Post by zhenPost by DownUnderI have been researching on this subject for many years (I use Family
Tree Maker program) and so far, there has been a lot of work done.
I believe the Lee Genealogy has almost been completed. The Thao (my
family) is completed... The Vang (VP) is completed. The Lo PajTxim is
in the process. The Moua ... I had that some one has completed.
how many generations back?
zhen et. al.,
Here is one list of my family that I upload to the net few years
ago... 8 generations.
Always more update but I have no time to update this one.
http://www.lexicon.net/~lis01085/ftree/
The Lo PajTxhim family is still very sketchy but the main characters &
families (the male side only) are in place. The problem is to trace
the female side!
ABOUT THE KIATONG SU+YSTEM.....
About the Kiatong system, here is the shortest version (the full
version is in my book):
.... After Laos became a French protectorate in 1893, the Hmong
continue to lead their lives as before, but the tax was paid directly
to the French through a local network of Hmong chiefs who were
appointed by the French from 1896 and known as Kaitong – or better
known as Kiatong to the Hmong, an honorary title given to some Hmong
leaders of the Lo, Yang, and Moua. This kaitong system is related to
the French ‘canton” or ‘district’ but it used only in the northeast of
Laos and Western part of North Vietnam where it is call ‘Cai Tong”.
It is an appointed but powerful title given by the French to some
Hmong leaders of the Lo, Yang, and Moua for the purpose tax collection
in a designated region. Other Hmong family leaders of lesser status
were nominated to be Phoutong, Chongkone, Chongcha and Xaophay .
The Kiatong system was later abolished and replaced by Naikong after
1945 (and those Naikong regions were changed during the Vang Pao’s
(VP) era into Mouang.)
It is believed that Paj Txhim LO became the first Kiatong.
Although it was suggested that there were kiatong for the Lo, Lee,
Yang, Vang and Moua clans, there are only five (5) identifiable
Kiatong - two kiatong for the Lo (Paj Txhim and Blia Yao), two for the
Yang (Tsav Laum Ya and Zam Yias Yaj) and one for the Moua clan (Muas
Nom Tub) .
Kiatong Zam Yias Yaj ruled over Phake, Nampha to Vientiane .
Kaitong Tsav Laum Yaj, (replaced Kiatong Nyaj Yaag Moua – Phou Nong,
Phaj Kha – 1915 moved to Moung Phone) the only Hmong Ntsuab, rules
over Pha Kang, Mouang Nga but when he died, the area became under
Naikong Ntsuab Pov Yaj (Youa Pao Yang – in 1953) who command one
company of soldier at Tha Lin Noi .
The last Kiatong was Muas Nom Tub (Moua Nao Tou) at Phouxa, Phou Dou
and later that area came under the ruled of Naikong Chong Toua Moua
then Tou Lue Moua .
In the Nonghet area, after the death of Kiatong Paj Txhim Lo, there
was a period where there was no Kiatong as the Tasseng system came
into operation. Tasseng, Muas Zoov Kaim (Moua Zong Kai) who lived at
Pang Eeb was believed to be the first Hmong Tasseng of Keeb Khouei.
When the French wanted to build the road from Vietnam to Xieng Khouang
(see below), Tasseng Moua Zong Kai called a meeting of all his
Phoutong and Lo Bliayao took on the task of building that road. The
French appointed Lo Bliayao, as Kiatong and he became one of the most
well known and the most powerful man in the Nonghet area .... then
later on, after Kiatong Blia Ya died, the Kiaton position was
abolished and the Tasseng position in Nonghet become main focal of
power - becoming the seed of the split of the Lo and Lee that exists
until the present time.
(Extracted from my book .. "From Mountaintops to Cyberspace" to come
out one day!!!!)
Pao