Discussion:
Hmong, why don't you people leave America?
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Herman
2004-11-23 21:38:56 UTC
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Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.

Hank
Christopher Morton
2004-11-23 23:36:41 UTC
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Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
If you weren't such a coward, you'd be able to make that happen.

But you are, and can't.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.

A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.

A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.

Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.

These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
j***@.
2004-11-24 00:12:31 UTC
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Post by Christopher Morton
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
If you weren't such a coward, you'd be able to make that happen.
But you are, and can't.
What is a Nazi?
A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.
Those craven cowards sure killed a lot of people, is that what you want
this person to do?
Post by Christopher Morton
A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.
A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.
A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.
A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.
Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.
These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"
Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 14:59:52 UTC
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Post by j***@.
Post by Christopher Morton
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
If you weren't such a coward, you'd be able to make that happen.
But you are, and can't.
What is a Nazi?
A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.
Those craven cowards sure killed a lot of people, is that what you want
this person to do?
A large percentage of them naked and unarmed. Real brave that, huh?

How about if he just kills himself?


--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 00:17:00 UTC
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Rabbi jewboy morton trying to change the subject---meanwhile the Hmong
organization in Minnesota is a jew front--run by a couple of kikes.

Would you like to see the two yids pictures?
a***@hotmail.com
2004-11-24 02:28:37 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:17:00 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Rabbi jewboy morton trying to change the subject---meanwhile the Hmong
organization in Minnesota is a jew front--run by a couple of kikes.
Would you like to see the two yids pictures?
Oh look. Backwoods Louisiana scum has oozed out from under it's rock.

Back to the bayou slime, scumbag!
Bob
2004-11-24 02:31:17 UTC
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Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Rabbi jewboy morton trying to change the subject---meanwhile the Hmong
organization in Minnesota is a jew front--run by a couple of kikes.
Would you like to see the two yids pictures?
Oh look. Backwoods Louisiana scum has oozed out from under it's rock.
Back to the bayou slime, scumbag!
How about if that twit moves to Palestine and join the
blow-themselves-up boys there?
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 04:09:09 UTC
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Post by Bob
How about if that twit moves to Palestine and join the
blow-themselves-up boys there?
Good place for all of you kikes---when are you leaving for your jew
homeland?
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=152578&postcount=2
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 03:41:00 UTC
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Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Rabbi jewboy morton trying to change the subject---meanwhile the Hmong
organization in Minnesota is a jew front--run by a couple of kikes.
Would you like to see the two yids pictures?
Here's a picture of your two fellow kikes:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=152578&postcount=2

How come jews never do real work---only use their mouths and noses.
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:01:50 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:41:00 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
How come jews never do real work---only use their mouths and noses.
How come Nazis never work at all?

Lazy, stupid, and depraved, THAT'S why.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.

A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.

A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.

Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.

These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
george
2004-11-24 13:03:40 UTC
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Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Rabbi jewboy morton trying to change the subject---meanwhile the Hmong
organization in Minnesota is a jew front--run by a couple of kikes.
Would you like to see the two yids pictures?
What an amazing insight into the mind of a raving looney. Congratulations on
winning the dumbass prize of the week.
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:00:43 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:17:00 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Rabbi jewboy morton trying to change the subject---meanwhile the Hmong
organization in Minnesota is a jew front--run by a couple of kikes.
Not Jewish. Feel free to pretend I am and try to do something about
it... unless you're a coward.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.

A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.

A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.

Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.

These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.

--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
TheWanderer
2004-11-24 00:32:45 UTC
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Post by Christopher Morton
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
If you weren't such a coward, you'd be able to make that happen.
But you are, and can't.
What is a Nazi?
A Nazi is a political organization numbnuts. National Socialists
Post by Christopher Morton
A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.
A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.
A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.
A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.
A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.
Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.
These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"
Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 00:31:35 UTC
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Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota...to yids looking
for an easy payday or something more jew devious...

Would you like to see the pictures of the kikes?
j***@.
2004-11-24 00:32:28 UTC
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Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota...to yids looking
for an easy payday or something more jew devious...
Would you like to see the pictures of the kikes?
I would like to see the traitors.
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 00:42:08 UTC
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Post by j***@.
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota...to yids looking
for an easy payday or something more jew devious...
Would you like to see the pictures of the kikes?
I would like to see the traitors.
Here they are:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=152578&postcount=2
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:04:08 UTC
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Post by j***@.
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota...to yids looking
for an easy payday or something more jew devious...
Would you like to see the pictures of the kikes?
I would like to see the traitors.
To see one traitor, look in the mirror.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
a***@hotmail.com
2004-11-24 02:29:35 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:31:35 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota...to yids looking
for an easy payday or something more jew devious...
Would you like to see the pictures of the kikes?
I would like to see a picture of you with your guts being shoved down
your throat, douchebag.
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 03:43:34 UTC
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Post by a***@hotmail.com
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota...to yids looking
for an easy payday or something more jew devious...
Would you like to see the pictures of the kikes?
I would like to see a picture of you with your guts being shoved down
your throat, douchebag.
Can't take the heat jewperson---here's your two fellow nosejobs in
Minnesota:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=152578&postcount=2
You Know Who
2004-11-24 02:36:53 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:31:35 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota
Are you kidding? They run everything. The Jews are in control.

And you're not. They've proven themselves superior to you in every
way.

I think you know what to do, eh?
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 03:45:43 UTC
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Post by You Know Who
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota
Are you kidding? They run everything. The Jews are in control.
And you're not. They've proven themselves superior to you in every
way.
I think you know what to do, eh?
Here's your fellow jooz cultists picture:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=152578&postcount=2
You Know Who
2004-11-24 12:48:02 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:43 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by You Know Who
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota
Are you kidding? They run everything. The Jews are in control.
And you're not. They've proven themselves superior to you in every
way.
I think you know what to do, eh?
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=152578&postcount=2
Yet they still control you. You've had all this time to DO SOMETHING
about it- and you haven't. You can't. You're helpless.

Face it bubba, Jews control your life. There's only one thing you can
do now.

And you know what that is, don't you?
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:06:22 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:48:02 -0800, You Know Who
Post by You Know Who
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:45:43 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by You Know Who
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota
Are you kidding? They run everything. The Jews are in control.
And you're not. They've proven themselves superior to you in every
way.
I think you know what to do, eh?
http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=152578&postcount=2
Yet they still control you. You've had all this time to DO SOMETHING
about it- and you haven't. You can't. You're helpless.
Face it bubba, Jews control your life. There's only one thing you can
do now.
And you know what that is, don't you?
Here's a hint!

http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/501911

He can smear cranberry sauce on the muzzle of his shotgun before he
eats it, for that festive holiday touch! : )
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:05:01 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:36:53 -0800, You Know Who
Post by a***@hotmail.com
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:31:35 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
jews are running the Hmong organization in Minnesota
Are you kidding? They run everything. The Jews are in control.
And you're not. They've proven themselves superior to you in every
way.
Hell, segmented worms have proven themselves superior to him in every
way.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:03:43 UTC
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:31:35 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Nahh. Rabbi Morton is trying to change the subject away from why two
Not Jewish, but feel free to pretend I am and try to do something
about it... if you're not a piss swilling coward.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:03:06 UTC
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Post by TheWanderer
Post by Christopher Morton
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
If you weren't such a coward, you'd be able to make that happen.
But you are, and can't.
What is a Nazi?
A Nazi is a political organization numbnuts. National Socialists
No, a Nazi is (among other things) a MEMBER of a particular
organization of numbnuts.

English not your first language?


--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 15:19:52 UTC
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Hmong immigrant admits killing six Whites, says they called him names,
fired first. Living witness says otherwise in court documents.

A sixth hunter died Monday night from injuries suffered in a massacre
committed by Hmong immigrant Chai Vang. Denny Drew, 55, of Rice Lake,
died Monday at St. Joseph's Hospital in Marshfield, his family
announced. Two other people who were wounded in the attack remain
hospitalized.

The dead were identified as the landowner, Robert Crotteau, 42; his son
Joey Crotteau, 20; Al Laski, 43; Mark Roidt, 28; Jessica Willers, 27;
and Denny Drew, 55. Willers' father, Terry Willers, remained
hospitalized Tuesday in fair condition, while the other wounded hunter
was released.

Sawyer County Circuit Judge Norman Yackel ruled Tuesday there was
sufficient evidence that Vang committed six counts of first-degree
intentional homicide and two counts of attempted first-degree
intentional homicide. He set bail at $2.5 million. Vang will appear in
court Dec. 20, court records said.

Vang says the group made racist comments and told him to get off the
property. As he walked away, he says he saw one White man point a gun at
him and shoot. That's when he opened fire, according to court documents
filed Tuesday.

The documents also show that at one point, Vang looked up and saw one of
the men was still standing and Vang yelled, "You're not dead yet?" Vang
says he shot one more time at the man. He also told investigators, as he
was running away, he decided he did not want to shoot anybody else so he
threw the rest of his ammunition into a swamp.

Vang's brother, Sang Vang, 33, said the killer was provoked by
derogatory racial comments. "He is a reasonable person," he said.

One of the witnesses, a hunter who was wounded in the shootings, gave a
statement contradictory to Vang's. Lauren Hesebeck said a member of the
hunting party shot at Vang only after he started firing at them and that
no racist comments were made, according to court documents.

Sawyer County Sheriff James Meier said there is evidence that Vang was
"moving around" as he stalked his victims. "I can only assume by the
location of the bodies and the type of woods they were in, that he would
have had to be moving around in order to inflict that kind of damage on
that many people," Meier said.

Meier also said that Vang fired over 20 rounds at the hunters from his
semiautomatic, and that two victims were knocked from their all-terrain
vehicles as they approached the scene, while others were "chased down"
and shot in the back.

Vang, unmarried, is a part-time truck driver and the father of six
children. He served in the U.S. Army for six years and speaks "pretty
good English," the brother said. According to the Milwaukee Sentinel,
Vang achieved the status of "sharp shooter" while in the Army.

Vang had been arrested once before, on Christmas Eve 2001 in
Minneapolis, after brandishing a gun and telling his "wife" he was going
to kill her, said Ron Reier, a spokesman for the Minneapolis Police
Department. He was arrested on a felony complaint of domestic assault,
Reier said. He added there had been two domestic violence calls to his
home in the past year, but both were "resolved without incident."
Meanwhile, Fox News reported that Vang had been arrested twice for
threatening with a firearm, but the charges were dropped when the
girlfriend refused to testify. (The issues surrounding Vang's criminal
history remain cloudy due to extremely vague controlled media reports.)

"We don't really know what went wrong. We don't know," said Deu Khang,
describing herself as Vang's cultural wife, not his legal wife. "I am in
shock. I don't have anything to say. I don't know what to say."

Vang's mother, Sao Hang, 54, does not speak English and declined comment
through an interpreter.

Cha Vang is the son of Hmong leader General Vang Pao (pictured), a
well-known opium trafficker and former commander of the CIA's secret
army in Laos from 1960 to 1975. No details are available as to where
"General" Pao is at the present time.

There are roughly 74,000 Hmong immigrants in Wisconsin and Minnesota,
according to the 2000 census. Many of the very pushy Hmong consider
General Pao to be a "hero" and have demanded that numerous parks and
bridges [in both states] be named after him.
You Know Who
2004-11-24 18:20:30 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:19:52 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Hmong immigrant admits killing six Whites, says they called him names,
I think you ought to find some Hmongs, call them names, and see if
it's a trend or what.
Tiny Human Ferret
2004-11-25 01:51:11 UTC
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Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Hmong immigrant admits killing six Whites, says they called him names,
fired first. Living witness says otherwise in court documents.
Bud, you're spamming.

Don't do it again or you can go get an account at another ISP.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
3***@consultant.com
2004-11-24 02:27:18 UTC
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Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Perhaps it is you who should leave, bigot.
Maria Gomez
2004-11-24 02:42:22 UTC
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Hmmm. I think you missed child brides, multiple wives, rampant family
violence, and the fact that they hop up those stupid little Honda Civics
like they are some sort of Jeff Gordon clones - and what's with those
outsized spoilers and those ugly mufflers?????
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
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neohmong
2004-11-24 03:38:02 UTC
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Hankee,

A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."

NeoHmong
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
j***@.
2004-11-24 03:42:30 UTC
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Post by neohmong
Hankee,
A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
NeoHmong]
You forgot one thing, the men that signed the declaration of
independence, didn't consider black people Men.
Post by neohmong
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
george
2004-11-24 13:07:18 UTC
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Post by neohmong
Hankee,
A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
NeoHmong]
You forgot one thing, the men that signed the declaration of independence,
didn't consider black people Men.
Wellthen I guess it is a good thing that neohmong isn't black.
Maria Gomez
2004-11-24 16:41:23 UTC
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That, of course, is your personal opinion. Others might see it different.
Post by george
Wellthen I guess it is a good thing that neohmong isn't black.
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george
2004-11-24 21:10:29 UTC
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Post by Maria Gomez
That, of course, is your personal opinion. Others might see it different.
That was not a slap at black people. It was a slap at the dork who thinks that
all people are created equal doesn't include blacks or other minorities.
Apparently, he's never heard of the 14th amendment.

"Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to
the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State
wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge
the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any
State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of
law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the
laws."
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:07:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by j***@.
Post by neohmong
Hankee,
A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
NeoHmong]
You forgot one thing, the men that signed the declaration of
independence, didn't consider black people Men.
And men before them thought the earth was flat.

Life moves forward... without you.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.

A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.

A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.

Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.

These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
neohmong
2004-11-24 18:22:33 UTC
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Johnny,

Thanks for the addion. Whether these Decloration of Independence
signers Blacks or not is not important, the importance is that the
Decloration of Independence paper is an alive document since they
signed it.

George, yes, I am a true HMONG, not Black, White, Blue, etc, but a
PURE HMONG.

NeoHmong
Post by j***@.
Post by neohmong
Hankee,
A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
NeoHmong]
You forgot one thing, the men that signed the declaration of
independence, didn't consider black people Men.
Post by neohmong
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
george
2004-11-24 21:12:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by neohmong
Johnny,
Thanks for the addion. Whether these Decloration of Independence
signers Blacks or not is not important, the importance is that the
Decloration of Independence paper is an alive document since they
signed it.
George, yes, I am a true HMONG, not Black, White, Blue, etc, but a
PURE HMONG.
NeoHmong
The important thing about the Constitution is that it DOES provide rights for
all people:

14th Amendment: Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United
States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United
States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any
law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United
States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,
without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the
equal protection of the laws.
Post by neohmong
Post by j***@.
Post by neohmong
Hankee,
A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
NeoHmong]
You forgot one thing, the men that signed the declaration of
independence, didn't consider black people Men.
Post by neohmong
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
H. Reader
2004-11-24 03:51:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by neohmong
Hankee,
A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
NeoHmong
The woodwork seems to be just loaded with you nutcases. And
what a bunch of nosense you've posted. We ought to reduce
legal immigration to pre-1965 levels and deport as many of you
arrogant parasites as we can get a hold of.
george
2004-11-24 13:08:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by H. Reader
Post by neohmong
Hankee,
A WARNING TO YOU! Not only should you better but you must watch your
mouth carefully or else you, yourself must leave this big-united-land
and return to your native land as well, if the Hmong are to apply to
your racist offer. You have no right to claim this United-Land as
yours. Unless you are not a human-born (human speciec), otherwise,
your blood (DNA) has contained a forein-born-chromosome (your own
ancestors). In case you have missed our US History, other than the
Native Americans who first found this land, everyone else (like you
and me) were either refugee or immigrant that entered this land at
different period of time. Also, in case you lost your mind, under "The
Declaration of Independence," paragraph two stated, "We hold these
Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they
are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,..."
NeoHmong
The woodwork seems to be just loaded with you nutcases. And
what a bunch of nosense you've posted. We ought to reduce
legal immigration to pre-1965 levels and deport as many of you
arrogant parasites as we can get a hold of.
So what arrogant, parasitic country did you come from?
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:08:52 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 03:51:27 GMT, "H. Reader"
Post by H. Reader
The woodwork seems to be just loaded with you nutcases. And
what a bunch of nosense you've posted. We ought to reduce
legal immigration to pre-1965 levels and deport as many of you
arrogant parasites as we can get a hold of.
And I'm sure you'd get right on that... if you weren't such a
sniveling coward.

What is a Nazi?

A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.

A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as
equals because he knows he can't measure up.

A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so
he wants to murder his betters.

A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants
to murder those who tell it.

A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to
murder the past, to wipe out the knowledge
of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National Socialism.

Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of
educated, informed adults. Freedom of
choice terrifies him... which is why he
chooses minor children as sexual partners.
He can't interact with competent adults in
a consensually sexual way. He needs to be
able to impose himself on a helpless victim,
be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.

These are the things that a Nazi is, and
there's nothing polite or honest about it.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Brian Damage
2004-11-24 03:40:44 UTC
Permalink
After being used by the CIA for the secret war against the Viets in
Laos? These people are persecuted because of that. If the US didn't
stuck its nose into other people's affairs, maybe you wouldn't have
the "Hmong Problem" right now. Wait until you get the "Iraqi Problem"
later.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
cheng xiong
2004-11-24 05:55:12 UTC
Permalink
Brian,

YOu are absolutly right. If the US does not want any other foreigners
in this country, like the hMong, the US have to stop their involemet
with other foreingers, period. Pretty soon, we will have thousand of
Iraqi coming to America.
Post by Brian Damage
After being used by the CIA for the secret war against the Viets in
Laos? These people are persecuted because of that. If the US didn't
stuck its nose into other people's affairs, maybe you wouldn't have
the "Hmong Problem" right now. Wait until you get the "Iraqi Problem"
later.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Yik Yak
2004-11-25 10:02:54 UTC
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Post by cheng xiong
Brian,
YOu are absolutly right. If the US does not want any other foreigners
in this country, like the hMong, the US have to stop their involemet
with other foreingers, period. Pretty soon, we will have thousand of
Iraqi coming to America.
Absolutely, I never understood why the United States has to meddle in
other countries affairs, and not expect the chickens to come home to
roost. And now all these idiots believe our involvement in Iraq and
the Middle East, in general, is for the good of the country.
Good luck hunting when all those "refugee Iraqis" will be out there
in the woods hunting with you.
Post by cheng xiong
Post by Brian Damage
After being used by the CIA for the secret war against the Viets in
Laos? These people are persecuted because of that. If the US didn't
stuck its nose into other people's affairs, maybe you wouldn't have
the "Hmong Problem" right now. Wait until you get the "Iraqi Problem"
later.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
tomx
2004-11-24 08:02:18 UTC
Permalink
Sad to say but the "Iraqi problem" was and is still here with well
over 1,000+ unnecessary US deaths including a few of the CIA's
unwanted former ally and countless of millions $$$ spent! This could
only be the tip of an iceberg, and it's the same mess that was created
druing the Vietnam War.
Post by Brian Damage
After being used by the CIA for the secret war against the Viets in
Laos? These people are persecuted because of that. If the US didn't
stuck its nose into other people's affairs, maybe you wouldn't have
the "Hmong Problem" right now. Wait until you get the "Iraqi Problem"
later.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
H. Reader
2004-11-24 09:37:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Brian Damage
After being used by the CIA for the secret war against the Viets in
Laos? These people are persecuted because of that. If the US didn't
stuck its nose into other people's affairs, maybe you wouldn't have
the "Hmong Problem" right now. Wait until you get the "Iraqi Problem"
later.
You don't know what you talking about, do you. The Hmong were
always at odds with the Laotians. The CIA and Special Forces types
took advantage of that. Whether the Hmong fought or didn't fight
for the CIA, the Hmong would still be on the bottom of the
Laotian totem pole, where they always were.
Felix D.
2004-11-24 04:12:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.

In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
george
2004-11-24 13:11:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very disturbing
that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous actions of one.
Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we ever get past the
hatred?
Norma
2004-11-24 14:36:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very
disturbing that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous
actions of one. Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we
ever get past the hatred?
I have met many lovely Hmong people here. The incident in Wisconsin at the
deer stand is rousing a nest of hornets and all the racists are coming out.

OTOH, this particular communitiy in the St. Paul area have kept to
themselves, and this man has had problems with domestic violence in the
past. As member of a hunting family all I can do is shake my head about why
he had this semi-automatic weapon to hunt deer?

But he did serve in the US military as well, so he has been away from the
comunity and has served our country. Norma
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 14:38:29 UTC
Permalink
Hmong immigrant admits killing six Whites, says they called him names,
fired first. Living witness says otherwise in court documents.

A sixth hunter died Monday night from injuries suffered in a massacre
committed by Hmong immigrant Chai Vang. Denny Drew, 55, of Rice Lake,
died Monday at St. Joseph's Hospital in Marshfield, his family
announced. Two other people who were wounded in the attack remain
hospitalized.

The dead were identified as the landowner, Robert Crotteau, 42; his son
Joey Crotteau, 20; Al Laski, 43; Mark Roidt, 28; Jessica Willers, 27;
and Denny Drew, 55. Willers' father, Terry Willers, remained
hospitalized Tuesday in fair condition, while the other wounded hunter
was released.

Sawyer County Circuit Judge Norman Yackel ruled Tuesday there was
sufficient evidence that Vang committed six counts of first-degree
intentional homicide and two counts of attempted first-degree
intentional homicide. He set bail at $2.5 million. Vang will appear in
court Dec. 20, court records said.

Vang says the group made racist comments and told him to get off the
property. As he walked away, he says he saw one White man point a gun at
him and shoot. That's when he opened fire, according to court documents
filed Tuesday.

The documents also show that at one point, Vang looked up and saw one of
the men was still standing and Vang yelled, "You're not dead yet?" Vang
says he shot one more time at the man. He also told investigators, as he
was running away, he decided he did not want to shoot anybody else so he
threw the rest of his ammunition into a swamp.

Vang's brother, Sang Vang, 33, said the killer was provoked by
derogatory racial comments. "He is a reasonable person," he said.

One of the witnesses, a hunter who was wounded in the shootings, gave a
statement contradictory to Vang's. Lauren Hesebeck said a member of the
hunting party shot at Vang only after he started firing at them and that
no racist comments were made, according to court documents.

Sawyer County Sheriff James Meier said there is evidence that Vang was
"moving around" as he stalked his victims. "I can only assume by the
location of the bodies and the type of woods they were in, that he would
have had to be moving around in order to inflict that kind of damage on
that many people," Meier said.

Meier also said that Vang fired over 20 rounds at the hunters from his
semiautomatic, and that two victims were knocked from their all-terrain
vehicles as they approached the scene, while others were "chased down"
and shot in the back.

Vang, unmarried, is a part-time truck driver and the father of six
children. He served in the U.S. Army for six years and speaks "pretty
good English," the brother said. According to the Milwaukee Sentinel,
Vang achieved the status of "sharp shooter" while in the Army.

Vang had been arrested once before, on Christmas Eve 2001 in
Minneapolis, after brandishing a gun and telling his "wife" he was going
to kill her, said Ron Reier, a spokesman for the Minneapolis Police
Department. He was arrested on a felony complaint of domestic assault,
Reier said. He added there had been two domestic violence calls to his
home in the past year, but both were "resolved without incident."
Meanwhile, Fox News reported that Vang had been arrested twice for
threatening with a firearm, but the charges were dropped when the
girlfriend refused to testify. (The issues surrounding Vang's criminal
history remain cloudy due to extremely vague controlled media reports.)

"We don't really know what went wrong. We don't know," said Deu Khang,
describing herself as Vang's cultural wife, not his legal wife. "I am in
shock. I don't have anything to say. I don't know what to say."

Vang's mother, Sao Hang, 54, does not speak English and declined comment
through an interpreter.

Cha Vang is the son of Hmong leader General Vang Pao (pictured), a
well-known opium trafficker and former commander of the CIA's secret
army in Laos from 1960 to 1975. No details are available as to where
"General" Pao is at the present time.

There are roughly 74,000 Hmong immigrants in Wisconsin and Minnesota,
according to the 2000 census. Many of the very pushy Hmong consider
General Pao to be a "hero" and have demanded that numerous parks and
bridges [in both states] be named after him.
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:11:48 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:38:29 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Hmong immigrant admits killing six Whites, says they called him names,
fired first. Living witness says otherwise in court documents.
Now what again was the excuse of native born White man Jeffrey Dahmer
for raping, killing and EATING people???
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
george
2004-11-24 15:55:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Norma
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very
disturbing that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous
actions of one. Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we
ever get past the hatred?
I have met many lovely Hmong people here. The incident in Wisconsin at the
deer stand is rousing a nest of hornets and all the racists are coming out.
OTOH, this particular communitiy in the St. Paul area have kept to themselves,
and this man has had problems with domestic violence in the past. As member of
a hunting family all I can do is shake my head about why he had this
semi-automatic weapon to hunt deer?
But he did serve in the US military as well, so he has been away from the
comunity and has served our country. Norma
It's just absurd to blame all of them because one guy goes ballistic. It's just
another example of mob mentality in this country.
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 21:10:29 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:55:58 GMT, "george"
Post by george
Post by Norma
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very
disturbing that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous
actions of one. Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we
ever get past the hatred?
I have met many lovely Hmong people here. The incident in Wisconsin at the
deer stand is rousing a nest of hornets and all the racists are coming out.
OTOH, this particular communitiy in the St. Paul area have kept to themselves,
and this man has had problems with domestic violence in the past. As member of
a hunting family all I can do is shake my head about why he had this
semi-automatic weapon to hunt deer?
But he did serve in the US military as well, so he has been away from the
comunity and has served our country. Norma
It's just absurd to blame all of them because one guy goes ballistic. It's just
another example of mob mentality in this country.
He seemed to be somewhat resistant to my suggestion that using his
"logic", all native born Whites in WI were responsible for Jeffrey
Dahmer.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Tiny Human Ferret
2004-11-25 01:54:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by george
Post by Norma
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very
disturbing that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous
actions of one. Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we
ever get past the hatred?
I have met many lovely Hmong people here. The incident in Wisconsin at the
deer stand is rousing a nest of hornets and all the racists are coming out.
OTOH, this particular communitiy in the St. Paul area have kept to themselves,
and this man has had problems with domestic violence in the past. As member of
a hunting family all I can do is shake my head about why he had this
semi-automatic weapon to hunt deer?
But he did serve in the US military as well, so he has been away from the
comunity and has served our country. Norma
It's just absurd to blame all of them because one guy goes ballistic. It's just
another example of mob mentality in this country.
I'd actually say that this guy going ballistic is probably a good
example of how people should respond to the "mob mentality", which in
the USA, gets away with far too much.

Kill gangsters.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
george
2004-11-25 09:20:07 UTC
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Post by george
Post by Norma
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very
disturbing that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous
actions of one. Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we
ever get past the hatred?
I have met many lovely Hmong people here. The incident in Wisconsin at the
deer stand is rousing a nest of hornets and all the racists are coming out.
OTOH, this particular communitiy in the St. Paul area have kept to
themselves, and this man has had problems with domestic violence in the past.
As member of a hunting family all I can do is shake my head about why he had
this semi-automatic weapon to hunt deer?
But he did serve in the US military as well, so he has been away from the
comunity and has served our country. Norma
It's just absurd to blame all of them because one guy goes ballistic. It's
just another example of mob mentality in this country.
I'd actually say that this guy going ballistic is probably a good example of
how people should respond to the "mob mentality", which in the USA, gets away
with far too much.
Kill gangsters.
And you'd be contributing to that mentality by doing so. The way to respond to
these bigots is the way Martin Luther King responded to Black oppression in the
1960s, or Gandhi against the British. At any rate, I have no doubt that they
are a minority voice in the issue.

Scipio
2004-11-25 03:20:06 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:55:58 GMT, "george"
Post by george
Post by Norma
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very
disturbing that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous
actions of one. Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we
ever get past the hatred?
I have met many lovely Hmong people here. The incident in Wisconsin at the
deer stand is rousing a nest of hornets and all the racists are coming out.
OTOH, this particular communitiy in the St. Paul area have kept to themselves,
and this man has had problems with domestic violence in the past. As member of
a hunting family all I can do is shake my head about why he had this
semi-automatic weapon to hunt deer?
But he did serve in the US military as well, so he has been away from the
comunity and has served our country. Norma
It's just absurd to blame all of them because one guy goes ballistic. It's just
another example of mob mentality in this country.
Mob Mentality is, sometimes, just what's called for. It reads to me as
if these people have been a continual, long-running problem. This one
who shot the hunters is only a more hot-headed example. I don't
believe these Hmong would have been hassled out in the field
regularly, if they were not behaving out-of-bounds regularly. I give
the benefit of the doubt to Americans every time.
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:10:46 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:11:57 GMT, "george"
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very disturbing
that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous actions of one.
Have you noticed that when I brought up Jeffrey Dahmer, he didn't want
to deport all White people?
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Tiny Human Ferret
2004-11-25 01:55:11 UTC
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Post by Christopher Morton
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:11:57 GMT, "george"
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very disturbing
that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous actions of one.
Have you noticed that when I brought up Jeffrey Dahmer, he didn't want
to deport all White people?
If I didn't know for a fact that Jeffrey Dahmer was dead dead dead, I'd
have suggested that from his mindset, he _is_ Jeffrey Dahmer.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
DJ
2004-11-24 19:45:18 UTC
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I can guarantee that there wouldn't be an outrage had it been the other way
around... say 5 white hunter kills 1 asian hunter from dispute.

Some people are too narrow minded to see that the action of one person or a
group of people doesn't define the whole community or more.

If an event like this defines anyone's view/opinion on an ethnic group then
he/she were a racist in the making all along.
Post by george
Post by Felix D.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Your ignorance of history is barely covered by your racist attitude.
In a nut shell: the Hmong helped us in Laos; they can't go back.
If they are naturalized citizens, the point is moot. I find it very disturbing
that people are condemning an entire people for the heinous actions of one.
Sounds like the south in the 1950s to me. Jeez, can't we ever get past the
hatred?
Morton Davis
2004-11-25 02:14:17 UTC
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Post by DJ
I can guarantee that there wouldn't be an outrage had it been the other way
around... say 5 white hunter kills 1 asian hunter from dispute.
I can guarantee you there would be MORE outrage.

-*MORT*-
cheng xiong
2004-11-24 05:24:00 UTC
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Hank,

Before you asked the Hmong to Leave America. Ask yourself this
question. Where was your great great grand parents from? You and the
Hmong are all good citizen in this country. The law in this wonderful
country does not only apply to Hmong, Hank, WHite, Black, Asia, it
does apply to all human being in this country.
Also if you do know why The Hmong are here, ask your senator, your
congress, and our president George W. Bush. You will be suppries.
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
H. Reader
2004-11-24 09:42:06 UTC
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Post by cheng xiong
Hank,
Before you asked the Hmong to Leave America. Ask yourself this
question. Where was your great great grand parents from? You and the
Hmong are all good citizen in this country. The law in this wonderful
country does not only apply to Hmong, Hank, WHite, Black, Asia, it
does apply to all human being in this country.
Also if you do know why The Hmong are here, ask your senator, your
congress, and our president George W. Bush. You will be suppries.
Great. Another arrogant nutty immigrant asshole full of half-baked
shit presumes to instruct an American on America.
george
2004-11-24 13:13:15 UTC
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Post by H. Reader
Post by cheng xiong
Hank,
Before you asked the Hmong to Leave America. Ask yourself this
question. Where was your great great grand parents from? You and the
Hmong are all good citizen in this country. The law in this wonderful
country does not only apply to Hmong, Hank, WHite, Black, Asia, it
does apply to all human being in this country.
Also if you do know why The Hmong are here, ask your senator, your
congress, and our president George W. Bush. You will be suppries.
Great. Another arrogant nutty immigrant asshole full of half-baked
shit presumes to instruct an American on America.
Someone has to, because you definitely need some "edumacation"!
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:13:49 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:42:06 GMT, "H. Reader"
Post by H. Reader
Great. Another arrogant nutty immigrant asshole full of half-baked
shit presumes to instruct an American on America.
You're not an American. You're a traitor and a coward.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Justice
2004-11-25 08:24:45 UTC
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test
Post by H. Reader
Post by cheng xiong
Hank,
Before you asked the Hmong to Leave America. Ask yourself this
question. Where was your great great grand parents from? You and the
Hmong are all good citizen in this country. The law in this wonderful
country does not only apply to Hmong, Hank, WHite, Black, Asia, it
does apply to all human being in this country.
Also if you do know why The Hmong are here, ask your senator, your
congress, and our president George W. Bush. You will be suppries.
Great. Another arrogant nutty immigrant asshole full of half-baked
shit presumes to instruct an American on America.
Justice
2004-11-25 08:37:49 UTC
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Post by H. Reader
Great. Another arrogant nutty immigrant asshole full of half-baked
shit presumes to instruct an American on America.
Hey RedNeck.......you are a typical arrogant American ain't you? What a
nasty piece of shit racist you really are. Wake up, and help improve your
economy and your country, the Asian Giant's are Awakening!!! And stop
boosting of how the americans have help other countries in time of war, that
part of America being the good guys is HISTORY. Just ask around the people
outside your little world called the US of A, you have lost your popularly.
People are turning east because of your stupid stupid foreign
policies.......US dollar is taking the dip.....I'm switching to Zam Zam, and
McD to Chinese Food.
SO WAKE UP!!!! Minorities in the US, if you are an American, so stand up
to your own choice and rights, do not be bullied by these rednecks. Oh ya,
one more thing, the real Americans are always the RED INDIANS!!!
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:13:19 UTC
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Post by cheng xiong
Hank,
Before you asked the Hmong to Leave America. Ask yourself this
question. Where was your great great grand parents from? You and the
As close as he can come to an answer is "Fleet Marine Force" at least
when it comes to his grandfathers.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
brushoff
2004-11-24 06:20:58 UTC
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Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Whities, why don't leave America? Once upon a time, the Pilgrims were
honestly greeted by the Natives and Thankgivings was rewarded as an
holyday to kill the buffulos for their skins and scalbing the native
for five dollars ahead. 5 or 6 deads......na it is not enough, should
be more. You sick people brought more dease where ever you go, look at
your his stories, whities. Deads, slavery, destruction of mankind. We
should invite more blacks to join the tiger in the wood, this might
just be a game of accicent........lol..."The Deer Hunter".
H. Reader
2004-11-24 09:45:08 UTC
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Post by brushoff
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Whities, why don't leave America? Once upon a time, the Pilgrims were
honestly greeted by the Natives and Thankgivings was rewarded as an
holyday to kill the buffulos for their skins and scalbing the native
for five dollars ahead. 5 or 6 deads......na it is not enough, should
be more. You sick people brought more dease where ever you go, look at
your his stories, whities. Deads, slavery, destruction of mankind. We
should invite more blacks to join the tiger in the wood, this might
just be a game of accicent........lol..."The Deer Hunter".
What's an ignorant foreign asshole such as you doing
in this country?
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:14:34 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:45:08 GMT, "H. Reader"
Post by H. Reader
What's an ignorant foreign asshole such as you doing
in this country?
Ask yourself the same question, COWARD.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
tobewitty
2004-11-24 08:23:05 UTC
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Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. >
Hank
Duh!!! who make the nuke?
Who send it mighty army all over the world?
Who spend billion of $$$ developing bio-weapons? The Hmong or the whitemen?
Post by Herman
Consider returning to your native habitat.
Will you willingly go back to your native habitat too?
H. Reader
2004-11-24 09:48:48 UTC
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Post by tobewitty
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. >
Hank
Duh!!! who make the nuke?
Who send it mighty army all over the world?
Who spend billion of $$$ developing bio-weapons? The Hmong or the whitemen?
Right. It's just terrible, isn't it. Now go back to the shithole
from which you emerged and in which you'll obviously feel
much more comfortable.
Post by tobewitty
Post by Herman
Consider returning to your native habitat.
Will you willingly go back to your native habitat too?
The USA is his native habitat, you friggin' babbling parasite.
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 15:15:36 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:48:48 GMT, "H. Reader"
Post by H. Reader
Post by tobewitty
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. >
Hank
Duh!!! who make the nuke?
Who send it mighty army all over the world?
Who spend billion of $$$ developing bio-weapons? The Hmong or the whitemen?
Right. It's just terrible, isn't it. Now go back to the shithole
from which you emerged and in which you'll obviously feel
much more comfortable.
Why don't you MAKE him?

Hell, why don't you make ME???

Scared?


--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
tobewitty
2004-11-24 16:05:38 UTC
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Post by H. Reader
Right. It's just terrible, isn't it. Now go back to the shithole
from which you emerged and in which you'll obviously feel
much more comfortable.
What shithole? the shithole that whitemen created? I already found it
and live comfortably here like any just whitemen do.

U C, if you couldn't beat them, joint them. That's exactly what I do.
Post by H. Reader
The USA is his native habitat, you friggin' babbling parasite.
The USA isn't native hahitat to none, it is the last habitat for
everyone with an open mind and soul with thrive for a better civilize.
You frigging mindless arrogance.
Pao
2004-11-24 09:38:51 UTC
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Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Hank... you may have to rethink what you have posted!

The deer hunting tragedy should not have happened but it has happened
and my condolence goes to all those families of the deceased.

At this stage, it is in the hand of the law and we should not jump the
gun! Justice will be brought as per the law of the USA!! All I can say
is that this is an unprecedented case that involve ONE Hmong man - and
nothing more than that. This is NOT a normal practice of the Hmong
people.

But on another sour note and in reference to the above post and similar
views, at first - it is hard to imagine that that Hmong guy can kill
that many people but after reading some of the views expressed in here
and elsewhere, it is NOT hard at all NOW to imagine what that guy may
have to faced up to (in a face-to-face confrontation). If the views
expressed by some people in our cyber interaction here mean any thing,
it is a blessing that there is no more people got killed on that day.


Pao
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george
2004-11-24 13:16:59 UTC
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Post by Pao
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Hank... you may have to rethink what you have posted!
The deer hunting tragedy should not have happened but it has happened
and my condolence goes to all those families of the deceased.
At this stage, it is in the hand of the law and we should not jump the
gun! Justice will be brought as per the law of the USA!! All I can say
is that this is an unprecedented case that involve ONE Hmong man - and
nothing more than that. This is NOT a normal practice of the Hmong
people.
But on another sour note and in reference to the above post and similar
views, at first - it is hard to imagine that that Hmong guy can kill
that many people but after reading some of the views expressed in here
and elsewhere, it is NOT hard at all NOW to imagine what that guy may
have to faced up to (in a face-to-face confrontation). If the views
expressed by some people in our cyber interaction here mean any thing,
it is a blessing that there is no more people got killed on that day.
Pao
Good words. Like I said earlier, I find it disturbing that an entire people are
being blamed for the heinous actions of one person. It sounds like the south in
the 1950s all over again.
jt
2004-11-24 14:27:00 UTC
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Hank,

If you return to your parents or ancestor's homeland then I'll unless
you are the Native American. Else put shit in your mouth and shut up.
Let the law prevail. No one deserved to die, but it did happen.
There are missing links here. Information not fully disclosed.

jt
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
george
2004-11-24 15:59:10 UTC
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Post by jt
Hank,
If you return to your parents or ancestor's homeland then I'll unless
you are the Native American. Else put shit in your mouth and shut up.
Let the law prevail. No one deserved to die, but it did happen.
There are missing links here. Information not fully disclosed.
jt
Sounds like to me that law enforcement better get a handle on it soon before
someone starts a race war up there. Can you say "Mississippi, 1964"?
Grace
2004-11-24 19:25:50 UTC
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Post by george
Post by jt
Hank,
If you return to your parents or ancestor's homeland then I'll unless
you are the Native American. Else put shit in your mouth and shut up.
Let the law prevail. No one deserved to die, but it did happen.
There are missing links here. Information not fully disclosed.
jt
Sounds like to me that law enforcement better get a handle on it soon before
someone starts a race war up there. Can you say "Mississippi, 1964"?
We should let this stuff go, considering we're all grown adults. Just
my 2 cents, it's not even worth going in circles like junior high kids
with these racist issues considering we should be doing more
productive things with our lives, like making sure our own family(ies)
don't go nuts over being bullied or better yet, bullying others. Sad
to see these things get carried over from grade school. I was born
here in the US with Hmong blood. I'm proud to be an American but I
also have pride in being a Hmong woman and the fact that I have a
unique cultural background to reflect on. It doesn't matter what
others say, unless you let it effect you. It does matter, however,
when violence is PROVOKED. There will always be the good and the evil
regardless of what race you are. I empathize with the ones who comes
in here and talk trash about the Hmong people because of your
frustrations and misunderstanding of many things. Regardless, what
good does it do you other than make you feel better about yourself and
the situation. I also understand my Hmong parents, uncles, aunties,
elders, and friends for your hard work and your own frustrations to
make living better for yourselves and your children. If my generation
think its difficult to work with both worlds, it's even harder for
them because they are at a disadvantage with this fast paced society.
Eventually down the road, we'll blend in with the rest of the country
just like the Irish, Italians, African Americans, Hispanics and so
forth. Hopefully most of us can learn to understand these conflicts
and provide comfort to the middle eastern (specifically the Iraqis)
who may now be the new refugees and immigrants. They want to
experience and provide the same freedom, rights, and opportunities
just like every one of us.

Peace!
george
2004-11-24 21:15:57 UTC
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Post by Grace
Post by george
Post by jt
Hank,
If you return to your parents or ancestor's homeland then I'll unless
you are the Native American. Else put shit in your mouth and shut up.
Let the law prevail. No one deserved to die, but it did happen.
There are missing links here. Information not fully disclosed.
jt
Sounds like to me that law enforcement better get a handle on it soon before
someone starts a race war up there. Can you say "Mississippi, 1964"?
We should let this stuff go, considering we're all grown adults. Just
my 2 cents, it's not even worth going in circles like junior high kids
with these racist issues considering we should be doing more
productive things with our lives, like making sure our own family(ies)
don't go nuts over being bullied or better yet, bullying others. Sad
to see these things get carried over from grade school. I was born
here in the US with Hmong blood. I'm proud to be an American but I
also have pride in being a Hmong woman and the fact that I have a
unique cultural background to reflect on. It doesn't matter what
others say, unless you let it effect you. It does matter, however,
when violence is PROVOKED. There will always be the good and the evil
regardless of what race you are. I empathize with the ones who comes
in here and talk trash about the Hmong people because of your
frustrations and misunderstanding of many things. Regardless, what
good does it do you other than make you feel better about yourself and
the situation. I also understand my Hmong parents, uncles, aunties,
elders, and friends for your hard work and your own frustrations to
make living better for yourselves and your children. If my generation
think its difficult to work with both worlds, it's even harder for
them because they are at a disadvantage with this fast paced society.
Eventually down the road, we'll blend in with the rest of the country
just like the Irish, Italians, African Americans, Hispanics and so
forth. Hopefully most of us can learn to understand these conflicts
and provide comfort to the middle eastern (specifically the Iraqis)
who may now be the new refugees and immigrants. They want to
experience and provide the same freedom, rights, and opportunities
just like every one of us.
Peace!
Very well said. You have a precious gift - understanding.
sibtham
2004-11-24 17:23:05 UTC
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Your behavior here shows that you are not American at all. You should
not live in this country. Hmong is more American than you are. Hmong
have contributed more for America than you have done. When American
soldiers was in harm way in South East Asia through illegal war
activity, the only people that help them is the Hmong people. The
Japanese (1945-50) and the vietkong(1960-75)were hunting them down
like rabbits. They got lost in the jungle and found themseve in remote
villages in the mountain and asked for assistance. Hmong provided them
safe heaven, hide them, recued them and sent them back to their
families in the US. Without Hmong, many and many more American bones
would still berried in the jungle of Laos and many American families
wouldn't have found piece with the lost of their love ones. Hmongs
share American value and also thankful for what America has done for
Hmongs. The general population of Hmong people work and contribute to
society. Hmongs are now American. If you don't accept it then you are
part of an isolated minority group. Hmong don't care about your
insecurity. Sibtham
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Hark Lao
2004-11-24 18:07:51 UTC
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Hanky the racist,
This tragic iccident happened because racist met racist with racial
words in confrontation just like you. The persons who would qualify
in asking the question you posted would be the native American
Indians, not your stinky mouth; shame on you!

Hark Lao
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Christopher Morton
2004-11-24 21:12:41 UTC
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Post by Hark Lao
Hanky the racist,
This tragic iccident happened because racist met racist with racial
words in confrontation just like you. The persons who would qualify
Actually, that's not clear at this point.

What is indisputably clear is that Hank is a retard.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Tsujsua Dluag
2004-11-24 18:12:02 UTC
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why don't you just go to hell...and be with your mama...

yaweh
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Pos Muas
2004-11-24 18:40:51 UTC
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My racist friend, Hank:

You have just started a racial war in this cyberspace interaction. Go
to the bathroom and look at your face in the mirror. What you see is
the face of a racist. The best thing for you to do is shut your mouth
off and let the justice department handle this case. No body should
have asked the question you posted.

Muas Pos
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Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
george
2004-11-24 21:19:26 UTC
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Post by Pos Muas
You have just started a racial war in this cyberspace interaction. Go
to the bathroom and look at your face in the mirror. What you see is
the face of a racist. The best thing for you to do is shut your mouth
off and let the justice department handle this case. No body should
have asked the question you posted.
Muas Pos
Unfortunately, there are a lot of racists in newsgroups. You just have to learn
how to put them in their place, and have them thank you for it.
Christopher Morton
2004-11-25 04:51:45 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 21:19:26 GMT, "george"
Post by george
Post by Pos Muas
You have just started a racial war in this cyberspace interaction. Go
to the bathroom and look at your face in the mirror. What you see is
the face of a racist. The best thing for you to do is shut your mouth
off and let the justice department handle this case. No body should
have asked the question you posted.
Muas Pos
Unfortunately, there are a lot of racists in newsgroups. You just have to learn
how to put them in their place, and have them thank you for it.
Actually, there are a few racists in newsgroups pretending to be a lot
of racists.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
YaMyyoufuYang
2004-11-24 18:46:31 UTC
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***@lycos.com (Herman) wrote in message news:<***@posting.google.com>...

Hank:

I personally challenge you that I have done more for WI and the U.S
than you will ever do in your life time.It was an unfortunate incident
that took place in Sawyer county in which 9 families paid a hafty
price for it.None of us regardless of our background wished for the
incident to take place so let's not make it worst than it already is.
No one know for sure what really happen so don't jump into a
conclusion.Whoever is found guilty of the crime will no doubt have to
pay the price for it.

Aside from the killing, you indicated that Hmong brought
crime,desease, and disorder to once-peaceful communiies where our
people have settled.I did not know that hospital, the FBI, sheriff,
the police department, the crime labs and health department through
out the nation were only started recently when our people arrived in
the U.S. If these agencies already existed before our arrival...could
you tell me what were their functioned?

I will tell you this- I was a law enforcement officer for 10 years and
arrested 1000's of people...and NONE was Hmong.There are bad apple in
every baskets including the Hmong basket BUT don't tell me these
nonsence.

Last year- over 300 people got killed during the deer hunting season
and none were killed by a Hmong person.

Have a great thanksgiving,

Ya
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
DJ
2004-11-24 19:56:11 UTC
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Narration:
"Hank slowly turns around an walks out of soc.culture.hmong and the door
wacks his plumber-ass on his way out. Hank then straps his rifle unto the
back of his F150, spat his chew unto his ashtray then floors it and left in
a dust storm"
Post by YaMyyoufuYang
I personally challenge you that I have done more for WI and the U.S
than you will ever do in your life time.It was an unfortunate incident
that took place in Sawyer county in which 9 families paid a hafty
price for it.None of us regardless of our background wished for the
incident to take place so let's not make it worst than it already is.
No one know for sure what really happen so don't jump into a
conclusion.Whoever is found guilty of the crime will no doubt have to
pay the price for it.
Aside from the killing, you indicated that Hmong brought
crime,desease, and disorder to once-peaceful communiies where our
people have settled.I did not know that hospital, the FBI, sheriff,
the police department, the crime labs and health department through
out the nation were only started recently when our people arrived in
the U.S. If these agencies already existed before our arrival...could
you tell me what were their functioned?
I will tell you this- I was a law enforcement officer for 10 years and
arrested 1000's of people...and NONE was Hmong.There are bad apple in
every baskets including the Hmong basket BUT don't tell me these
nonsence.
Last year- over 300 people got killed during the deer hunting season
and none were killed by a Hmong person.
Have a great thanksgiving,
Ya
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
DJ
2004-11-24 19:27:47 UTC
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LOL... why don't you go back to where you came from Herman Munster.
Take a slow boat back to Europe somewhere...
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
p***@yahoo.com
2004-11-24 19:30:58 UTC
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What is America any way? A land of opportunity? A land of Hate? A land
of bigot? A land where we all can come together to hate and kill each
other off because we can't seem to share? Some people defended the
front line while others stab you in the back. Is that America? I
wouldn't want to live in an America like that at all. But I am here.
I can't change the fact that I am Black, Mexican, Hmong, White or any
other ethnicity but I can change my attitude.

Do we want the future to be so narrow minded that we would kill
ourselves to preserve a lie? Do we want our history to be base on
hate? Do we want to live in a consent state of fear because we have
such repugnance toward anyone who isn't like us?

One person cause a crime and everyone start blaming a whole ethnic
group by stereotyping. I am thankful that those current people out
there who "Our American" government have cause a crime against don't
prejudge me and accuses me of a crime that my government have done to
them.

What if the role was reverse? Lets say that instead of 6 White it was
6 Hmong who got shot. Would there be a Hey you White people you have
to go back to where you came from. Where would the white people go?
Back to Europe? Back to Asia? Back to Africa? Back to what? I don't
think any White can claim their pureness of blood to any part of the
world. History have shown that the dominate ethnic have ravaged,
plundered and raped every living thing they got their hands on and
have borrowed and steal everything that they have. And that history
isn't even the "other" history but the good old American history that
we get in school.

I have been gone for a long time from this form and it quiet
interesting to come back and have a "Hmong why don't you people leave
America" staring at me. While we are occupying Iraq under the ruse of
freedom and democracy.
Spartakus
2004-11-24 22:18:09 UTC
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Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Considering it was white people who brought smallpox, venereal disease
and alcoholism to Native Americans, this is ironic indeed.
Pennsylvania Dutch
2004-11-24 22:24:12 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Considering it was white people who brought smallpox, venereal disease
and alcoholism to Native Americans, this is ironic indeed.
Hey, jew...sure it wan't the other way aound?
Tiny Human Ferret
2004-11-25 02:53:29 UTC
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Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Spartakus
Considering it was white people who brought smallpox, venereal disease
and alcoholism to Native Americans, this is ironic indeed.
Hey, jew...sure it wan't the other way aound?
You really truly are an idiot.

you're even stupider than "Samoa" though I had thought it to be impossible.

that the Spanish brought smallpox to the Americas is beyond dispute at
this point.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
Christopher Morton
2004-11-25 04:52:33 UTC
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 17:24:12 -0500, Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Pennsylvania Dutch
Post by Spartakus
Considering it was white people who brought smallpox, venereal disease
and alcoholism to Native Americans, this is ironic indeed.
Hey, jew...sure it wan't the other way aound?
Hey, kiddie diddler... yep, VERY sure.
--
"Holocaust was greatly exaggerated and you know it. Another monster lie
from the gover-media." - Judy Diarya, AKA "Laura Bush murdered her boyfriend"

Check out: http://machjr.blogspot.com
Tiny Human Ferret
2004-11-25 02:52:14 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Considering it was white people who brought smallpox, venereal disease
and alcoholism to Native Americans, this is ironic indeed.
Ah, the venereal disease -- syphilis, at any rate -- was brought back to
Europe from the western hemisphere.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
brushoff
2004-11-25 08:28:56 UTC
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Post by Spartakus
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Considering it was white people who brought smallpox, venereal disease
and alcoholism to Native Americans, this is ironic indeed.
Didn't I tell you guys that, the Christian collitions that handed out
goods for refugees in Laos during Vietnam War was there to brain wash
poor poeple to become a christianity? The word "Here is a gift from
God" and I was amazed how many were convinced to convert to
Chistianality without their consents and I was one of them. Help from
God with open arms to this country is like, I should always remain
silent or to behave to my master (as slavery) for the rest of my life.
Too bad, the more I have learned from this country history (Back in
Laos we've watched the Cowbays are the good guys and the Natives are
the bad guys), it was cool than as it sounds, not any more,
Thanksgivings, should be change to " The Land Of The Greed" suckers I
will kill you later . Its beaurocratic way of life, is to driven
minorities out of their touch just like they did to the native more
than hundreds years ago. Now, Blacks are living in the city (gethos)
and more immigrants later settled in the subs, they moved and moved
out why? We don't carry diease, they are at their demon behaviers or
diseases. As new immingrants in the country, we need to stand tall
just like any one of them. You whities don't like it, change the
motherland constitution. When we are at war, 9/11. we all cried and
joined to fight the war of terrorism. Our people have died in the
modern war as you are, you go home first and and we follow, just to
let our natives live happily for ever. Tell the Iraquies, not now you
can not be freed, we are too busy of having war with our minorities.
Last question why are we here any way? Let's go hommies.
Dai Thao
2004-11-25 01:19:05 UTC
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the only way for this case to be fair and just is we bring two most
powerful shamans to hayward to alert the heaven, the earth, and the
spirits to witness this trial. if all our white brothers and sisters'
statements are lies and did shot at Chai first, then the heaven,
earth, and spirits should come and take their souls. if Chai's
statement is a lie and he shot the first shot, then his soul should be
taken away.


"love is the answer to all human problems"
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
Harry Hope
2004-11-25 04:08:26 UTC
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Post by Dai Thao
the only way for this case to be fair and just is we bring two most
powerful shamans to hayward to alert the heaven, the earth, and the
spirits to witness this trial. if all our white brothers and sisters'
statements are lies and did shot at Chai first, then the heaven,
earth, and spirits should come and take their souls. if Chai's
statement is a lie and he shot the first shot, then his soul should be
taken away.
"love is the answer to all human problems"
Post by Herman
Aside from the current killings in Wisconsin, you people have brought
crime, disease, and disorder to once-peaceful communities where you
have settled. You have nothing to offer us, and we nothing for you.
You are cultural aliens and will remain so. Consider returning to your
native habitat.
Hank
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