

My experience working with the Law Enforcement, the Federal and
Crimeminal Court, wheither Laura is guilty or not, the case depends
mostly on the court disposition.

The case is unknown to everyone of us. It depends on who press charges
against who?. But I assume Laura was the one who called the police on
Ms. Sommer. It can be the other way around. The judge would mostly look
at the evidences from the police and the documents file in court. If
Laura had bruises or marks on her body, Ms. Sommer will likely guilty
for her actions.

Wheither Neohome, Hmong 18x, or Lao Human Rights Council try to get
involve with the case, it won't help much either. The law won't favor
the outsiders. Unless they just want to paint each others' faces.

Ms. Sommer's appeareance in Wisconsin under the invitation of whoever
we don't care. Ms. Sommer has no rights to critisize Ms. Laura Xiong in
publics. The case is still pending in court. Ms. Laura can sue Ms.
Sommer for her inappropriate actions.

The films, the hard drive, and stole documents are another issue. But
the issue of who hit who will be judge accordingly.

Laura's response to this post will not help her much. She better stays
calm and let the judge presides over the case. After the case is over,
she can prove herself here.

Just my thought.

Faj
Post by k***@yahoo.com
USA, when Laura stands up for the Hmong, she would fight against anyone
who have bad intention to make the Hmong victims suffered. Rebecca
Sommer promised Laura that she would make a good film for the Hmong
cause,so Laura agreed to pay for Rebecca's full expesnse. While they
were in DD, Rebecca made great promise to the Hmong people and Laura
that she would help Laura bring this issue to the highest level of
Government Decision makers. That was Laura's goal, so she believed in
Rebecca. Laura sacrifice her family, time, money and her job for this
project. She was willing to spend time with Rebecca in New York until
the project is complete.
When Laura set her mind in something, she wants to make it happen no
matter how hard it can be. Laura would do anything to make thing works,
but when things turn out ugly like this one, she has to walk on her own
way without waiting for Rebecca Sommer.
Yes, Rebecca Sommer has caused so much damage on both sides and that's
not very healthy to both of them. However, I believe that Laura's pain
will be healed soon, but Rebecca's criminal record will remain with her
for a long long time.
Laura's honesty and integrity will prevail evil.
KM
Post by usa
It's too bad for Laura and Rebecca. It's hard to believe that good
friends can turn into enemies. Fighting the issue of Hmong refugees in
Thailand was not enough for them so they chose to fight one another
instead. Shall we bet on them?
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
Born2beHmong
2006-03-28 21:57:46 UTC
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Yawm Faj aws-

leej twg los yeej paub zoo li koj ua tij hais mas, tabsi yus ob leeg
twb yog human right watch lawm es yus tseem mus sibtxeeb tej me khoom
li no uas ua kiag kom tseem raug sib ntau thiab....yog li ntau nyob rau
leej twg lub vaj lub tsev, los yog ntau tom kev ned. tamtseeb li laud,
yog lawv cov director rau human right tseem sib ntau tau thiab no, seb
kuv yawm Faj nyob qhov twg, kuv yuav nqau nqw Baseball tuaj xyua kuv me
yawm Faj seb....hahhahah ***@Faj!

we were not just talking what is going about the case, as men of
knowledge and wisdom we look at the bigger picture of classifying
information about the legality of the works and their positions and
professionlism.

a man of doing thing the rights of the country and think about having a
hmong country, and think abou this tiny about the case....j/k! the
case is very tiny here, there is no concern at all because it is their
personals problem. but men of principle would look to the nature of its
creativity and acting as moral, ethical, integrity.....principles.

Faj, tso dag tau ib nyuag sab los txhob xav li cas os--tsi ua li ntawv
ces yuav tsi tsim thiab xav txog li.

Born2beHmong
fajkhaum
2006-03-28 20:45:43 UTC
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Just want to share my opinions about this case.

My experience working with the Law Enforcement, the Federal and
Crimeminal Court, wheither Laura is guilty or not, the case depends
mostly on the court disposition.

The case is unknown to everyone of us. It depends on who press charges
against who?. But I assume Laura was the one who called the police on
Ms. Sommer. It can be the other way around. The judge would mostly look
at the evidences from the police and the documents file in court. If
Laura had bruises or marks on her body, Ms. Sommer will likely guilty
for her actions.

Wheither Neohome, Hmong 18x, or Lao Human Rights Council try to get
involve with the case, it won't help much either. The law won't favor
the outsiders. Unless they just want to paint each others' faces.

Ms. Sommer's appeareance in Wisconsin under the invitation of whoever
we don't care. Ms. Sommer has no rights to critisize Ms. Laura Xiong in
publics. The case is still pending in court. Ms. Laura can sue Ms.
Sommer for her inappropriate actions.

The films, the hard drive, and stole documents are another issue. But
the issue of who hit who will be judge accordingly.

Laura's response to this post will not help her much. She better stays
calm and let the judge presides over the case. After the case is over,
she can prove herself here.

Just my thought.

Faj
Post by k***@yahoo.com
USA, when Laura stands up for the Hmong, she would fight against anyone
who have bad intention to make the Hmong victims suffered. Rebecca
Sommer promised Laura that she would make a good film for the Hmong
cause,so Laura agreed to pay for Rebecca's full expesnse. While they
were in DD, Rebecca made great promise to the Hmong people and Laura
that she would help Laura bring this issue to the highest level of
Government Decision makers. That was Laura's goal, so she believed in
Rebecca. Laura sacrifice her family, time, money and her job for this
project. She was willing to spend time with Rebecca in New York until
the project is complete.
When Laura set her mind in something, she wants to make it happen no
matter how hard it can be. Laura would do anything to make thing works,
but when things turn out ugly like this one, she has to walk on her own
way without waiting for Rebecca Sommer.
Yes, Rebecca Sommer has caused so much damage on both sides and that's
not very healthy to both of them. However, I believe that Laura's pain
will be healed soon, but Rebecca's criminal record will remain with her
for a long long time.
Laura's honesty and integrity will prevail evil.
KM
Post by usa
It's too bad for Laura and Rebecca. It's hard to believe that good
friends can turn into enemies. Fighting the issue of Hmong refugees in
Thailand was not enough for them so they chose to fight one another
instead. Shall we bet on them?
Post by i***@hotmail.com
Kuv pom cov sab lus no ntawm pebhmong.com yog li sawvdaws nrog twm
thiab muab tshawb fawb thiab seb qhov thiaj thiaj li yog qhov tseeb
tiag.
Ua tsaug!
From: Rebecca Sommer
Date: March 4, 2006 1:45:02 PM EST
Dear Mr Bon Xiong.
I expected that you would call or e-mail to ask me directly.
I was not send by your organization, I went as an independent
individual, and as a film maker and director, to create an awareness
raising film to be edited and finalized in Brazil.
Your Organization offered to pay half of my airfare, among other minor
expenses-? which you have not reimbursed me as of yet.
I offered that your organization can use my final Film for your
organizations fundraising purposes, and for no pay.
I am not sure if you are aware, what a huge present I offered to you.
Further, I went as an independent? human rights advocate, as a
non-Hmong person, interested and caring enough - to spend over 3 month,
by the way also for no pay, and not send by you but decided by me as a
free person to do so, in order to help resolve the problem of the Hmong
refugees, which had to this day no official pre-screening by the UNHCR
to evaluate "if they could receive refugee status".
I have spoken to you on many occasions on the phone, while Laura was my
invited guest for over a month at my home, while I was writing and
drafting the Summary of Claims of the interviewed Refugees, background
papers , history , conduct of work, and? List of persons (civilians
with well-founded fear to be persecuted),? to be finally submitted to
the relevant governments, UN agencies and NGO's.
I myself informed you? about my disbelieve, that Laura and your
organization has not prepared any translations or documents(Summary of
Claims/List etc)? to the United Nations to truly help the refugees,
even so I volunteered and had drafted my Semi Final documents in
October still in Thailand,? and after 1 1/2 month when I came back from
my continued film trip Asia(helping other Indigenous causes), not one
translation or finalization of my drafted work was continued by neither
your Organization or Laura. I am saying 1 1/2 month = while this work
was needed to be done.
I informed you on the phone, that I was greatly saddened to have to sit
and volunteer for weeks on documents which your organization/ Laura was
supposed to do, as I went to the camp in oder to support the cause, to
conduct a capacity building training for the refugees (translated by
Laura), but mainly to create as a self employed film-maker my?
awareness raising FILM to support the Hmong plight, which you was
offered to use, again all for no pay.
Instead of working fully on my film, I? instead organized volunteers,
spoke on US Hmong radio stations asking for help with translations, and
did everything on a 16 hour work day's? to create and write the urgent
needed documents to the UNHCR, as that was the most important action to
HELP resolve the refugee problem, instead of TALKING.?? With Laura as
my invited guest and former friend, at my home, as she claimed to need
a place to hide, as she claimed to be in danger to be murdered by some
Hmong leaders.( their name is known to you, as it was public announced
via Hmong radio by herself).
She was supposed to fully translate the "Summary of Claims" written by
the refugees after receiving my training,? and my filmed interviews,
which I wanted to include into the documents to the UNHCR, to built a
strong and powerful documentation? which would resolve the
question"refugee status".
While working on the documents to be handed to UNHCR etc, I realized
that I was greatly miss-informed about our Hmong focus groups,
including translations left out essential information-I informed you on
the phone in? december 25th, and January 4th.
I remind, I do not speak Hmong, and I had full trust in Laura, as a
friend, as a neutral advocate and translator for her peoples.
I addressed my concerns to you and Laura, that I got doubts - that
certain groups in my List which I compiled with Lauras help, are not
civilians, but instead are well known leaders of rebel groups and known
as such most likely by the UNHCR and relevant governments.
I raised my concerns, as the documents to the UNHCR should bring cases
of civilians which are persecuted, or in fear, not combatants.
The reason I did this documents was to bring about strong evidence,
that there are civilians with claims to be persecuted.
I further informed you that all summary of claims, also from the
combatants will be submitted to the UNHCR, but taken out of my Summary
which was concentrating on? strong cases of civilians.
After further receiving translations from other Hmong volunteers who
volunteered as a result of my calls on the Hmiong radios, and double
checking them with Laura's, I realized that I have been indeed miss
lead profoundly.
I asked your organizations executive Director, and my former friend
Laura, in various occasions in between 2 weeks to leave my home, which
she refused.
After a very significant situation on the 15th and 16th january, where
I realized fully-? that I have been purposely miss lead by your NGO's
executive director, and not out of naivety , I demanded her to leave my
home on the 16th and 17th of January, which she desperate refused,
resulting in her hanging on me like grim death, and me trying to remove
her.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to have a guest, which is
neglecting to leave my home,? to have a friend and work partner, who
had manipulated and used me, who was not honest, who had not the
courtesy to accept my right to decline this work.
It was a very unbelievable situation, to volunteer on a human rights
issue, and to realize that one is manipulated and not appreciated.
It ended in Laura filing criminal charges against me, claiming that I
attacked her while she refused to leave my own home, defaming me with
outragious lies such as that I held her "hostage at my home", went to
UN officials which for sure are my friends and so not believe this
story told.
She further stole out of my home on the same day with a key I never
gave to her my film footage (and footage of other indigenous peoples
from cambodia and Vietnam) and is using the filed charges against me
now to blackmailing me.
Laura's master plan, which I am sure you are aware about was revealed,
when she send me her written requests in order to remove the charges
- never reveal that she has been investigated by the FBI (and what she
said to the FBI)
- never reveal my findings and opinions about her agenda regarding the
refugees
-not reveal my findings and opinions about the refugees
-not touch the Hmong issue any further
-that I will give her all the rights on my film footage(including from
other indfigenous peoples Vietnam_Cambodia)
- that I decline all my rightful? titles on my footage as director and
film maker (and give it to her instead)
Laura further went so far and used my stolen Film footage and forwarded
it to UN officials and US state department, and broadcasted on your
website that she has directed my film. She is seeing herself as the
director and owner of my film footage, and used my drafted documents
and intellectual property? to forward to the UN and state department.
(please remove all images of my person of your website, as I am not
affiliated with your organization, and you have not asked for my
consent)
Even so shocked and betrayed, spending money on lawyers,? I have been
silent to this day about my disturbing findings and the situation
itself, because I do not want to harm the humanitarian cause, which are
the REFUGEES.
I did not addressed this matter until now, because it will backfire for
the very reason, why I believe everyone is/was working so hard on this.
In order to help resolve this urgent matter of Jungle Homing, refugees,
NGOs have to work together professionally, and in good standing.
This story is the opposite of professional,? absurd , grotesque and out
of context. Is it for personal gain, for the idea of "power"?
What is the reason for this situation?
Until now I have great difficulties to believe how far your
organization and executive director went without appreciation.
I am aware that these actions are not reflecting the Hmong peoples, as
I met beautiful, wonderful, special Hmong all over Asia and in the US.
I will not let this behavior cast a cloud on my profound love to a
strong, stubborn and freedom loving peoples.
I will continue my film as planned, will continue to advocate for an
efficient solution to resolve the remaining Jungle Hmong issue,
will continue to work on the promotion that the refugees need an
official pre-screening, will also continue to do that professional,
neutral, intelligent and without a political or personal "greed"
agenda.
I will also not enter into the absurd stories and accusations spinning
around all over made by Laura, as it will only bring about more and
more disrespect and harm to the Hmong issue. I have worked for years in
an international arena, were Laura just entered as a newborn.
I am not using my contacts to discredit your organization or Laura, and
this letter is sent? internally to you- Hmong , so that you get a
chance to contact me directly, and to decide for what you are standing
for.
Rebecca Sommer.
Xejthim
2006-03-28 21:51:51 UTC
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Faj,

You got it right!
phabej
2006-03-28 22:06:19 UTC
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Phooj ywg Fajkhaum,

Suav daws yeej to taub li koj hais los mav, tab sis kawg LX hom tso
Kongmeng tuaj sawv cev txheem LX ces kawg yawg yuav tau ua lom cam li
las. Suav daws yeem paub hais tias LX yuav hais tsis tau VP/Neohom/H18X
quav ci noj, yog LX hais tau ua tau ces tej xwm txheej no twb tsis
tshwm sim thiab LX yeej haiv tiav tag peb caug hnub nram ntej lawm.

Hos ntawm pog RS mas ua li koj hais yeej tsis tau paub qhov tseeb li
ov, cia txog hnub xam txiav txim seb poob tau leej twg mas thiaj paub
hnub ntawv. Kuv xav hais tias niam pog RS puas yuav ruam npaum li LX
hais es sib cav li ntawv xwb nws cia li muab LX zawm caj dab ma? Ntshe
yog RS ho yog ib tug neeg vwm (mental or crazy) mas hais tsis tau. Yog
hais tias xam ho tshawb tau hais tias RS crazy tiag ces kawg LX mag
dawb dawb xwb tiag vim teb chaws no cov neeg crazy ntaus neeg thiab tua
neeg tag los yeej tsis muaj kev txhaum. Kawg niam pog RS tau mus noj
tshuaj crazy, yam heev nav.
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 23:06:11 UTC
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thaum twg kuv hais rau koj tias Laura tso kuv tuaj hais nas.
Post by phabej
Phooj ywg Fajkhaum,
Suav daws yeej to taub li koj hais los mav, tab sis kawg LX hom tso
Kongmeng tuaj sawv cev txheem LX ces kawg yawg yuav tau ua lom cam li
las. Suav daws yeem paub hais tias LX yuav hais tsis tau VP/Neohom/H18X
quav ci noj, yog LX hais tau ua tau ces tej xwm txheej no twb tsis
tshwm sim thiab LX yeej haiv tiav tag peb caug hnub nram ntej lawm.
Tej teebmeem no tsis yog tim VP lawv os thaub aw...tim pog Rebecca xwb
os. Hmoob 18 Xeem ces twb hais tsis tau ib lo lus li lawm aw....lawv
ces hais lus ntxi lawm xwb las as, tseem yuav tshuav dabtsi ntxiv na.
koj tsis pom lawv twb tsis muaj cuab kav thov pejxeem nyiaj los tau ze
ntawd ib xyoo no lawm. lawv tsuas mus ntxias lawv cov nyuag Nais phoo
kom ib leeg muab ib $1000 rau lawv yuav coj mus yuav mov rau 20,000
hmoob nyob tim havzoov noj no. peb yawg mas twb laus laus lawm los
tseem hais tias yuav tau pab. yog tsis muab nyiaj rau lawv ces lawv
tsis "nav thwm yus lawm" no tiag. peb yawg laus laus lawm tabsi tseem
tau naisphoo. lub week tag los lawv tuaj sau ib yig $20, ces lub week
tag los lawv yuav yuav $1000 no ov. Tabsi hais lus ntxi nkaus xwb no.

zoo li no es leejtwg tseem nqhi lawv thooj quav thiab nas yawg. lawv
twb nrhiav tsis tua quav rau lawv noj lawm es tseem yuav npaj hais
thiab. koj mas ruam tiag.
Post by phabej
Hos ntawm pog RS mas ua li koj hais yeej tsis tau paub qhov tseeb li
ov, cia txog hnub xam txiav txim seb poob tau leej twg mas thiaj paub
hnub ntawv. Kuv xav hais tias niam pog RS puas yuav ruam npaum li LX
hais es sib cav li ntawv xwb nws cia li muab LX zawm caj dab ma? Ntshe
yog RS ho yog ib tug neeg vwm (mental or crazy) mas hais tsis tau. Yog
hais tias xam ho tshawb tau hais tias RS crazy tiag ces kawg LX mag
dawb dawb xwb tiag vim teb chaws no cov neeg crazy ntaus neeg thiab tua
neeg tag los yeej tsis muaj kev txhaum. Kawg niam pog RS tau mus noj
tshuaj crazy, yam heev nav.
TXawm yog pog Rebecca tsis ruam es thiaj mag nkauj thiab tseem tuaj dag
rau Lao Human Rights thiab VP lawv raws nws qab los mas. Yog nws ruam
ces nws yeej tuaj dag tsis tau VP lawv pab no li. Kuv los pom li koj
hais thiab tiag yom. Rebecca tsis ruam ov tabsi nyuj nqis ntsev heev
ces thaum qhuav qa tuaj lawm kawg nrau neeg xwb.
Anti
2006-03-28 23:55:35 UTC
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kongmeng xiong stupid,

thaum twg es rebecca txawm siv dag tau vp thiab neohom mus caum nws qab
lawm na? kuv xav mas vp tsis lam caum leej twg qab li, nws xav kom neeg
caum nws qab xwb, tej zaum nws kuj tsis ruam pes tsawg thiab, zoo li
nws zaj khawv koob seem leej kawg thiab.

kev ua politics ces tsis hais meskas, los hmoob los nplog, nws yeej
involve nyiaj txiag, even the republican and democractic in this rich
country beg for more money than vp them. i don't blame vp for begging
for money, but i hate the way he spend the money and his stupid failing
strategy.

laura xiong lawv lub koom hoom los yeej thov nyiaj tib yam nkaus, thiab
tsis tag li, nws cov nyiaj tau dawb los los yeej yob peb tej nyuag tax
money thiab xwb. Leej twg los yeej thov nyiaj tib yam, tus tsis thov
nyiaj ces yog tus ruam xwb.

you all are stupid,
nraugnruag
2006-03-29 05:37:16 UTC
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anti zab stupid.....

hnub no koj cov lus tsi muaj kuab as.. ua cas rau koj lawm?...

saib mas zoo li koj ua tsi tau dab tsi li koj ruas cem neeg ruam xwb...
kuv tsi sau dab tsi rau hauv no tab sis kuv read koj cov post mas koj
hais lus tsi nkag lawv cov lus li naj koj cov lus tsi mus sib dhos nrog
lawv li naj..

cem tus ub tus no ruam xwb.. koj cem lawv ruam los zoo li koj hais lus twb
tsi muaj tus yuav tau li as..
Anti
2006-03-28 22:24:21 UTC
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kong meng xiong stupid,

your laura xiong doesn't love the hmong, she doesn't care about the
Hmong cuz she doesn't help all the Hmong, but only a small portion of
the Hmong, most of the Hmong DD doesn't wanted laura's services and
they don't wanted her to help them.

Rebecca may promised whatever she wanted and laura should know that
promise is mean to be broken.

two good friends won't just tear each other apart, there is got to be
something fishy.

why won't laura leave her houme when she told laura to leave her alone?
You have got to understand that when someone can't stand u, they will
do whatever it take to make u leave. It is good that rebecca didn't
kill laura.If one of them do the unthinkable, one of them would have
died already.

you all are stupid,
Amen
k***@yahoo.com
2006-03-28 22:39:36 UTC
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Post by Anti
kong meng xiong stupid,
your laura xiong doesn't love the hmong, she doesn't care about the
Hmong cuz she doesn't help all the Hmong, but only a small portion of
the Hmong, most of the Hmong DD doesn't wanted laura's services and
they don't wanted her to help them.
Smart-Anti, If I were in Laura's shoe, I would do the samething she
does. I would only help those need my service. Why should I help the
ones who don't need my service.
Post by Anti
why won't laura leave her houme when she told laura to leave her alone?
You have got to understand that when someone can't stand u, they will
do whatever it take to make u leave. It is good that rebecca didn't
kill laura.If one of them do the unthinkable, one of them would have
died already.
I talked to Laura about this and she said the truth will reveal when
the trial is over. stay tune for the result. I agree with you that
Laura managed to get away alive. it was good that Rebecca's roomate was
in the apartment. If not, yeah....laura could have been dead and no one
knows what happen. Good people won't die easy eh.
Post by Anti
you all are stupid,
Amen
n***@yahoo.com
2006-03-29 11:40:20 UTC
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Kongmeng or Laura,

Raws li kuv soj saib koj tej lus saum toj no los mas koj tsis yog
Kongmeng li os. Koj ces txawm yog kiag tus Laura ntag. Ua cas koj yuav
ua li no? Koj puas xeev xwm tias koj yim ua ces yim cuam muas rau koj
tus kheej xwb no maj? Kuv xav tias yog koj muaj kev nyuaj siab no thov
mus so thiab nrog tej neeg cia zoo lajlim tswv yim i tham ntshai yuav
zoo dua nawb... Muab ua zoo saib koj feeb tsis meej lawm os...

nqq
p***@hotmail.com
2006-03-29 16:19:35 UTC
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Cov pog thiab cov yawg,

Kuv twb ib txwm hais tias sawvdaws yuav tau txhob coj lub siab nqaim
nqaim thiabheev/ ceev. Yog muaj dab tsi yuav tau mam xav mam hais thiab
yog muaj tus puav muab tswv yim los yog txhwj yus lawm yus yuav tau lam
mloog tej nyuag neeg uas yus xav hais tias tsis paub quavdev dab tsi
thiab. Yog peb sawvdaws tau ua dab tsi ua kom luag nti ntsa ces yeej
tsis zoo. Kuv tsis yog cem Laura nawb. Kuv hais peb txhua tus. Kuv xav
kom peb cem Laura raws li peb xav kho kom zoo txhob cem li peb ntxub
nws.

Yog peb cov Hmoob leej twg sawv los xyaum pab peb Hmoob thaum twg ces
tus ntawd yog peb tus yeeb ncuab ntag ces tsis ntev peb yuav tsis pom
cov neeg sawv los xyaum pab lawm nawb. Kuv pom hais tias peb Hmoob mas
nyiam thuam heev tab sis tsis nyiam pab tho. Thaum tuag lawm mas tus
twg los niam ua txuj hais lus mos lus muag xa xov nrog tu siab. Yog
muab xav mas nrog peb cov Hmoob sawvdaws txaj muag kawg...
nraugnruag
2006-03-29 18:25:14 UTC
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phiajzeb..
kojhais yog lus lawm nawb..

kuv xav mas tsi txhob hais liam rau tus hmoob xwb kuv tus kheej mas kuv
yeej pom tau tias yog tus mekas RS xwb vim kuv yeej kuv hais vim luag yog
neeg tawv dawb.. luag yeej tsi nrog yus cov hmoob taug ua ke mus ib txhis
zoo li nplogliab hais hmoob ces zoo li pab tsiaj luag xav siv thaum twg
ces thiab luag xav siv tus twg ces siv xwb thaum uas luag siv tag ces tso
tseg xwb thiab muab tua pov tseg xwb.. vim tias luag yeej paub tias pab
tsiaj no tsi muaj tswv saib tsi muaj tswv zov.. luag tsi ntshai leej twg
yuav ua tau dab tsi rau luag..

noogqejqawg... koj twb tsi paub zoo tias koobmeng yog LX no thov tsi txhob
liam liam li koj nawb ua rau luag mob mob nawb... kuv xav tias txawm yog
thiab tsi yog los peb s/d yeej paub lub qe no lawm mas peb yuav tau nrhiav
tswv yim pab rau LX xwb.. nej pheej cem nws tag zos li..kuv saib mas
kongmeng cov lus kuj tsi yog phem qhov twg thiab os...
nraugnruag
2006-03-29 05:44:06 UTC
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nej s/d yeej paub lawm hais tias peb tuaj hais rau hauv no xwb los ruas yog
sib tham xwb.. yeej ua tsi tau dab tsi li os pab lwm tus los pab tsi tau
li..

thov nej tsi txhob hais lus mob mob LX lawm thiab os.. vim nws yog hmoob
thiab.. RS nws tsi yog hmoob luag xav ntxeev thaum twg los tau vim nws
yeej yuav tsi pab hmoob mus txog hnubkawg.. peb yuav tau pab peb hmoob
thiab.. nej sib cav mus cav los zoo li yeej taug tsi tau ib txog kev li..
es hais qhov zoo xwb.. cia thaum kawg saib leej twg yuav yog tus swb..
Zoo
2006-03-29 21:36:22 UTC
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Though Laura and I disagree on many issues, I will put my bet on her
this time. Like usual, I follow my instinct.
N***@yahoo.com
2006-03-29 21:55:01 UTC
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I think Ms. Sommer got real isssues to deal with?

I don't know Ms. Xiong personally but from the chance meetings I've had
with her she seemed like an HONORABLE lady? My personal opinion, I
think many of the aforementioned in the email by Ms. Sommers is
probably UNTRUE. Anyone who has doubt should volunteer with Laura and
HIHRW and let us know.
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