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Rau tsoom kwvtij thiab nkaujmuam hauv peb lub zos SCH txhua tus!
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Xavzoo
2012-09-18 03:18:00 UTC
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Sawvdaws,

Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?

Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?

Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?

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Vaj Ncuab
2012-09-18 10:50:45 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Xav Zoo;


Kuv twb xub tsheem Cwjmem thiab TseemYeej 30 hnub nram ntej ub lawm. TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem tsis lawm leej twg, yog ib pab neeg, taug tib txoj kev thiab nkawd puav leej yog xyom cuab. Tabsi nkawd hais lus mas hais tias Cwjsoquav, Tub Lis Paj Tsab. Yog hais lus li no xwb yuav ua cas siv tau? Kawg ob tug sib cav sib ceg zoo li tej tsiaj (Dev & Miv). Yog Cwjmem saib TseemYeej rau roj, yog TseemYeej saib Cwjmem rau ntsev, koj hais lus saib kuv, kuv hais lus saib koj mas thiaj yuav zam dhaus kev sib cav sib ceg.

Kuv twb hais tias Tojxeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj, Vwj Ntxawg, Vwj Leej, Lis Vaj thiab Lis Npawv lawv sib tuav tes mus ua Kong Le (Phenkan) thaum 1964. Vim li no Tojxeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj thiaj raug ntes tuaj tua kaws thiab tua pov tseg nyob Pha Khao. Ly Teck los kawg yuav tsum tau tawm Long Cheng, kawg ua member rau Phak Phenkan. Vim Ly Teck yog member rau Phak Phenkan Phaya Phengphong Savanh thiaj tsa Ly Teck ua tug Director of Administration.

Nyob ntuj qub qab (1975) Cwjmem Tsevneeg txomnyem, poob qab tsis rau nrog luag ua nom ua Tswv tabsi vim lawv txoj kev mob siab (2012) Cwjmem tsevneeg muaj 7-8 tug tau Doctors. TseemYeej Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab yog ib tsevneeg muaj koob muaj npe thaum 1975, txawm yog lawv tawg teb tawg chaws tuaj nyob USA los lawv (Tsev neeg Lis Paj Tsab) tseem muaj koob muaj npe xws teb xws chaws, ua lag ua luam loj, muaj nyiaj muaj txiaj, kawm ntaub kawm ntawv siab.

Cwjmem thiab TseemYeej kawg sib tuav tes, puag xwb pwg, tsoos beer mas thiaj tag. Cwjmem yuav tsum saib tau TseemYeej, TseemYeej yuav tsum saib tau Cwjmem, History qhov phem cias ua lesson rau nkawd kawm, qhov zoo cias ua qauv rau nkawd xyaum. Tseg txoj kev sib tawm tsam.


God bless you (Xav Zoo),



Vajncuab 5
Xavzoo
2012-09-18 13:55:44 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Xav Zoo;
Kuv twb xub tsheem Cwjmem thiab TseemYeej 30 hnub nram ntej ub lawm.  TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem tsis lawm leej twg, yog ib pab neeg, taug tib txoj kev thiab nkawd puav leej yog xyom cuab.  Tabsi nkawd hais lus mas hais tias Cwjsoquav, Tub Lis Paj Tsab.  Yog hais lus li no xwb yuav ua cas siv tau?  Kawg ob tug sib cav sib ceg zoo li tej tsiaj (Dev & Miv).  Yog Cwjmem saib TseemYeej rau roj, yog TseemYeej saib Cwjmem rau ntsev, koj hais lus saib kuv, kuv hais lus saib koj mas thiaj yuav zam dhaus kev sib cav sib ceg.
Kuv twb hais tias Tojxeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj, Vwj Ntxawg, Vwj Leej, Lis Vaj thiab Lis Npawv lawv sib tuav tes mus ua Kong Le (Phenkan) thaum 1964.  Vim li no Tojxeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj thiaj raug ntes tuaj tua kaws thiab tua pov tseg nyob Pha Khao.  Ly Teck los kawg yuav tsum tau tawm Long Cheng, kawg ua member rau Phak Phenkan.   Vim Ly Teck yog member rau Phak Phenkan Phaya Phengphong Savanh thiaj tsa Ly Teck ua tug Director of Administration.
Nyob ntuj qub qab (1975) Cwjmem Tsevneeg txomnyem, poob qab tsis rau nrog luag ua nom ua Tswv tabsi vim lawv txoj kev mob siab (2012) Cwjmem tsevneeg muaj 7-8 tug tau Doctors.  TseemYeej Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab yog ib tsevneeg muaj koob muaj npe thaum 1975, txawm yog lawv tawg teb tawg chaws tuaj nyob USA los lawv (Tsev neeg Lis Paj Tsab) tseem muaj koob muaj npe xws teb xws chaws, ua lag ua luam loj, muaj nyiaj muaj txiaj, kawm ntaub kawm ntawv siab.
Cwjmem thiab TseemYeej kawg sib tuav tes, puag xwb pwg, tsoos beer mas thiaj tag.   Cwjmem yuav tsum saib tau TseemYeej, TseemYeej yuav tsum saib tau Cwjmem, History qhov phem cias ua lesson rau nkawd kawm, qhov zoo cias ua qauv rau nkawd xyaum.  Tseg txoj kev sib tawm tsam.
God bless you (Xav Zoo),
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Vajnuab5,

Uatsaug koj los lus samhwm hmoov zoo!
Ntawm kuv tus kheej nyeem nkawv cov lus xwb ces ua rau kuv tau pom
txog Hmoob qhov kev sib tawg tshwj thiab ciaj caub, ib leeg fee ib sab
ntuj, nyias taug nyias txoj kev raws kev chim siab, piv txog: koj tuaj
tog no ces kuv txawm mus tuaj tog tod yam uas tsis xam pom ob leeg
qhov swb tomntej, txawm yuav swb los xij li, koj caws ntxiab tseg rau
kuv, kuv caws tseg rau koj, koj nyas nrhw lauj kuv thiab kuv nyas lauj
koj thaum pom ib leeg nce qeb. Thaum kawg ob leeg ciaj khaub/swb.

Peb nyias muaj muaj nyias kev kawm, sawvdaws nyeem tib co keebkwm,
sawvdaws koom teb koom chaw thiab koom kev nruabze, peb yeej pom lub
qhov uas peb hlauv ceg dua lawm.

Ntawm txoj kev xav mas, yog sib zam tau xa kom peb sawvdaws xyaum sib
zam, peb xyaum taw tes rau yus tus kheej tias kuv muaj qhov tsis zoo
thiab no seb peb puas txo tau peb lub siab ntsws mentsis.

TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem,

Neb ob tug paub qabhau zam txim pub nawb, tsis yog qhuab qhia neb
thiab tev neb li qe, ciasiab tias neb nkag siab txog qhov peb pom neb
yog ob tug neeg zoo, peb khauvxim neb li meejmom thiab neb li kev
phoojywg.

Ntawm TseemYeej, yog kuv tus xibfwb qhia ntawv English ib zaug hauv
yeej Vibnai, kuv sau txog koj qhov meejmom thaum ub (Ascas-n
TseejYeej) no los twb ntxhib zog rau koj lawm, vim koj pom tias nws
yog yav dhau tim ntuj qub qab lawm es txhob siv li ntawd, Kuv nkag
siab koj li kev xav zoo, txawm tsis hu koj ua Ascas-n li qhov fwm koj
yav tas los koj txaus siab qhov tsis tuav meejmom ua rau kuv zoo siab
thiab txaus siab.
Neb zam nawb, Ntawm qhov koj hu Cwjmem ua Cwjsoquav no los yeej ntxhib
kawg.

Ntawm Cwjmem yog kuv ib tug phoojywg hauv zos SCH Hmong no, ib txwm
tsis tau paub koj thiab pom dua, yeej tsis tau paub koj lub meejmom,
tsis tau hu koj tuav lub meejmom, qee zaus tau zes koj mentsis los yog
kev tawm lus pem hauv no xwb, ciasiab tias koj tsis tau ntaus nqi.
Ntawm qhov Cwjmem hu TseemYeej ua Listub Pajtsab no los tejzaum
TseemYeej yuav pom txhib zog thiab, tabsis peb ibtxwm yeej hnov dua
txog lawv tsevneeg li suab npe: Yeej Pajtsab, Lis tub Pajtsab. Tam li
xav mas nyaj yuav tsis loj luaj twg vim lub npe yeej siav dua los
lawm, tabsis qee zaus kuj ua rau tsis nkagsiab zoo.

Neb qhov tsis sib fwm ces yog sib dig ntawm lub npe (Cwjsoquav thiab
Listub Pajtsab) mus rau tej uas peb tsis xav paub txog. Kuv li kev xav
ces thaum kuv pom neb cov ncauj lus uas ibleeg lomtxwm hais kom mob
ibleeg siab ces kuv twb pom neb qhov tsis zoo lawm nawb…Yog neb mus
sib tw ua nom ces kuv tsis pov rau neb leejtwg lawm ov…Neb yim sib
rhuav ntau ces peb cov tuaj hauv no yim paub neb tus cag tob.

Tsam no kuv tus kheej xav tias sawvdaws xav pom seb neb puas muaj kev
sib zam txim, neb puas kam tso qhov sib cibnyeej tseg es hloov hlo los
sib tuav tes ntawm ibleeg hais lolus zoo rau ibleeg. Yog neb ua tau
qhov no ces peb sawvdaws zoo siab heev rau neb nawb…Thiab tomntej
leejtwg covtwg, tuaj hauv zos no, ho muaj kev tsis sib haum los peb
yuav tham piv zias rau neb txoj kev ua zoo thiab coj zoo.

Vim yog muaj kev hmov tshua txog neb ob leeg xwb thiaj tawm cov lus
no, yog ho hais tau siab lawm los thov neb zam nawb.

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y***@charter.net
2012-09-18 14:43:51 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
XavZoo,
Luag hais tias nyob lub ntiaj teb no "No Man Is Without Ennemy". Yog muaj caub chim es hais tawm plaws li Ly Tou thiab Cwjmem nkawv ces kuj zoo ib qho thiab. Zoo dua qhov mam xuas lub txias txias. Yes Xus, Buddha, Muhammad twb muaj yeej ncuab es yuav hais peb leej tib neeg no nas. Ly Tou thiab Cwjmem nkawv cov teeb meem twb tsis yog tua neeg npog nroj ntsuab, nws tsuas yog ncauj pauv ncauj (war of words) xwb es tsis txhob rawm poob siab.
phwvnyawm
2012-09-18 20:05:44 UTC
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Xavzoo...aw,

Nyob li kuv tus uncle Tseem Yeej thiab npawg Cwjmem nkawv ces kav tsij
kom nkawv kwv phom tuaj sib xyuas kom ib tug khwb nkaus ces yog hauj
lwm lawm nawb.
Tus tsis khwb nkaus ces mus pw hlob kav hlau kom txaus
nkaus.......tsis muaj leej twg yuav cheem tau txhaub tas zog kom muaj
ceem xwb od......nkawv yeej paub nkawv txoj kev txheeb ze
kawg.......qaum tsua tsis txawj hais los qab tsua yuav txawj teb ces
teeb meem me......nkawv ces zoo sib xws......kuv ces tuav rawv ib poom
BIAS tam sim no saib seb nkawv puas sib ceg es ho tau kawm xwb las
as.....koj cia li tuaj xyuas kuv es wb mus noj fawm kom tsau-au thiaj
kawm tau nkawv tej lus sib ceg.

Sib ntsib dua.
Xavzoo
2012-09-18 21:03:59 UTC
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Xavzoo...aw,
Nyob li kuv tus uncle Tseem Yeej thiab npawg Cwjmem nkawv ces kav tsij
kom nkawv kwv phom tuaj sib xyuas kom ib tug khwb nkaus ces yog hauj
lwm lawm nawb.
Tus tsis khwb nkaus ces mus pw hlob kav hlau kom txaus
nkaus.......tsis muaj leej twg yuav cheem tau txhaub tas zog kom muaj
ceem xwb od......nkawv yeej paub nkawv txoj kev txheeb ze
kawg.......qaum tsua tsis txawj hais los qab tsua yuav txawj teb ces
teeb meem me......nkawv ces zoo sib xws......kuv ces tuav rawv ib poom
BIAS tam sim no saib seb nkawv puas sib ceg es ho tau kawm xwb las
as.....koj cia li tuaj xyuas kuv es wb mus noj fawm kom tsau-au thiaj
kawm tau nkawv tej lus sib ceg.
Sib ntsib dua.
pwvnyawm aw..,

Cas es tseem yuav txw kom nkawv sib rho siav thiab na..? Peb twb mag
txaus qhov sib tawg tshwj lawm, tsis txhob ntxiv lawm nawb, koj
yijmeem nqee, kuv los yijmeem nqee kom nkawv thim xav os mog, peb twb
pom tej niam tej txi sib ua, sib lwv tau kev tws tas nrho lawm es pab
hais kom tsum os. Ib txhia Lauj thiab ib txhia Lis twb ua rau peb kawm
txaus, lawv tsis muaj leejtwg zoo li nawb, thaum kawg ces ob co khaub
hlab hu tib si. Ib txhia Vaj thiab ib txhia Yaj los twb sib ua samtam
tas tsis tau dabtsi, tsam no ces cia li tsum os mog. Cov Koomhaum/
koomtsishaum los twb yuav xaus lawv tej me cujpwm qias qias neeg tsis
ntev no.

Cov tub txawj ntse tsis tsim nyog tuaj ua tej yam dhuav dhuav siab rau
tib neeg paub txog yus, cia li nqos tshuaj ntxuavnyiaj zoo dua li hom
khaj rau yus tej neeg saib.Nco ntsoov tias yus tus yeebncuab subsum no
xwb nawd..

Kuv tau tuaj CA mam los nrog koj noj fawm, koj ntes tsis tau kuv lawm
ces mam tuaj ua nyos rau koj xwb mas.

TXHEEVCOM aw..,

Cas yuav hais lus li tseem so ntswg tavtoj thiab na..? Yog TseemYeej
thiab Cwjmem nkawv xwb twb ua rau peb tsis kaj siab lawm, tsuav tsis
yog koj ces twb zoo heev lawm los mas, hnub twg txog koj zeeg tawm
tsam nrog lwm tus lawm los peb tseem yuav tuaj pab cheem os mog.

Tsis yog li koj hais lawm nawb "noj tsis taus yuav tuag, hais tsis
taus yuav swb," tej niag lus no es txawm siv yuav txib kom koj tus zoo
neeg mus rau tom tsev txim los cas na..? Ntshe yuav tau tshawb hauv
koj tej roj ntsha seb puas muaj keeb ntshav Hmoob zoo, vim licas es
tus neeg meejpem thiaj xav ntov roj rau hluavtaws kom cig loj tuaj?

Txij no mus tsis txhob ntxub leejtwg lawm nawb, yog yuav ntxub leejtwg
ces thov xub ntxub koj tus kheej uantej tso, yog yuav txhob luag ua
phem ces txhob yus tus kheej xwb.

Nco ntsoov tias Hmoob li teebmeem tawg tshwj tau pes tsawg xyoo los
lawm es peb cov tub txawj ntse xawb tsis tau ib lub tswvyim los kho
thiab cawm li. Koj cov lus ces tseem yuav rhuav kom puas tsuaj loj
ntxiv xwb. Luag ntxhi nawb..!

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phwvnyawm
2012-09-18 22:26:46 UTC
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Xavzoo...aw,

Tej nyuag cov Lauj,cov Lis,cov Vaj thiab cov Yaj ntawd ces yeej tsis
muaj leej twg kawm kiag tseem niaj hnub caws ntxiab quj qees....zoo
rau qhov tsis muaj daim nyuag AV loj....muaj daim nyuag 2 nti xwb sawv
daws thiaj tuag tag tsis nti los mas.....hnub twg tseem muaj daim AV
loj mas tej nyuag plaub no tseem yuav sawv tom qhob ntxa los
hais.......hmoob ces txhob cia siab lawm mog.......tej roj ntsha yeej
pem ces mus txog dab teb saum ntuj los yeej tseem phem......ko sim
saib seb.....xav tias tej laus tuag tag ces cov hlus yuav zoo,yua
hloov......zoo li cov hluas tseem phem nkhaus tshaj cov laus lawm 2-3
npaug......cov laus mas phem los tseem tsis txawj ntawv ces phem 1
xwb....cov hluas mas nws nim khav-v tias nws paub-b txoj cai txawj-j
ntawv li lawm dab tsis los nram Court tuaj lawm xwb.
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koj ntes tsis tau kuv lawm
ces mam tuaj ua nyos rau koj xwb mas.
Koj ua ntsus muaj nplhu hwv od......kuv yeej soj koj los lawm ntev ib
hnub twg ces mag kuv chaws ntswg xwb los mas.Koj puas nco 2 hnub koj
hais tias cov tub kawm ntawv nyob hauv txiv plig lawv muaj 2 tug mus
kawm ntawv los es mag me nyuag Nplog ntaus? Ha..ha..ha.....niag tsov
tom ces ntshai twb nrog YingB peb nyob tib lub nkuaj......kuv tsis soj
qab taug hneev ces cia li pw zoo-oo tsam kuv soj qab taug hneev ces
ntsuj plig kawg tsiv tsawv xwb nawb.Txog tsij koj paub kuv zoo ces kuv
ham tsis paub koj zoo tshaj koj paub kuv nad.Phaum ua tij txij tij
laug DYD lawv cov xub-b nyob hauv txiv plig law los txog kiag phaum
nyob kawg xyoo 1975 kuv nco tau txhua-ua tus teev twg-g npe kuv nco
tau tag tib si.Es koj yog phaum twg maj?Tsis qhia sais kuv yuav ntes
laid.

Sib ntsib dua.
dony
2012-09-19 00:33:20 UTC
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Xavzoo...aw,
Tej nyuag cov Lauj,cov Lis,cov Vaj thiab cov Yaj ntawd ces yeej tsis
muaj leej twg kawm kiag tseem niaj hnub caws ntxiab quj qees....zoo
rau qhov tsis muaj daim nyuag AV loj....muaj daim nyuag 2 nti xwb sawv
daws thiaj tuag tag tsis nti los mas.....hnub twg tseem muaj daim AV
loj mas tej nyuag plaub no tseem yuav sawv tom qhob ntxa los
hais.......hmoob ces txhob cia siab lawm mog.......tej roj ntsha yeej
pem ces mus txog dab teb saum ntuj los yeej tseem phem......ko sim
saib seb.....xav tias tej laus tuag tag ces cov hlus yuav zoo,yua
hloov......zoo li cov hluas tseem phem nkhaus tshaj cov laus lawm 2-3
npaug......cov laus mas phem los tseem tsis txawj ntawv ces phem 1
xwb....cov hluas mas nws nim khav-v tias nws paub-b txoj cai txawj-j
ntawv li lawm dab tsis los nram Court tuaj lawm xwb.
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koj ntes tsis tau kuv lawm
ces mam tuaj ua nyos rau koj xwb mas.
Koj ua ntsus muaj nplhu hwv od......kuv yeej soj koj los lawm ntev ib
hnub twg ces mag kuv chaws ntswg xwb los mas.Koj puas nco 2 hnub koj
hais tias cov tub kawm ntawv nyob hauv txiv plig lawv muaj 2 tug mus
kawm ntawv los es mag me nyuag Nplog ntaus? Ha..ha..ha.....niag tsov
tom ces ntshai twb nrog YingB peb nyob tib lub nkuaj......kuv tsis soj
qab taug hneev ces cia li pw zoo-oo tsam kuv soj qab taug hneev ces
ntsuj plig kawg tsiv tsawv xwb nawb.Txog tsij koj paub kuv zoo ces kuv
ham tsis paub koj zoo tshaj koj paub kuv nad.Phaum ua tij txij tij
laug DYD lawv cov xub-b nyob hauv txiv plig law los txog kiag phaum
nyob kawg xyoo 1975 kuv nco tau txhua-ua tus teev twg-g npe kuv nco
tau tag tib si.Es koj yog phaum twg maj?Tsis qhia sais kuv yuav ntes
laid.
Sib ntsib dua.
Txiv Laus Phwv,

Ham tsis yog li koj hais las as. Peb cov niag hluas tim no ham tsis yog cov niag phem ntag. Tab sis cav ua txuj cem cov niag Hmoob laus Looj Ceeb tsis muaj Looj Ceeb. Niaj hnub no peb Hmoob plaub ntug nyob qab teb thoob qaum teb twb yog tib co hluas txawj ntawv thiab paub paub Kauv tus Maim,law, los ua cov txhawb cov laus ua plaub xwb ne. Yog peb cov me hluas uas ntse ntse cheem tej laus ces plaub ntug tsis sawv li las mas....Phiaj
phwvnyawm
2012-09-19 00:32:58 UTC
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Xavzoo,

Tshuav ib qhov tsis nco hais rau koj lawm:

Xyoo 2009 thaum lub 1 hlis koj mam tuaj hauv no. Tseem Yeej thiab
Cwjmem nkawv twb pib ua rog thaum xyoo 2005 los lawm.

Koj puas nco hmoob cov dab neeg hais txog Xeem Xais thiab Nyav ua rog
7 xyoo,Yawg Fav 9 dos nrob nrog poj ntxoog thiab Tsov ua nrog tau 9
xyoos.

2 yawg no yuav ua nrog ntau xyoo mam tsum.....koj cheem los nkim
lus......koj tej lus cia hais rau lwm tus....... hais rau cov yuav-v
lus,mloog-g hais.....thiaj muas nuj nqis.
unkown
2012-09-19 04:44:48 UTC
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Cov bawg,

Ua nej tsaug mog. Tej history tswm muaj rau yav tag nyob rau sab tim ub tsuas hais los xaus li no lawm. Zoo li lub qhov cub no kub heev lawm, ces kuv yuav tawm mus lam cua lawm ov, he he he!!!

XZ,

Txhob rawm tu siab (feel bad), thaum dej ntws nce toj, wb mam li mus dov cav lawm sab tim ub. Koj lub tswv yim tob yuav tau muab coj los zais rau hauv qab xib taws, mus kev yuav tau ua nchias taw, cov hma ntsuab thiaj li tsis ras nawb, he he he !!

Vajncuab,

Txhob me siab, tej no ces yog kev sib cav xwb (debate). Tus ntse ces zaum tsaws luag, tus hlwb taj ces CHIM CHIM yuav tuag. Yog leej twg kub heev lawm los yuav tau mus lam cua. No personal feeling. Thanks for caring!!

Phwv,

Yog muaj caij no, kuv mam li hu koj tuaj nrog peb noj fawm Nais Phoo lub weekends no nyob rau koj zos. Txob ntshai, kuv tsuas tsoo bias nrog koj saib koj heev baum li cas,he he he. Muaj cov ntxhais ceev xwm nrog nraim lawm, qhis FISH TACOS kawg, tab sis yog mus noj ces yuav mag xauv tes, yuav tsis yaum koj mus zaum no.
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Xavzoo,
Xyoo 2009 thaum lub 1 hlis koj mam tuaj hauv no. Tseem Yeej thiab
Cwjmem nkawv twb pib ua rog thaum xyoo 2005 los lawm.
Koj puas nco hmoob cov dab neeg hais txog Xeem Xais thiab Nyav ua rog
7 xyoo,Yawg Fav 9 dos nrob nrog poj ntxoog thiab Tsov ua nrog tau 9
xyoos.
2 yawg no yuav ua nrog ntau xyoo mam tsum.....koj cheem los nkim
lus......koj tej lus cia hais rau lwm tus....... hais rau cov yuav-v
lus,mloog-g hais.....thiaj muas nuj nqis.
Xavzoo
2012-09-19 13:26:22 UTC
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Xavzoo,
Xyoo 2009 thaum lub 1 hlis koj mam tuaj hauv no. Tseem Yeej thiab
Cwjmem nkawv twb pib ua rog thaum xyoo 2005 los lawm.
Koj puas nco hmoob cov dab neeg hais txog Xeem Xais thiab Nyav ua rog
7 xyoo,Yawg Fav 9 dos nrob nrog  poj ntxoog thiab Tsov ua nrog tau 9
xyoos.
2 yawg no yuav ua nrog ntau xyoo mam tsum.....koj cheem los nkim
lus......koj tej lus cia hais rau lwm tus....... hais rau cov yuav-v
lus,mloog-g hais.....thiaj muas nuj nqis.
Sawvdaws,

Tam li kuv xav xwb mas twb tsim nyog peb nce qib lawm, txhua tus tau
txais kev kawm, txhua tus tau paub thiab pom lwm haiv neeg coj zoo,
sib cav sib ceg tas los txawj hais thov zam txim. Cov uas tuaj nyob
Vientiane ntag laud twb pom cov me nyuam Nplog ne lawv sib ntaus tas
lawv sib tuav tes xwb yeej tsis ntaus ntxiv lawm. Peb thiab lawv ho
txawv deb npaum cas? Qhov txawv ces xav tias lawv yuav tsis txhob kom
neeg ua phem, txhob kom ua tiag ua kom tuag neeg. Tejzaum lawv tig lus
hais, yog yuav txhob kom sib tawm tsam kom yeej kom swb lawv sib cheem
kom ib leeg zam ib leeg, nej puas xav tau li thiab ma?

Sawvdaws twb txawj txawj tham txog kev xaiv tsa Nom hauv tebchaws no
ne, thaum sib cav mas yeej hais cuag li yuav sawv plaubntug tabsis
thaum ib tug yeej lawm tus swb kuj ho los qhuas thiab txhawb tus yeej.
Peb tuaj tau 30+ xyoo lawm nyaj txoj kev paub yuav taws tsau rau peb
pom kev thiab los peb tseem ua txoj muab ntaub dub pav qhovmuag thiab
ne.

Vim licas tus ua swb tsis tau ua nom ho tau qhuas tus yeej? Vim thaum
nws hais lus txhawb tus yeej tas tsoom pejxeem pom nws tus cujpwm txo
hwjchim, luag tseem zoo siab rau nws thiab qhuas nws yog tus neeg zoo,
nws tawm ncig los tsis muaj qhov phem sawv rawv hauv tej pejxeem siab
ntsws tos txob thuam nws lawm.

Cas sawvdaws nim yuav ntshaw lub siab ntsws ciajcaub ualuaj lau...Cas
yuav tso tseg nyuaj ualuaj li os...Kawm txawj thiab ntse lawm los cas
tsis xyaum luag lwm haiv neeg ua neej li ne.

Kuv li kev xav xwb, yog tas nrho peb sawvdaws pom qhov siv tau, lub
tswvyim siv tau kom txhob tawg tshwj, tas peb sawvdaws hais tib lo lus
cheem kom nkawv tsum ces nkawv yeej paub txajmuag thiab yeej yuav tau
tsum na...

Cas kuv saib peb feem coob hauv no mas zoo li puas hlwb tas li lawm
thiab lau...Twb pom nkawv tshuav sib tua lawm xwb los tseem saib nkawv
zoo li ob tug tsiaj, tseem subsum kom ib tug nyhuv tawm plaws thiab
tsa taw hlo lawm mas siab thiaj nqig.

Txhob lam hais lus li siab xav, peb sim hais li qhov zoo siv thiab kom
peb tau kwv tau tij, tau kev phoojywg seb peb puas txawj hais thiab,
kuv xav tias leejtwg los yeej txawj hais nav. Tsim nyog peb hais teb
lus txhawb zog txhawb siab thiab muaj cawmseej ntshe yuav muaj qabhau
rau peb dua pob.

X Z
b***@gmail.com
2012-09-19 14:02:32 UTC
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Xz, feem coob yog cov 50 tawm lawm xwb,cov neeg no yeej puas hlub 70-80% ,koj hais yog kawg lawm. Tejzaum cov neeg puas hlwb nyiam hais lus phem thiaj lomzem . Hais lus zoo ces tsis muaj sib cav thiaj tsis lomzem. Neeg hausdej haus cawv ,haus yeeb ,yog vim xavkom puashlwb thiaj lomzem. Yog yus tswj yus tus kheej zoo azoo,ua ntxoov tes tuaj ib cag saib xwb no yu kuj lomzem kawg thiab ,luag nyuj nyav ib leeg thiab tiag .
kwvtijhmoob
2012-09-19 14:45:46 UTC
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xavzoo-- koj tsis nco qab phwvnyawm twb piav ib case nyob california,
muaj 1 tug poj hmoob mus ntxua khaub ncaws ces muaj ib tug yawg khej
dub loj loj los muab niag poj hmoob ntawd mos xa. muaj ib tug tub
hluas hmoob tab tom los pom. niag poj hmoob qw qw tias,
"yes...yes...yes.. no". yawg tus hluas ntawd hnov tsis qhav, yawg xav
tias ntshe yog niag poj hmoob ntawd qw, "help...help... no." yawg tub
hluas thiaj rho hlo ib tug qws baseball bat xa tib qws rau yawg khej
dub ntog nrov poog. lawv hu police tuaj txog, police nug no niam poj
hmoob hais rau police tias, "zoo nyob dhau hwv es kuv qw, yes...
yes... no xwb es niag tub hluas hmoob ntawv ci li xa tib qws rau yawg
khej dub xwb no ces police ci li muab tus tub hluas ntawd xauv loo cab
mus jail lawm xwb.

nyob rau st. paul muaj ib case, ib tag hmo no-no thiab los-los snow,
ib tug txiv neeg hmoob tsav tsheb los txog tom kev ces txawm pom ib
tug me nyuam ntxhais hmoob taug taug kev no-no tshee-tshee ces yawg
hmoob no kuj hlub thiab ces ci li muab tus me nyuam ntxhais hmoob
ntawd thauj los rau tom yawg hmoob no tsev los nte taws thiab pw ib
hmo kaj ntug, tag kis lawv tseem hu police tuaj muab yawg txiv neej
hmoob no coj xauv tes coj mus jail lawm thiab.

don't be mr. nice guy... don't try to be a hero. yog luag tsis rub
rooj laub dej laub cawv thov ces tsis txhob thab kiag. koj pab ib
chim koj tseem mag ib ceg nrog tw thiab. niam no kuv pom hmoob tsheb
tuag tom kev los yog thov kom kuv pab thawj tod tej tag kev, kuv tsis
nres pab li lawm. yog yuav pab ces mam hu police pab lawm xwb.
Hmong-Lao
2012-09-19 14:25:07 UTC
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Phoojywg Xavzoo,
Txhua tus ua tuaj tawm ncauj tawm lus rau koj ub topic no yeej puav
leej yog cheem nkawd xwb. Tus cheem los yeej yog cheem; tus txhaub kom
nkawv sib cav ntxiv los yeej yog cheem, tus txhaub kom nkawv sib tua
kiag los yeej yog cheem, tsuas yog hais tias lawv siv reversed
psychology lawm xwb. Koj saib txij thaum sawvdaws tus cheem los cheem,
tus txhaub los txhaub no, nkawv twb thim xav zog lawm ne.

Sawvdaws nyabxeeb thiab, nkawv ob txivtub no peb twb cheem los cheem,
txhaub los txhaub ntau zaus los lawm, nkawv yeej teb peb hais tias
nkawv tsuas lam sib cavpem hauv SCH no xwb, dhau hauv no lawm nkawv
yeej tseem yog neej yog tsav, yog kwv yog tij, yog txiv yog tub li qub
no ne. Thiab nkawv cov lus sib cav no ces yog tib co qub lus uas peb
twb hnov hnov ntau zaus dhau los lawm xwb. Cia nkawv npais nkawv kom
siab nqig ces nyias rov nyob nyias ib nyuag ntu dua xwb los mas.

HL
TXHEEVCOM
2012-09-19 15:36:32 UTC
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Xavzoo...aw,
Nyob li kuv tus uncle Tseem Yeej thiab npawg Cwjmem nkawv ces kav tsij
kom nkawv kwv phom tuaj sib xyuas kom ib tug khwb nkaus ces yog hauj
lwm lawm nawb.
Tus tsis khwb nkaus ces mus pw hlob kav hlau kom txaus
nkaus.......tsis muaj leej twg yuav cheem tau txhaub tas zog kom muaj
ceem xwb od......nkawv yeej paub nkawv txoj kev txheeb ze
kawg.......qaum tsua tsis txawj hais los qab tsua yuav txawj teb ces
teeb meem me......nkawv ces zoo sib xws......kuv ces tuav rawv ib poom
BIAS tam sim no saib seb nkawv puas sib ceg es ho tau kawm xwb las
as.....koj cia li tuaj xyuas kuv es wb mus noj fawm kom tsau-au thiaj
kawm tau nkawv tej lus sib ceg.
Sib ntsib dua.
pwvnyawm aw..,
Cas es tseem yuav txw kom nkawv sib rho siav thiab na..? Peb twb mag
txaus qhov sib tawg tshwj lawm, tsis txhob ntxiv lawm nawb, koj
yijmeem nqee, kuv los yijmeem nqee kom nkawv thim xav os mog, peb twb
pom tej niam tej txi sib ua, sib lwv tau kev tws tas nrho lawm es pab
hais kom tsum os. Ib txhia Lauj thiab ib txhia Lis twb ua rau peb kawm
txaus, lawv tsis muaj leejtwg zoo li nawb, thaum kawg ces ob co khaub
hlab hu tib si. Ib txhia Vaj thiab ib txhia Yaj los twb sib ua samtam
tas tsis tau dabtsi, tsam no ces cia li tsum os mog. Cov Koomhaum/
koomtsishaum los twb yuav xaus lawv tej me cujpwm qias qias neeg tsis
ntev no.
Cov tub txawj ntse tsis tsim nyog tuaj ua tej yam dhuav dhuav siab rau
tib neeg paub txog yus, cia li nqos tshuaj ntxuavnyiaj zoo dua li hom
khaj rau yus tej neeg saib.Nco ntsoov tias yus tus yeebncuab subsum no
xwb nawd..
Kuv tau tuaj CA mam los nrog koj noj fawm, koj ntes tsis tau kuv lawm
ces mam tuaj ua nyos rau koj xwb mas.
TXHEEVCOM aw..,
Cas yuav hais lus li tseem so ntswg tavtoj thiab na..? Yog TseemYeej
thiab Cwjmem nkawv xwb twb ua rau peb tsis kaj siab lawm, tsuav tsis
yog koj ces twb zoo heev lawm los mas, hnub twg txog koj zeeg tawm
tsam nrog lwm tus lawm los peb tseem yuav tuaj pab cheem os mog.
Tsis yog li koj hais lawm nawb "noj tsis taus yuav tuag, hais tsis
taus yuav swb," tej niag lus no es txawm siv yuav txib kom koj tus zoo
neeg mus rau tom tsev txim los cas na..? Ntshe yuav tau tshawb hauv
koj tej roj ntsha seb puas muaj keeb ntshav Hmoob zoo, vim licas es
tus neeg meejpem thiaj xav ntov roj rau hluavtaws kom cig loj tuaj?
Txij no mus tsis txhob ntxub leejtwg lawm nawb, yog yuav ntxub leejtwg
ces thov xub ntxub koj tus kheej uantej tso, yog yuav txhob luag ua
phem ces txhob yus tus kheej xwb.
Nco ntsoov tias Hmoob li teebmeem tawg tshwj tau pes tsawg xyoo los
lawm es peb cov tub txawj ntse xawb tsis tau ib lub tswvyim los kho
thiab cawm li. Koj cov lus ces tseem yuav rhuav kom puas tsuaj loj
ntxiv xwb. Luag ntxhi nawb..!
X Z
XZ, kev sibcav sibceg hauv huavcua no ces haj tsis muaj zoo li no mus li mas. neeg yuav hloov yuav pauv tsis tas koj hais ...tus neeg yeej txawj thim xav yog nws paub nws qhov kev hais yuam kev, tus tsis paub ces koj txawm hais baumtwg los nyias muaj nyias saib ntsws...nkawv ob yawg no kuv tuaj pom nej sib tham ces yeej yog sib hais lus phem xwb as...tsis hais tsawg lub topic li laud...tsuav yog nkawv pom kiag lub be xwb ces los lus phem tawm plaws..raws li kuv pom xwb mas..luv ces yog 5 xyoo los lawm ho yog ntev tej zaum yuav ntev zog ntawm lawm thiab.... yog li koj puas cheem tau nkawv mas. Nkawv ob tug no kuv tsis yog ib leegtwg phoojywg los yog yeebncuab...tabsis raws li kuv pom thiab saib nkawv cov lus xwb mas muaj ib tug tej zaum koj cheem tau nws ...ho muaj ib yawg mas ntshe yuav cheem tsis tau nyob hauv internet no laiv.....qhov yuav cheem tau mas ntshe yuav yog tim ntsej tim muag kiag seb puas tau....vim nws mas yog dejtxiag paug siab ne.....thiab lub txim tuag neeeg tsis zoo lam ev nawb. Txawm yog koj yog kuv los yuav yog hais kom txawb muaj tab nyob muaj chaw mas thiaj tag kev sibcav sib ceg.

Koj ho yog leejtwg thiab muaj jurisdiction los yog degreee dabtsi yuav los cheem nkawv..kuv menyuam yaus so ntswg tavtoj ces haj tsis ntsia seb nkawv zog qau thaumtwg mam mus tsev xwb los ..as. kuv mas kuv yuav yog phaumneeg ua kwv me ntsis nej cov sibceg no lawm ov...tabsis kuv xav xwb tej lus sibcav sibceg hauv no tsis yog ib qho yuav los cuamtshuav txog Hmoob lub be....vim lwm tus Hmoob Lis- Hmoob Vwj twb tsis xav li nkawv xav ne.
Xavzoo
2012-09-19 17:07:48 UTC
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O> Koj ho yog leejtwg  thiab muaj jurisdiction los yog degreee dabtsi
yuav los cheem nkawv..kuv menyuam yaus so ntswg tavtoj ces haj tsis
ntsia seb nkawv zog qau thaumtwg mam mus tsev xwb los ..as. kuv mas
kuv yuav yog phaumneeg ua kwv me ntsis nej cov sibceg no lawm
ov...tabsis kuv xav xwb tej lus sibcav sibceg hauv  no  tsis yog ib
qho yuav los cuamtshuav txog Hmoob lub be....vim lwm tus Hmoob Lis-
Hmoob Vwj twb tsis xav li nkawv xav ne.- Hide quoted text -
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TXHWWVCOM aw..,

Cas tseem mloog tsis tog li thiab na...kuv hais tias cas tseem hais
lus li so ntswg tavtoj es tseem yuav txhaub nkawv no xwb los hos txawm
siv chim kiag lawm thiab ne, ua sab luj miv ntsiv quab nawb. Kuv tsuas
tau GED xwb os mog, qhov hais tuaj kom sawvdaws pab cheem no ces twb
yog vim xav paub txog peb sawvdaws seb puas tau muaj kev sib hlub, sib
pab thiab sib zam xwb los mas, hais mentsis li no xwb paub sawvdaws
zoo lawm os nawb.

kwvtijhmoob aw,

Tsis tau xav tias yuav tuaj ua hero rau sawvdaws saib, txhob maj ntaus
nqi li os mog. Raws li kuv saib mas peb yeej muaj qee tus tau cheem
nkawv dua lawm, los tsam no nkawv tsis tsum li thiab thiaj hais rau
sawvdaws seb peb puas paub hlub tshua txog nkawv (peb li kwvtij Hmoob)
yog paub hlub thiab no los pab cheem. Tsam no ces paub lawm los mas,
peb tseem pheej ua lub neej tev kaubpuab txog niaj hnub no.

Yeej paub lawm tias yuav cheem tsis tau, tabsis yog ib qho uas peb
yuav tau pib kawm thiab xyaum coj mus tomntej nawb, Thaum pom ob
leegtwg sib cav tsis muaj chaw mus lawm los yuav tau cheem, thaum ho
sib ntaus lawm los yuav tau cheem. Cheem los ntawm sawvdaws li kev
pomzoo, yog nkawv ho tsis yuav los xijpeem peb twb muab peb txoj kev
pab los tham tawm rau nkawv lawm. Dhau qhov no mus yuav ua cas los ywj
nkawv.

Sawvdaws siv xav seb qhov yuav hais tau rau peb nyob taus uake yog los
twg? Xav tias peb cov qhov muag hauv siab yuav nyob tau theem nruab
nrab, feem coob pom qhov twg zoo dua peb yuav tau txiavtxim siab siv
mus, peb puas tau ua zoo xav ne?

Sawvdaws,

Peb txhaub kom nkawv khaub hlab kiag zoo dua los, peb cheem nkawv zoo
dua ne? Teb tuaj seb...!

X Z
TXHEEVCOM
2012-09-19 17:51:43 UTC
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O> Koj ho yog leejtwg  thiab muaj jurisdiction los yog degreee dabtsi
yuav los cheem nkawv..kuv menyuam yaus so ntswg tavtoj ces haj tsis
ntsia seb nkawv zog qau thaumtwg mam mus tsev xwb los ..as. kuv mas
kuv yuav yog phaumneeg ua kwv me ntsis nej cov sibceg no lawm
ov...tabsis kuv xav xwb tej lus sibcav sibceg hauv  no  tsis yog ib
qho yuav los cuamtshuav txog Hmoob lub be....vim lwm tus Hmoob Lis-
Hmoob Vwj twb tsis xav li nkawv xav ne.- Hide quoted text -
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TXHWWVCOM aw..,
Cas tseem mloog tsis tog li thiab na...kuv hais tias cas tseem hais
lus li so ntswg tavtoj es tseem yuav txhaub nkawv no xwb los hos txawm
siv chim kiag lawm thiab ne, ua sab luj miv ntsiv quab nawb. Kuv tsuas
tau GED xwb os mog, qhov hais tuaj kom sawvdaws pab cheem no ces twb
yog vim xav paub txog peb sawvdaws seb puas tau muaj kev sib hlub, sib
pab thiab sib zam xwb los mas, hais mentsis li no xwb paub sawvdaws
zoo lawm os nawb.
kwvtijhmoob aw,
Tsis tau xav tias yuav tuaj ua hero rau sawvdaws saib, txhob maj ntaus
nqi li os mog. Raws li kuv saib mas peb yeej muaj qee tus tau cheem
nkawv dua lawm, los tsam no nkawv tsis tsum li thiab thiaj hais rau
sawvdaws seb peb puas paub hlub tshua txog nkawv (peb li kwvtij Hmoob)
yog paub hlub thiab no los pab cheem. Tsam no ces paub lawm los mas,
peb tseem pheej ua lub neej tev kaubpuab txog niaj hnub no.
Yeej paub lawm tias yuav cheem tsis tau, tabsis yog ib qho uas peb
yuav tau pib kawm thiab xyaum coj mus tomntej nawb, Thaum pom ob
leegtwg sib cav tsis muaj chaw mus lawm los yuav tau cheem, thaum ho
sib ntaus lawm los yuav tau cheem. Cheem los ntawm sawvdaws li kev
pomzoo, yog nkawv ho tsis yuav los xijpeem peb twb muab peb txoj kev
pab los tham tawm rau nkawv lawm. Dhau qhov no mus yuav ua cas los ywj
nkawv.
Sawvdaws siv xav seb qhov yuav hais tau rau peb nyob taus uake yog los
twg? Xav tias peb cov qhov muag hauv siab yuav nyob tau theem nruab
nrab, feem coob pom qhov twg zoo dua peb yuav tau txiavtxim siab siv
mus, peb puas tau ua zoo xav ne?
Sawvdaws,
Peb txhaub kom nkawv khaub hlab kiag zoo dua los, peb cheem nkawv zoo
dua ne? Teb tuaj seb...!
X Z
XZ, ua neeg laus li peb cov tuaj hauv no lawm es tseem pheej yuav kom leejtwg qhia...tsis muaj neeg qhia tau lawm os mog. Neeg laus rov ua me yaus ces zoo li no mas...tabsis koj muab khobnoom ntxias tsis tau li koj ntxias menyuam yaus lawm ov.

Yog cheem tsis tau lawm kavtsij cia nws hais nws kom kawg nws lub tswv8 kiag...ces nws tsuas hais cov qub lus lawm xwb....yog thaum koj pom tias nws hais qub lus lawm xwb ces ...nws tsis yog ib tus neeg tseemceeb lawm.. muaj dabsti zoo koj hla nws los tau lawm...li no xwb. Yog thaum nws ho hloov lawm es muab lub tswv8 tshiab tuaj tham koj mam nrog nws tham. Neeg mas ...yog hais tias yog neeg coj ncaj mas lub topic tham dabtsi koj muab povthawj tuaj tham....txawm hais tias yav tas koj txawm nrog nws sivcav sibceg muaj yeej muaj swb los ...muaj lus tshiab yuav tsum tham lus tshiab pob ..puas yog mas....ho tos tsis nyoog pomkiag lub be tshwm xwb twb hais lus phem lawm mostly digress from the topic rov mus nkag rau yus qhov uas sibceg 5 xyoo tas los lawm ces ..cov neeg no..koj txhob mus thab kiag vim coj zoo li pab niag pojniam tsis leemcai es tsawg hnub los hais lo lus qub. Luag cov neeg coj zoo thiab yuav los ua tus coj mas txawm hais tau siab qis los luag muaj qhov zam txim tau ov..thiab luag pom zoo los yog honor nws qhov concede...tsis zoo li cov peb pom no es hais ib chim ces txawm siv yuav ua lub txias..tej no mas yog lus meyaus xwb ....neeglaus mas yuav tau hais lus raws li yus lub tswv8.
phwvnyawm
2012-09-19 20:22:43 UTC
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Txheevcom,John...aw,

Koj sob lus no yog cov poj niam pom mas lawv yuav tsis txaus siab rau
koj nawb.
koj txhob mus thab kiag vim coj zoo li pab niag pojniam tsis leemcai es tsawg hnub los hais lo lus qub. Luag cov neeg coj zoo thiab yuav los ua tus coj mas txawm >hais tau siab qis los luag muaj qhov zam txim tau ov..thiab luag pom zoo los yog honor nws qhov concede...tsis zoo li
Tej laus thaum ub mas saib tsis tau cov poj niam tus puav ncauj ntau-
au ces pheej cem piv zias tias hais lus li poj niam......tiag-g mas
peb cov niag txiv neej yeej muaj ib txhia niag tseem ncauj ntau tshaj
cov poj niam.Nej sim xav saib maj peb tuaj txog rooj teb no cov
ntxhais hais lus tseem ceeb tshaj peb cov phaw ....yog yuav muab luv
ces peb cov txiv neej tseem hais ntau tshaj cov pom niam lawm nawb.Yog
yus hais tias coj li poj niam thiab hais lus li poj niam peb yuav tau
tso lo lus no tseg......kuv twb mag lawv cov poj niam hais ib zaum
vim kuv hais tias txhob coj thiab hais lus li poj niam hais.

Kwvtij....aw,

Oib...oib....oib....tus hais tias tus poj niam hmoob mus deev yawg DUB
ntawd ib koog Appartment lub hoob ntxhua khaub ncaws es nws qw-
w...oh..oh.oh...yes..yes.yes ces yawg tub hluas hmoob xav tias yog
txhom niag pog nws thiaj xuas tib qw rau yawg dub nkoj hlo rau
ntawd......tsis yog kuv hais yog Dr Fajkhaum hais....koj txhob lam tau
lam liam rau kuv maj.....yuad.
Xyoo no koj puas mus tua nas thiab? kuv ces tsis khoom ces tsis tau
mus li cia saib lwm xyoo puas khoom.Nram CA no ces yog koj tsis mus
tua thawj-j week ces mus qeeb ib week ces nas twb tu noob lawm.....mus
los tsis pom ib tug nas khiav li lawm..aw.

Sib ntsib dua.
TXHEEVCOM
2012-09-19 22:12:11 UTC
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Txheevcom,John...aw,
Koj sob lus no yog cov poj niam pom mas lawv yuav tsis txaus siab rau
koj nawb.
koj txhob mus thab kiag vim coj zoo li pab niag pojniam tsis leemcai es tsawg hnub los hais lo lus qub. Luag cov neeg coj zoo thiab yuav los ua tus coj mas txawm >hais tau siab qis los luag muaj qhov zam txim tau ov..thiab luag pom zoo los yog honor nws qhov concede...tsis zoo li
Tej laus thaum ub mas saib tsis tau cov poj niam tus puav ncauj ntau-
au ces pheej cem piv zias tias hais lus li poj niam......tiag-g mas
peb cov niag txiv neej yeej muaj ib txhia niag tseem ncauj ntau tshaj
cov poj niam.Nej sim xav saib maj peb tuaj txog rooj teb no cov
ntxhais hais lus tseem ceeb tshaj peb cov phaw ....yog yuav muab luv
ces peb cov txiv neej tseem hais ntau tshaj cov pom niam lawm nawb.Yog
yus hais tias coj li poj niam thiab hais lus li poj niam peb yuav tau
tso lo lus no tseg......kuv twb mag lawv cov poj niam hais ib zaum
vim kuv hais tias txhob coj thiab hais lus li poj niam hais.
Kwvtij....aw,
Oib...oib....oib....tus hais tias tus poj niam hmoob mus deev yawg DUB
ntawd ib koog Appartment lub hoob ntxhua khaub ncaws es nws qw-
w...oh..oh.oh...yes..yes.yes ces yawg tub hluas hmoob xav tias yog
txhom niag pog nws thiaj xuas tib qw rau yawg dub nkoj hlo rau
ntawd......tsis yog kuv hais yog Dr Fajkhaum hais....koj txhob lam tau
lam liam rau kuv maj.....yuad.
Xyoo no koj puas mus tua nas thiab? kuv ces tsis khoom ces tsis tau
mus li cia saib lwm xyoo puas khoom.Nram CA no ces yog koj tsis mus
tua thawj-j week ces mus qeeb ib week ces nas twb tu noob lawm.....mus
los tsis pom ib tug nas khiav li lawm..aw.
Sib ntsib dua.
Phwv...tos kuv hais li los pojniam yog hom hais lus ntau tshaj txivneej thiab nyiam hais lus phem rau nws lwm tus pojniam ov.kuj yuav tsis yog txhua tus pojoniam coj li ntawd tabsis cov pojniam hais lus phem yeej coob tshaj txivneej.

kuv hais hauv kuv chaw ua haujlwm kiag xwb mas....peb cov txivneej mas tuaj txog yus tsuas tham kev ua haujlwm ,tham txog technology thiab kev nrhiav noj nrhiav haus ...ho lawv cov pojniam tuaj txog kiag ces iab nrov tshaj tag nrog cov txiv neej , thiab koj tsuas hnov qhov uas , tus ntawd mas phem , tus tom mas phem thiab tuaj tham txog nws cov me tub menyuam mas kawm ntawv zoo tshaj luag , ua mus ua los ces nws cov niag pojniam rov sib ntxub ua haujlwm mas koj tsis xav pab kuv , kuv tsis xav pab koj; tsawg tus pojniam thiaj li coj lus tog nawb tos kuv muab pivtxwv rau ib co nas.
kwvtijhmoob
2012-09-19 18:16:04 UTC
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On Sep 19, 12:07 pm, Xavzoo <***@gmail.com> wrote:

Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
Post by Xavzoo
Yeej paub lawm tias yuav cheem tsis tau,
Dhau qhov no mus yuav ua cas los ywj
nkawv.
xz aw-- koj twb rov teb koj lo lus nug saum toj no tag lawm es tseem
yuav nug lwm tus thiab tham dab tsi ntxiv lawm nas.
Xavzoo
2012-09-19 20:14:46 UTC
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Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
Post by Xavzoo
Yeej paub lawm tias yuav cheem tsis tau,
Dhau qhov no mus yuav ua cas los ywj
nkawv.
xz aw-- koj twb rov teb koj lo lus nug saum toj no tag lawm es tseem
yuav nug lwm tus thiab tham dab tsi ntxiv lawm nas.
kwvtijhmoob,

Ib txhia hais txog qhov tsis cheem nkawv li ces thiaj nug xwb os nawb.
Rov nug kom clear tias thaum sawvdaws ua zoo xav lawm, cheem nkawv zoo
dua los tsis cheem nkawv zoo dua no xwb? Nkag siab thiab os mog!

TXHEEVCOM,

Yeej yog li koj hais ib txhi los mas, tabsis kom sawvdaws xav rau
ntawm qhov peb ntshaw kom Hmoob sib hlub thiab sib koom siab na. Tsis
yog yuav qhia nkawv, yog cheem nkawv xwb os nwb. Tshajplaws, yog xav
paub txhua tus li siab ntsws seb peb puas nyiam sib puag xubpwg kom
tsuas muaj qhov zoo rau sawvdaws.

X Z
kwvtijhmoob
2012-09-19 12:25:43 UTC
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Nyob li kuv tus uncle Tseem Yeej thiab npawg Cwjmem nkawv ces kav tsij
kom nkawv kwv phom tuaj sib xyuas kom ib tug khwb nkaus ces yog hauj
lwm lawm nawb.
phwvnyawm-- haj..haj..haj..... kuv mas nyiam koj zaj tshaj. yog tsa
nom no ces kuv pom zoo tsa koj los ua tus coj thiab ua tus neeg txiav
txim nyob rau peb lub zos SCH. no nawb. haj..haj..haj....

seriously, niam no peb nyob teb chaws democracy lawm, sawvdaws muaj
faj huam sij luag lawm. cia nyias ua raws nyias siab. ib tug yuav
hais/cheem tsis tau ib tug lawm. yus tus pojniam kiag yus twb tsis
kab hais thiab twb cheem tsis tau lawm nas. sometime yus kiag yus twb
tsis lav yus lawm thiab nas. so just leave them alone as long as they
don't point a gun to our head.
TXHEEVCOM
2012-09-18 20:21:09 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
kavtsij cia nkawv uakom qhauzog mas cas txawmsiv ntshai ua luaj. qhov ua s/d tuaj hauv no ces ham tsis yuav xav tuaj sibceg thiab sib bhoo kom txaus seb leejtwg txawj tsim tau tej lubtswv8 tshiab...ces yog lub sijhawm no xwb tiag. Leejtwg xav sim tej tswv8 uas niajhnub mus kawm thiab xyaum tau los lawd ntau xyoo tsis tau siv ces tamsim no yog sijhawm lawd nawb. kuv tsis cheem ov...tseem xav pom tej timkhawv , povthawj thiab lajlim tswv8 ua nkawv muab tuaj tso rau hauv no peb pom kawg li ho....kav tsij tuaj hais kom tag nawb::::

Yus noj tsis tau ces yuav tuag....Yus hais tsis taus ces yuav swb...os mog!!!!!!!
H***@aol.com
2012-09-19 03:19:32 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Xav Zoo,

Raws li kuv xav mas sawv daws tsis txhob xiam sijhawm mus cheem ob tug txiv phaw nyuj no. Nkawd yeej sib haum ciaj caub tau ntev niaj ntau xyoo los lawm. Nkawd yuav sib xa ces vim yog CM muab zaj nkauj Hin Heup 75 coj los hu rau sawv daws mloog ces thiaj li txhaum TY. Raws li kuv nco mas Phwvnyawm yog ib tug uas tau cheem nkawd thaum nkawd sib lwv hu zaj nkauj ntawd.

HM213
Moghlub
2012-09-19 05:22:17 UTC
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Nyob zoo cov bawg,

Xavzoo aw.... ua cas kuv xav hais tias koj lub haulus (topic) yuav ntos txog tej yam muaj nqis tshaj rau peb tham ua cas ho mus hais txog ob tug txiv nyuj kub zuagx no xwb naj? Li coob tus hais los lawd os, cia nkawd sib ntsuas txuj rau peb kawm thiab os. Tsuav yog nqaij tsi ntuag, ntshaav tsi nrog ces tsi ua cas li. Peb yuav tau xyaum kom tawv tshaj li peb pom los mas thiaj li yuav ciaj taus haiv nawb.

Tim no tshav ntuj heev es ntshai nyob tsam ces tsi tau mov noj xwb os... Dua li ces the new revolutionized Hmong women (married women) are to cheat and scam the hungry and thursty Hmong American men's thick pockets.

Nyob zoo nej sawv daws

M
k***@aol.com
2012-09-19 21:51:53 UTC
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phwvnyawm-- nas thiab mos lwj ces txij tuaj teb chaws no ces kuv yeej tsis tau mus tua ib zaug li as. riam phom ces thauv yus twb tua tua dhuav tas lawm. tuaj teb chaws no ces twb yog khiav ntawm rab riam thiab rab phom xwb ntag. yog li kuv thiaj tsis kov phom ntxiv li lawm.

nas ces kuv muaj ib tug txiv hluas niaj xyoo mus tua ces nws yeej niaj xyoo nqa tuaj pub kuv noj ces tsuas noj li xwb. ho mos lwj ces yus lam tua yus niag maum mos lwj hauv tsev xwb as haj..haj..haj...
Vaj Ncuab
2012-09-19 23:55:10 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
TseemYeej & Cwjmem;



May 1976, Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj, Maj. Muas Lauj thiab Lt. Nom Loob Vaj lawv ua team rov Thaibteb los txog Phou Bia (Liaj Qhua ze Nam Yin). Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj txhij kiag tub rog tuaj khoom kiag Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj thiab khoos lub XOV TOOJ los rau Houei Ki Nin. Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj hais rau Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj hais tias yawg Paj tso yij Nkias Xwm (Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj) nrog kuv mus lawm Nam Mo (Naj Mub) kuv yuav muab ib tug nyuj hu yawg plig. Capt. Paj Kaub tsis kam, ob tug sib cav yuav sib tua.

Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj txhij tubrog kwv Kanoos 57 (57mm), kwv 60mm nce Roob tig phom rau Houei Ki Nin. Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj los txhij tubrog thiab tig phom B-40 npaj tua Nam Mo. Thaum no Lt. Col. Lis Neeb thiab Lauj Thoob nyob Pha Houei tuaj cheem Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj thiab Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj nkawd. Lt. Col. Lis Neeb hais tias Tasseng Xaiv Suav thiab Capt. Paj Kaub neb heev meb mus tua Nyablaj nyob Phak Khet, nej heev neb mus tua Nyablaj nyob Roob Vaj Foom, Nyablaj twb tua tsis tag es neb tseem yuav rov sib tua. Thaum kawg Lt. Col. Lis Neeb thiab Lauj Thoob nkawd cheem tau Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj & Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj.

Lt. Lauj Neeb uas yog Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj tus Nais Xaim ris lub Xovtooj khiav mus rau Phou He. Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj txhij kiag 100 leej tubrog tuaj khoos kiag Lt. Lauj Neeb kom muab lub Xovtooj rau Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj. Lt. Lauj Neeb ua tsis tau tes thiaj muab lub Xovtooj rau Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj ris mus rau Tham Lou tabsi Lt. Lauj Neeb muab cov Code pov tseg tag tsis qhia rau leej twg. Thaum tsis paub cov Code lawm cov Naisxaim tsis muaj leej twg ntaus tau, txawm ntaus los Thaib (Udorn) tsis kam txais.

Vim yog tus Hmoob, November 1976 Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj & Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj nkawd kawg yuav tsum tau sib fim, zaum ua ke sablaj sib tham txog kev tiv thaiv lub teb lub chaws nyob Nam Mo. Txawm li ntawd los cov Chao Fa (Xaiv Suav & Paj Kaub) tseem swb tus Pathet Lao.

Neb (TseemYeej & Cwjmem) puas muaj tus yam ntxwv zoo li Tasseng Xaiv Suav & Capt. Paj Kaub? Neb puas paub hais tias neb sib ceg kis mus txog Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab, Tsevneeg Hmoob Vwj? Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab & Tsevneeg Hmoob Vwj twb suffer txaus lawm, luag twb hais txaus lawm es neb tseem yuav hais thiab? Yog yuav cem neb kuj cem Hmoob tus Yeebncuab, cem Nplogliab, cem Nyablaj liab, cem Chommaly Sayasone thiab cem Thongsing Thamavong.

TseemYeej & Cwjmem neb yog tib tug, taug tib txoj kev, yog xyom cuab thiab yeej nyob ua ke Merced, California los lawm. Yog luag cem TseemYeej ntshai Cwjmem tseem yuav tiv thaiv, yog luag tsuj Cwjmem ntshai TseemYeej tseem yuav rub sawv. Ua cas neb tseem kaj siab sib cav? Neb puas paub hais tias tag neb lawm (tuag) los internet tseem yuav keep neb tej lus sib cav. Neb puas paub hais tias Hmoob Canada, Hmoob Fabkis, Hmoob Australia, Hmoob Thaib, Hmoob Nploj, Hmoob Nyablaj & Hmoob Suav paub thiab paub neb tej lus sib cav sib ceg thiab sib rhuav no tag....


Kawg no thov neb tsum (stop).


Vajncuab 5
T***@yahoo.com
2012-09-20 02:03:28 UTC
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Xavzoo hab Vajncuab,

Kuv saib mas meb muab tej lug nuav take serious dlhau hwv lawm ntshai
meb yuav cale mob hlwb lau ob yawg! Kuv tug laug nuav mas haj xaav nce
tsaag saib xwb, tag tag mas tub tsis tau txaus yees es ua le caag meb
pheej yuav ntshai ua luaj le hov. Ca tso tshaav plhuav ob tug nyag
hom nyag khaj rua peb saib maj, nqaj tsis ntuag ntshaav tsis nrog tes
yeej tsis khaus. Yog meb thaam txug kev sis hum xeeb mas ca moog
thaam tom vaaj tom tsev xob tuaj thaam huv nuav rua qhov lub zog nuav
meb txawm has serious los yeej tsis muaj tuab neeg yuav take meb tej
lug as a serious le. Huv nuav tsuas yog ib qho chaw tuaj sis ntsuas
zug xwb so let him/her do his/her free style.

TY and Cwj--go ahead show your ultimatum of intelligence ntaag nawb.
Meb tug twg txawj hab muaj skills le caag los yim meem theev ntaag
hov. The more actions your drama is the more people will continue to
visit this forum. Kuv saib mas yam le muaj ib tug pheej muaj ntsis
zaa tsiv tawm lawm ntshai yuav tau moog tshum pob tw kuas rov lug cug
ho. Uj sim, uj sim!!!
Post by Vaj Ncuab
Post by Xavzoo
Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
TseemYeej & Cwjmem;
May 1976, Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj, Maj. Muas Lauj thiab Lt. Nom Loob Vaj lawv ua team  rov Thaibteb los txog Phou Bia (Liaj Qhua ze Nam Yin). Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj txhij kiag tub rog tuaj khoom kiag Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj thiab khoos lub XOV TOOJ los rau Houei Ki Nin.  Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj hais rau Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj hais tias yawg Paj tso yij Nkias Xwm (Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj) nrog kuv mus lawm Nam Mo (Naj Mub) kuv yuav muab ib tug nyuj hu yawg plig.  Capt. Paj Kaub tsis kam, ob tug sib cav yuav sib tua.
Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj txhij tubrog kwv Kanoos 57 (57mm), kwv 60mm nce Roob tig phom rau Houei Ki Nin.  Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj los txhij tubrog thiab tig phom B-40 npaj tua Nam Mo.  Thaum no Lt. Col. Lis Neeb thiab Lauj Thoob nyob Pha Houei tuaj cheem Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj thiab Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj nkawd.  Lt. Col. Lis Neeb hais tias Tasseng Xaiv Suav thiab Capt. Paj Kaub neb heev meb mus tua Nyablaj nyob Phak Khet, nej heev neb mus tua Nyablaj nyob Roob Vaj Foom, Nyablaj twb tua tsis tag es neb tseem yuav rov sib tua.  Thaum kawg Lt. Col. Lis Neeb thiab Lauj Thoob nkawd cheem tau Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj & Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj.
Lt. Lauj Neeb uas yog Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj tus Nais Xaim ris lub Xovtooj khiav mus rau Phou He.  Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj txhij kiag 100 leej tubrog tuaj khoos kiag Lt. Lauj Neeb kom muab lub Xovtooj rau Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj.  Lt. Lauj Neeb ua tsis tau tes thiaj muab lub Xovtooj rau Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj ris mus rau Tham Lou tabsi Lt. Lauj Neeb muab cov Code pov tseg tag tsis qhia rau leej twg.  Thaum tsis paub cov Code lawm cov Naisxaim tsis muaj leej twg ntaus tau, txawm ntaus los Thaib (Udorn) tsis kam txais.
Vim yog tus Hmoob, November 1976 Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj & Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj nkawd kawg yuav tsum tau sib fim, zaum ua ke sablaj sib tham txog kev tiv thaiv lub teb lub chaws nyob Nam Mo.  Txawm li ntawd los cov Chao Fa (Xaiv Suav & Paj Kaub) tseem swb tus Pathet Lao.
Neb (TseemYeej & Cwjmem) puas muaj tus yam ntxwv zoo li Tasseng Xaiv Suav & Capt. Paj Kaub?  Neb puas paub hais tias neb sib ceg kis mus txog Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab, Tsevneeg Hmoob Vwj?  Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab & Tsevneeg Hmoob Vwj twb suffer txaus lawm, luag twb hais txaus lawm es neb tseem yuav hais thiab?  Yog yuav cem neb kuj cem Hmoob tus Yeebncuab, cem Nplogliab, cem Nyablaj liab, cem Chommaly Sayasone thiab cem Thongsing Thamavong.
TseemYeej & Cwjmem neb yog tib tug, taug tib txoj kev, yog xyom cuab thiab yeej nyob ua ke Merced, California los lawm.  Yog luag cem TseemYeej ntshai Cwjmem tseem yuav tiv thaiv, yog luag tsuj Cwjmem ntshai TseemYeej tseem yuav rub sawv.  Ua cas neb tseem kaj siab sib cav?  Neb puas paub hais tias tag neb lawm (tuag) los internet tseem yuav keep neb tej lus sib cav.  Neb puas paub hais tias Hmoob Canada, Hmoob Fabkis, Hmoob Australia, Hmoob Thaib, Hmoob Nploj, Hmoob Nyablaj & Hmoob Suav paub thiab paub neb tej lus sib cav sib ceg thiab sib rhuav no tag....
Kawg no thov neb tsum (stop).
Vajncuab 5
Mouatony
2012-09-20 23:43:56 UTC
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bawg Vaajncuab5,


Tej nuav miv miv le cas kom 2 tug ua le Chertong Vue, Chongkoua Vue
hab Chongneng Vang puab mas peb txhaj qhuas pob. Siv kub huv SCH nuav
xwb tshaav tsi tawm yij meem siv zug kom tawm plawg tim npoo ntuj.

Yij meem ntau pobtw kom siv siv zug le saib leej twg yog tug yeej xwb.

MT
toulia vang
2012-09-21 16:33:57 UTC
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Post by Mouatony
bawg Vaajncuab5,
Tej nuav miv miv le cas kom 2 tug ua le Chertong Vue, Chongkoua Vue
hab Chongneng Vang puab mas peb txhaj qhuas pob. Siv kub huv SCH nuav
xwb tshaav tsi tawm yij meem siv zug kom tawm plawg tim npoo ntuj.
Yij meem ntau pobtw kom siv siv zug le saib leej twg yog tug yeej xwb.
MT
Vajncuab5,

You are a real leader because of your concern of harmony, unity, and
synergy of all Hmong leaders in the US to produce forceful result for
Hmong Americans. Division, extreme polarization, and in-clan fighting
result in failure, suffering, and perpetual animosity.

I am with you to bring these two leaders in shaking hands and working
together for a greater cause. The past was a lesson and the future
must be a golden opportunity to move all Hmong-Americans forward.
Please learn from the Jewish people and their causes.

I hope that TY and Cwjmem are open to reconciliation. The Hmong causes
are bigger than their own tiny grudge. Big people know how to swallow
small and personal conflict. This is the time for real leadership.

TY and Cwjmem have received good education, have managed their own
successful life in California, and have emerged as assertive and
powerful leaders; let's hold both of them accountable for their own
act and urge them to accept real responsibikity and leadership.

The Hmong in the U.S. need both of them to advance our causes.

TL.
Xavzoo
2012-09-21 20:22:32 UTC
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Post by Mouatony
bawg Vaajncuab5,
Tej nuav miv miv le cas kom 2 tug ua le Chertong Vue, Chongkoua Vue
hab Chongneng Vang puab mas peb txhaj qhuas pob. Siv kub huv SCH nuav
xwb tshaav tsi tawm yij meem siv zug kom tawm plawg tim npoo ntuj.
Yij meem ntau pobtw kom siv siv zug le saib leej twg yog tug yeej xwb.
MT
Vajncuab5,
You are a real leader because of your concern of harmony, unity, and
synergy of all Hmong leaders in the US to produce forceful result for
Hmong Americans. Division, extreme polarization, and in-clan fighting
result in failure, suffering, and perpetual animosity.
I am with you to bring these two leaders in shaking hands and working
together for a greater cause. The past was a lesson and the future
must be a golden opportunity to move all Hmong-Americans forward.
Please learn from the Jewish people and their causes.
I hope that TY and Cwjmem are open to reconciliation. The Hmong causes
are bigger than their own tiny grudge. Big people know how to swallow
small and personal conflict. This is the time for real leadership.
TY and Cwjmem have received good education, have managed their own
successful life in California, and have emerged as assertive and
powerful leaders; let's hold both of them accountable for their own
act and urge them to accept real responsibikity and leadership.
The Hmong in the U.S. need both of them to advance our causes.
TL.
PY toulia vang,

Koj mas pom deb kawg thiab nawd...

Ntawm Vajncuab5 thiab koj yeej thoobtsib lawm, neb yeej xam pom cov
lus neb hais uantej neb hais, thiab neb tej ncaujlus hais tuav neb li
meejmom yog ib qho zoo. Tsob ntoo zoo yeej txi txiv zoo. Hmoob twb
ciajkhaub tav ntuj no lawm, cov tswvyim tsawg twb tos tos cov kawm
txuj thiab cov ntse tias yuav sawv los coj, tabsis peb tseem pom
sawvdaws nyiam sib kem ciam, sib txhaub kom sib tog kom muaj kev puas
tsuaj, thaum muaj kev puas tsuaj lawm yuav ua cawspliav ib txhis.

Lub tswvyim zoo, cov tub txawj yeej kawm tau lawm tabsis tsis tau paub
lub caij siv, los yog tsis paub siv, tsis tau yeem sim los txhawb
thiab daws tso yus tej kwvtij neejtsa thiab phoojywg.

Mloog feem coob tej lus hais mas tseem yuav rhuav kom Hmoob puas tsuaj
mus, tsis paub khauvxim li. Neb ob yawg siv tau nyog lawm nawb, ntxeem
tiag kom cov tuaj hauv no muaj kev ciasiab siv neb rau tomntej.

X Z
Mouatony
2012-09-21 20:54:10 UTC
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bawg Toulia Vang,


I am so condusing about your comment here.

( I am with you to bring these two leaders in shaking hands and
working
together for a greater cause. The past was a lesson and the future
must be a golden opportunity to move all Hmong-Americans forward.
Please learn from the Jewish people and their causes ).

THOSE TWO LEADERS, WHO ARE THEY and WHOM THEY WILL LEAD?. They are
just ordinary people and working day and night like everyone of us in
SCH here.

Thanks,

MT
TseemYeej
2012-09-21 21:12:42 UTC
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All friends and foes,

I sincerely appreciate your efforts for the reconciliation. But I beg all of you to be patient. There is a DISEASE raging around our Hmong society, we were so weak to kill it or quantize it. Look at PajCai Vwj, he rose up to fight against the French imperialists, they called him "CRAZY" and we accepted that term till now. Lyteck's case would be the same; the Lao civil war began with a global conflict called the cold war. Regionally, no choice, some of our Hmong sided with the Pathet Lao, some sided with the Royalists Lao. We, the Hmong LongCheng, worked under the CIA Secret War, a US founded under Royalist Lao. After a long fight, both sides decided to make peace, and in the sudden, all battles were halted, truces were signed, Yankees must go home. Everybody ran for their life, Lyteck was just a civilian officer, all he did was a humanity gesture while most of us were in total chaos, a running away car need a brake, right? We have to understand that no matter what, we took the wrong side and we lost it, period. And now Hmong call him a traitor. Is it fair? We need to kill that DISEASE of shifting blame to others.

If I am afraid of facing those false accusations, I would stay back in Laos and have a good life there like all my colleagues whom still work for the government or for the private sector. Many of my students, in the 75's-79's, are raising fast, one of them told me that he was invited to more than 60 countries for diplomatic relationships, quite impressive, isn't it? I would have the same privilege or even better if I decided to stay.

I believe that the reason the sky is clouded constantly because there is no thunder, soon as the thunder roars, the sky clears up right away. I decided to come to America, intending to prove that I am better than those ill minded Hmong people and I did it. No one can stop me, I am a real free man.

VajNcuab, in order to have a constructive DEBATE, as a brilliant elite like yourself should understand that there must be some rules to follow, the name CwjSoQuav should not be classified as real names like the whole TsevNeeg PajTsab. CwjMem or CwjSoQuav is just a fictitious name, tsis muaj qaib muaj qe hu plig, why should he act so emotional? While all the names mentioned from TsevNeeg PajTsab by him, are real. I never talk about his real or his family, even I sure know who he is. I am a cautious person, a mistake occurs I would admit and correct it right on the spot. Past or present, I never mention hostile act against him.

He declares resting the case many times and he didn't. He calls me a low class FLEA MARKET merchant. Did he know that lot of millionaires people have risen from being a dish washer or a cans collector? I am one of them, and now many of our Hmong fellows are following my family footsteps.

TseemYeej.
toulia vang
2012-09-29 00:54:55 UTC
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Post by Xavzoo
Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
TseemYeej & Cwjmem;
May 1976, Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj, Maj. Muas Lauj thiab Lt. Nom Loob Vaj lawv ua team  rov Thaibteb los txog Phou Bia (Liaj Qhua ze Nam Yin). Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj txhij kiag tub rog tuaj khoom kiag Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj thiab khoos lub XOV TOOJ los rau Houei Ki Nin.  Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj hais rau Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj hais tias yawg Paj tso yij Nkias Xwm (Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj) nrog kuv mus lawm Nam Mo (Naj Mub) kuv yuav muab ib tug nyuj hu yawg plig.  Capt. Paj Kaub tsis kam, ob tug sib cav yuav sib tua.
Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj txhij tubrog kwv Kanoos 57 (57mm), kwv 60mm nce Roob tig phom rau Houei Ki Nin.  Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj los txhij tubrog thiab tig phom B-40 npaj tua Nam Mo.  Thaum no Lt. Col. Lis Neeb thiab Lauj Thoob nyob Pha Houei tuaj cheem Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj thiab Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj nkawd.  Lt. Col. Lis Neeb hais tias Tasseng Xaiv Suav thiab Capt. Paj Kaub neb heev meb mus tua Nyablaj nyob Phak Khet, nej heev neb mus tua Nyablaj nyob Roob Vaj Foom, Nyablaj twb tua tsis tag es neb tseem yuav rov sib tua.  Thaum kawg Lt. Col. Lis Neeb thiab Lauj Thoob nkawd cheem tau Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj & Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj.
Lt. Lauj Neeb uas yog Capt. Nkias Xwm Vaj tus Nais Xaim ris lub Xovtooj khiav mus rau Phou He.  Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj txhij kiag 100 leej tubrog tuaj khoos kiag Lt. Lauj Neeb kom muab lub Xovtooj rau Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj.  Lt. Lauj Neeb ua tsis tau tes thiaj muab lub Xovtooj rau Maj. Zoov Zuag Hawj ris mus rau Tham Lou tabsi Lt. Lauj Neeb muab cov Code pov tseg tag tsis qhia rau leej twg.  Thaum tsis paub cov Code lawm cov Naisxaim tsis muaj leej twg ntaus tau, txawm ntaus los Thaib (Udorn) tsis kam txais.
Vim yog tus Hmoob, November 1976 Tasseng Xaiv Suav Yaj & Capt. Paj Kaub Hawj nkawd kawg yuav tsum tau sib fim, zaum ua ke sablaj sib tham txog kev tiv thaiv lub teb lub chaws nyob Nam Mo.  Txawm li ntawd los cov Chao Fa (Xaiv Suav & Paj Kaub) tseem swb tus Pathet Lao.
Neb (TseemYeej & Cwjmem) puas muaj tus yam ntxwv zoo li Tasseng Xaiv Suav & Capt. Paj Kaub?  Neb puas paub hais tias neb sib ceg kis mus txog Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab, Tsevneeg Hmoob Vwj?  Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab & Tsevneeg Hmoob Vwj twb suffer txaus lawm, luag twb hais txaus lawm es neb tseem yuav hais thiab?  Yog yuav cem neb kuj cem Hmoob tus Yeebncuab, cem Nplogliab, cem Nyablaj liab, cem Chommaly Sayasone thiab cem Thongsing Thamavong.
TseemYeej & Cwjmem neb yog tib tug, taug tib txoj kev, yog xyom cuab thiab yeej nyob ua ke Merced, California los lawm.  Yog luag cem TseemYeej ntshai Cwjmem tseem yuav tiv thaiv, yog luag tsuj Cwjmem ntshai TseemYeej tseem yuav rub sawv.  Ua cas neb tseem kaj siab sib cav?  Neb puas paub hais tias tag neb lawm (tuag) los internet tseem yuav keep neb tej lus sib cav.  Neb puas paub hais tias Hmoob Canada, Hmoob Fabkis, Hmoob Australia, Hmoob Thaib, Hmoob Nploj, Hmoob Nyablaj & Hmoob Suav paub thiab paub neb tej lus sib cav sib ceg thiab sib rhuav no tag....
Kawg no thov neb tsum (stop).
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Vajncuab 5:

Leej twg tua Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj thiab vim li cas Vwj Mais thiaj
ploj lawm? Cwj Mem puas hais qhia tau rau peb? Lawv puas txheeb Cwj
Mem thiab? Hnov tias Kawm Vwj txiv raug ntes thiab tua nyob Pham
Khao; puas muaj tseeb los cuav? Yog muaj tseeb vim li cas? Lawv qhia
tias
Cwj Mem kawm nrawv siab, tau MA thiab JD, puas muaj? thiab yawg tau
dej num zoo heev, puas muaj? Tseem hnov tias Cwj Mem ua neej muaj
txiag heev, puas muaj?


TL.
Vaj Ncuab
2012-09-20 10:49:46 UTC
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Post by Xavzoo
Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Unknown (Thornspear);



Koj lub tswv yim yeej zoo kawg yog hais tias TseemYeej & Cwjmem nkawd sib ceg nkawd ob tug kheej. Qhov tsis zoo mas yog thaum twg TseemYeej hais txog Cwjmem ces CwjSoquav, Cwjmem teb ces TseemYeej Lis Tub Paj Tsab - then mus hais Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab (Ly Teck) plig lawm. Cwjmem mas Hmoob tsis muaj tus paub txawm cem nce toj nqi hlav los tsis mob Cwj. Tabsi TseemYeej mas Hmoob paub yog Cwj hais ntaus yuav ua rau coob tug tos taub yuav kev.

Hmoob coob tug twb hais tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab txaus lawm, Cwj twb hais txaus lawm es koj tseem xav kom hais ntxiv thiab los tijlaug Unknown (Thonspear)? Summer tag los no kuv mus ua si rau Kitchener, Canada kuv ntsib cov neej tsa Lis Cuab coob tug, lawv tham tu siab kawg hais tias lawv tuaj rau Canada vim thaum nyob Thaibteb muaj ib cov Hmoob foob lawv rau Amelicas (Jerry H. Daniel) es lawv thiaj ua ib siab tuaj rau Canada lawm.

Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab tu siab txaus lawm, lawv tsis yog ua ntsuag teb ntsuag chaws xwb lawv tseem ua ntsuag kwv ntsuag tij, ntsuag neej nsuag tsav. Txaus lawm os mog tijlaug Thonspear.



Vajncuab 5
T***@yahoo.com
2012-09-22 01:30:29 UTC
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Vajncuab,

Koj xij txhawj txug ob tug lub koob dlaab tsi nas....Cwjsoquav is only
known in sch, Tou Paj Tsab is no a new term. Most people would
identify him as is, so in a positive view it is not bad at all. In
fact, he would probably be happy to have his name after his father.
As he had indicated in this forum many times, the more people talk
about Pajtsab tsev neeg the more they promote his family legacy, why
would you view it as bad? Kuv xaav has tas nwg yog ib qho good
advertisement rua Paj Tsab tsev neeg kuas tuab neeg paub puab lub koob
zoo xwb. Tag mas Tseem Yeej tseem yuav ntshai tseem yuav tau ua cov
kws xij tuav Paj Tsab lub npe tsaug.
Post by Vaj Ncuab
Post by Xavzoo
Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Unknown (Thornspear);
Koj lub tswv yim yeej zoo kawg yog hais tias TseemYeej & Cwjmem nkawd sib ceg nkawd ob tug kheej.  Qhov tsis zoo mas yog thaum twg TseemYeej hais txog Cwjmem ces CwjSoquav, Cwjmem teb ces TseemYeej Lis Tub Paj Tsab - then mus hais Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab (Ly Teck) plig lawm.  Cwjmem mas Hmoob tsis muaj tus paub txawm cem nce toj nqi hlav los tsis mob Cwj.  Tabsi TseemYeej mas Hmoob paub yog Cwj hais ntaus yuav ua rau coob tug tos taub yuav kev.
Hmoob coob tug twb hais tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab txaus lawm, Cwj twb hais txaus lawm es koj tseem xav kom hais ntxiv thiab los tijlaug Unknown (Thonspear)?  Summer tag los no kuv mus ua si rau Kitchener, Canada kuv ntsib cov neej tsa Lis Cuab coob tug, lawv tham tu siab kawg hais tias lawv tuaj rau Canada vim thaum nyob Thaibteb muaj ib cov Hmoob foob lawv rau Amelicas (Jerry H. Daniel) es lawv  thiaj ua ib siab tuaj rau Canada lawm.
Tsevneeg Lis Paj Tsab tu siab txaus lawm, lawv tsis yog ua ntsuag teb ntsuag chaws xwb lawv tseem ua ntsuag kwv ntsuag tij, ntsuag neej nsuag tsav.  Txaus lawm os mog tijlaug Thonspear.
Vajncuab 5
Y***@hotmail.com
2012-09-20 12:15:17 UTC
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Kuv haiv hmoob

Txawm yuav zoo li cas kawg nrog hmoob nyob, yeej mus nrog tsis tau lwm haiv neeg nyob li ntag, ntshe koj hos yog me nyuam tsaub los ntawm haiv neeg ntawd xwb lau.

zoov ntsuag nos
toulia vang
2012-09-20 23:04:18 UTC
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Kuv  haiv hmoob
Txawm yuav zoo li cas kawg nrog hmoob nyob, yeej mus nrog tsis tau lwm haiv neeg nyob li ntag, ntshe koj hos yog me nyuam tsaub los ntawm haiv neeg ntawd xwb lau.
zoov ntsuag nos
I second the points of Vaj Ncuab 5. Please help to stop the barking
and character assassination of these 2 Hmong LEADERS. They have
received decent education and have grown tremendous leadership and
civility but their process of thrashing each other has lasting affect
on others especially inocent Lee members and Vue's.

They can take their fight to the court room for a real settlement but
not in this forum before the public, which has been a low blow at all
time.

TL
y***@charter.net
2012-09-21 20:37:36 UTC
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Post by Xavzoo
Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Cov Yawg,
Peb Hmoob tsis zoo li lwm haiv neeg es yuav sib thov txim ces sib zam tau. Hmoob ces txawm yuav hais tau tias sib zam los qhov niag ntawd Hmoob yeej cia nraim hauv lub siab mus tas ib txhis. Qhov zoo ces sawv daws sib zam thaum hauv ntej mas zoo dua. Twb sib ceg muaj sib ceg txaus lawm txawm yuav zoo los yeej tsis tau lawm os...
Vaj Ncuab
2012-09-23 17:15:57 UTC
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Post by Xavzoo
Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Uncle TseemYeej;



Hmoob hais tias Hmoob tshuaj Hmoob rhaub, Suav tshuaj Suav rhaub, zoo tiag thov koj sau ua lus Hmoob txhob sau ua lus English. Vim lus Hmoob mas peb tus Hmoob thiab tus paub ntawv Hmoob thiaj twm tau, ntawv English mas txhua tus uas paub English twm tau. Txawm lis ntawd los ua koj tsaug rau koj cov lus teb.


Uncle Cwjmem;

Thov koj txhob teb Uncle TseemYeej ntxiv lawm, txawm Uncle TseemYeej yuav hais mob los yuav tsis raug koj thiab koj twb teb txaus hais txaus lawv yuav lis ntawd xwb. Kuv tau nrog Tshus Xeeb Vaj uas yog Lauj Pov Vaj (Stephen Vang) tijlaug Sing Vang (Sing Vang J.D.) tham txog Tasseng Xaiv Tuam Vwj tuag mas Tshus Xeeb Vaj hais tias thaum lawv tua Tasseng Xaiv Tuam Vwj mas koj tijlaug Xaiv Tsab Vwj quaj kawg. Tasseng Xaiv Tuam Vwj tuag tag los tsis tag 1969 Nyablaj ntaus Muang Soui, Uncle Zeb Vwj (Xaiv Tuam tus tub hlob) tseem raug Nyablaj ntes, 1971 Naiphom Vang Pao lawv rov mus ntaus Tiaj Rhawv Zeb lawv mam mus tso tau Uncle Zeb Vwj tawm.

Lawv thauj Uncle Zeb Vwj los rau Pha Khao, Uncle Soob Leej Vwj (Capt. Vwj Ntxawg Naikong Houei 5 of BG 206) nrog rau ib tug FAG Hmoob Vwj caij kiag davhlaus Helicopter (UH-1) Long Cheng mus Pha Khao mus ua ntaub ntawv tos Zeb Vwj los Long Cheng thiaj los khiav Taxi. Uncle TseemYeej thiab koj ces taug tij txoj kev os mog.



Vajncuab 5
nres
2012-09-24 09:25:10 UTC
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Kuv thov hais li no : kuv ok nrog vaj Ncuab thawj zaj lus thiab. Yav tas ces cia maub ua ib zaj Lesson cia xwb.

cia ua neej nrog hnub no " the prsent" thiab npaj yav tom ntej " the futur".

2 leeg rov lso sib tuav tes zoo dua yuav sib DOB , ua ua 2 leeg khaub hlab tag, yeej tsis tau dab tsi.

sib hais , sib tawm tswv yim (sib cav) mas zoo kawg, tiam sis sib ceg kom sib ntxub ces tsuas "rhuav xwb tsis muaj tsim"

Nres
Xavzoo
2012-09-24 12:55:02 UTC
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Kuv thov hais li no : kuv ok nrog vaj Ncuab thawj zaj lus thiab.  Yav tas ces cia maub ua ib zaj Lesson cia xwb.
cia ua neej nrog hnub no " the prsent" thiab npaj yav tom ntej " the futur".
2 leeg rov lso sib tuav tes zoo dua yuav sib DOB , ua ua 2 leeg khaub hlab tag, yeej tsis tau dab tsi.
sib hais , sib tawm tswv yim (sib cav) mas zoo kawg, tiam sis sib ceg kom sib ntxub ces tsuas "rhuav xwb tsis muaj tsim"
Nres
PY Nres aw..,

Nyobzoo os...Cas ntev ualuaj mam tuaj saib peb na...Koj hais yog kawg
lawm nawb, kuv pom zoo li koj hais thiab.

Cov pom zoo thiab cheem kom TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem nkawv tsum yog cov
me kwvtij Hmoob:

Vajncuab 5, Nres, XZ thiab ....?

X Z
toulia vang
2012-09-25 23:05:57 UTC
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Post by Xavzoo
Kuv thov hais li no : kuv ok nrog vaj Ncuab thawj zaj lus thiab.  Yav tas ces cia maub ua ib zaj Lesson cia xwb.
cia ua neej nrog hnub no " the prsent" thiab npaj yav tom ntej " the futur".
2 leeg rov lso sib tuav tes zoo dua yuav sib DOB , ua ua 2 leeg khaub hlab tag, yeej tsis tau dab tsi.
sib hais , sib tawm tswv yim (sib cav) mas zoo kawg, tiam sis sib ceg kom sib ntxub ces tsuas "rhuav xwb tsis muaj tsim"
Nres
PY Nres aw..,
Nyobzoo os...Cas ntev ualuaj mam tuaj saib peb na...Koj hais yog kawg
lawm nawb, kuv pom zoo li koj hais thiab.
Cov pom zoo thiab cheem kom TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem nkawv tsum yog cov
Vajncuab 5, Nres, XZ thiab ....?
X Z
Who is Cwj Mem? Is he related to Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj at Muong Sui
and Yis Vwj, who was a former USAID employee at Na Sou? We know who TY
is. TY asked for a decent debate and Cwj Mem needs to honor that
request. No attack to TY's family members and they deserve their
fundamental right, especially privacy. I applaud TY to refrain from
attacking Cwj Mem's relatives. Relatives of these two leaders are
inocent and their privacy have to be protected. You can take your
issues that are related or involved with them to the court of law but
not in this forum, plain and simple.

TL.
TXHEEVCOM
2012-09-25 23:48:38 UTC
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Post by toulia vang
Post by Xavzoo
Kuv thov hais li no : kuv ok nrog vaj Ncuab thawj zaj lus thiab.  Yav tas ces cia maub ua ib zaj Lesson cia xwb.
cia ua neej nrog hnub no " the prsent" thiab npaj yav tom ntej " the futur".
2 leeg rov lso sib tuav tes zoo dua yuav sib DOB , ua ua 2 leeg khaub hlab tag, yeej tsis tau dab tsi.
sib hais , sib tawm tswv yim (sib cav) mas zoo kawg, tiam sis sib ceg kom sib ntxub ces tsuas "rhuav xwb tsis muaj tsim"
Nres
PY Nres aw..,
Nyobzoo os...Cas ntev ualuaj mam tuaj saib peb na...Koj hais yog kawg
lawm nawb, kuv pom zoo li koj hais thiab.
Cov pom zoo thiab cheem kom TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem nkawv tsum yog cov
Vajncuab 5, Nres, XZ thiab ....?
X Z
Who is Cwj Mem? Is he related to Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj at Muong Sui
and Yis Vwj, who was a former USAID employee at Na Sou? We know who TY
is. TY asked for a decent debate and Cwj Mem needs to honor that
request. No attack to TY's family members and they deserve their
fundamental right, especially privacy. I applaud TY to refrain from
attacking Cwj Mem's relatives. Relatives of these two leaders are
inocent and their privacy have to be protected. You can take your
issues that are related or involved with them to the court of law but
not in this forum, plain and simple.
TL.
TL aw...koj twb yuav pab cheem no tsam no ho txawmsiv qhia kom mus tom court tuaj thiab...cov niag lusxaiv no es koj tseem yuav mus them 10 txhiab rau lawyers lod... it's pertinent.
toulia vang
2012-09-28 23:25:27 UTC
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Kuv thov hais li no : kuv ok nrog vaj Ncuab thawj zaj lus thiab.  Yav tas ces cia maub ua ib zaj Lesson cia xwb.
cia ua neej nrog hnub no " the prsent" thiab npaj yav tom ntej " the futur".
2 leeg rov lso sib tuav tes zoo dua yuav sib DOB , ua ua 2 leeg khaub hlab tag, yeej tsis tau dab tsi.
sib hais , sib tawm tswv yim (sib cav) mas zoo kawg, tiam sis sib ceg kom sib ntxub ces tsuas "rhuav xwb tsis muaj tsim"
Nres
PY Nres aw..,
Nyobzoo os...Cas ntev ualuaj mam tuaj saib peb na...Koj hais yog kawg
lawm nawb, kuv pom zoo li koj hais thiab.
Cov pom zoo thiab cheem kom TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem nkawv tsum yog cov
Vajncuab 5, Nres, XZ thiab ....?
X Z
Who is Cwj Mem? Is he related to Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj at Muong Sui
and Yis Vwj, who was a former USAID employee at Na Sou? We know who TY
is. TY asked for a decent debate and Cwj Mem needs to honor that
request. No attack to TY's family members and they deserve their
fundamental right, especially privacy. I applaud TY to refrain from
attacking Cwj Mem's relatives. Relatives of these two leaders are
inocent and their privacy have to be protected. You can take your
issues that are related or involved with them to the court of law but
not in this forum, plain and simple.
TL.
TL aw...koj twb yuav pab cheem no tsam no ho txawmsiv qhia kom mus tom court tuaj thiab...cov niag lusxaiv no es koj tseem yuav mus them 10 txhiab rau lawyers lod... it's pertinent.- Hide quoted text -
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TXHEEVCOM:

Leej twg tua Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj thiab vim li cas Vwj Mais thiaj
ploj lawm? Cwj Mem puas hais qhia tau rau peb? Lawv puas txheeb Cwj
Mem thiab? Hnov tias Kawm Vwj txiv raug ntes thiab tua nyob Pham
Khao,
puas muaj tseeb los cuav? Yog muaj tseeb vim li cas? Lawv qhia tias
Cwj Mem kawm nrawv siab, tau MA thiab JD, puas muaj? thiab yawg tau
dej num zoo heev, puas muaj? Tseem hnov tias Cwj Mem ua neej muaj
txiag heev, puas muaj?

TL.
TseemYeej
2012-09-27 22:24:16 UTC
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TouLia Vang,
Post by toulia vang
Who is Cwj Mem? Is he related to Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj at Muong Sui
and Yis Vwj, who was a former USAID employee at Na Sou? We know who TY
is. TY asked for a decent debate and Cwj Mem needs to honor that
request. No attack to TY's family members and they deserve their
fundamental right, especially privacy. I applaud TY to refrain from
attacking Cwj Mem's relatives.
-TseemKub yeej tsis ntshai TawsNtaiv, NeegNcaj yeej tsis ntshai LusXaiv.
-Dab thiaj ntshai duab ci, NeegPhem thiaj ntshai sib ti.

Nco ntsoo tias xob tsis nroo, ntuj yeej tsis ka ib zaug. Yog peb sawvdaws tsis sib pab tshem Hmoob twv fuab no tawm kom ploj mus, peb tseem yuav tos leej twg los tshem? Lub neej dhau los, twv fuab no ntxoo kuv ces koj nkaum zog, ntxoov koj ces kuv nkaum zog. Txhua lub POB CAUS, yeej muaj lub POB RHAUS, peb pheej ntshai ua tus tsi? Specially, cov ua muaj titles naj, tos thaum fuab laum yus lawm mam regret lov? Ua li VajNcuab piav txog qhov luag tua CwjSoQuav tsevneeg lawm mam ntsais muag dujdoom no lov? Tsam no tseem muaj phlus tig li cem kuv tsevneeg, RUAM tiag-g! RUAM li cov niag liab mag pob tawb es luag cev hlua soo ib tug zuj zus ntag. Luag soo tau tus loj ces tus loj daws zoj mus soo tus yau ntag. Ua li es yus yuav dim no lov?

-Ntev xyoo dhau los, kuv tus txiv ntxawm dr. Gary Yia tseem nrog lawv ua moj them nqag kab cem peb tsev PajTsab thiab ne, kuv thiaj hais rau nws tias kom nws nug kiag nws txiv seb leej twg cawm nws txiv thiaj dim tuaj rau Australia lawm? Nws mam regret thiab suab ntsiag txij hnub ntawd los. Nom los tsis tau nrog luag ua, tseem poob nyiaj ib cag thiab.

-Muaj ib hmo, hauv ib lub ntees tuag Sacramento, Kais Vwj cov muam ciali ncaj qha los, tus niam laus, ciali cem kuv taw tes ntshis tias: "Ntsej muag nyablaj liab, koj tseem tuaj txog ntawm ko ua tus tsi?". Neeg ntsia pliaj liab vog, kuv tseem tsis tau teb; nws tus niam hluas thiaj teb ntua tias: " Uaib...tais laus, koj yuav hais dab tsis li kod, koj puas paub tias peb khiav xub zoo xub tsuag, noj qos ncoom los tau ntau hli, peb nyuam qhuav rov tau noj thawj pluas mov nplej hauv Lis Tub lawv tsev laiv. Tsis tas li ntawd, kuv mob-b tsw nyoos ntxiag, nws tsis qias li, nws tsaws hlo kuv mus rau tom tsheb thiab muab nyiaj them nqi tsheb rau kuv mus LoosMaum, kuv thiaj ciaj sav. Tsis tas li ntawd, peb nrog lawb nyob txog thaum peb ua tau tsev peb mam tawm lawm, nws niam tseem pub noob qoob noob tsab rau peb tib si ne, koj puas nco qab lawm maj? Tus niam laus ua xyem xyav ces cia hais ib nyuag lo tias: "Auj...Thov txim os". Saib zoj ntsev nchuav lawm ces cia li tshawb hnyo lawm. Kuv luag nyuj nyav xwb, no hard feeling rau tej neeg low life li ntawd. Qhov tseeb tiag, pab neeg no, lawv khiav rog CobFab los, 1977, raug NyabLaj txhom tau rau sab NamTone, nyablaj thiaj hais los rau Muag Naxaithong, Muag mam hais ib tom los rau Muag PhoneHong, mam ho hais los rau peb TojXeem KM52, seb peb puas lav, yog tsis lav no lawv yuav muab xa rov rau MoosCab. Xav ntawm Hmoob neej Hmoob tsav TojXeem ToojXeeb Lauj thiaj lav pab neeg no. Thaum kawg tseem muaj tus rov taw tuam ntuj li no thiab ne.

Kuv tsuas pab raws lub luag uas kuv yog ib tug txiv neej yawg Hmoob yuav tsum tau ti thaiv yus hais neeg. Thaum ntawd, kuv tsis paub tias lawv yog leej twg, kuv tsis paub tias Kais Vwj yog leej twg, mam tuaj sib paub tebchaws no xwb.

Kuv ntseeg tias; TeebMeem muaj tshwm sim los rau sawvdaws daws, TeebMeem tsis yog muaj los ua sawvdaws chaw ntxhov siab thiab ntsim siab.


TseemYeej.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
2012-09-27 23:42:46 UTC
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TouLia Vang,
Post by toulia vang
Who is Cwj Mem? Is he related to Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj at Muong Sui
and Yis Vwj, who was a former USAID employee at Na Sou? We know who TY
is. TY asked for a decent debate and Cwj Mem needs to honor that
request. No attack to TY's family members and they deserve their
fundamental right, especially privacy. I applaud TY to refrain from
attacking Cwj Mem's relatives.
-TseemKub yeej tsis ntshai TawsNtaiv, NeegNcaj yeej tsis ntshai LusXaiv.
-Dab thiaj ntshai duab ci, NeegPhem thiaj ntshai sib ti.
Nco ntsoo tias xob tsis nroo, ntuj yeej tsis ka ib zaug. Yog peb sawvdaws tsis sib pab tshem Hmoob twv fuab no tawm kom ploj mus, peb tseem yuav tos leej twg los tshem? Lub neej dhau los, twv fuab no ntxoo kuv ces koj nkaum zog, ntxoov koj ces kuv nkaum zog. Txhua lub POB CAUS, yeej muaj lub POB RHAUS, peb pheej ntshai ua tus tsi? Specially, cov ua muaj titles naj, tos thaum fuab laum yus lawm mam regret lov? Ua li VajNcuab piav txog qhov luag tua CwjSoQuav tsevneeg lawm mam ntsais muag dujdoom no lov? Tsam no tseem muaj phlus tig li cem kuv tsevneeg, RUAM tiag-g! RUAM li cov niag liab mag pob tawb es luag cev hlua soo ib tug zuj zus ntag. Luag soo tau tus loj ces tus loj daws zoj mus soo tus yau ntag. Ua li es yus yuav dim no lov?
-Ntev xyoo dhau los, kuv tus txiv ntxawm dr. Gary Yia tseem nrog lawv ua moj them nqag kab cem peb tsev PajTsab thiab ne, kuv thiaj hais rau nws tias kom nws nug kiag nws txiv seb leej twg cawm nws txiv thiaj dim tuaj rau Australia lawm? Nws mam regret thiab suab ntsiag txij hnub ntawd los. Nom los tsis tau nrog luag ua, tseem poob nyiaj ib cag thiab.
-Muaj ib hmo, hauv ib lub ntees tuag Sacramento, Kais Vwj cov muam ciali ncaj qha los, tus niam laus, ciali cem kuv taw tes ntshis tias: "Ntsej muag nyablaj liab, koj tseem tuaj txog ntawm ko ua tus tsi?". Neeg ntsia pliaj liab vog, kuv tseem tsis tau teb; nws tus niam hluas thiaj teb ntua tias: " Uaib...tais laus, koj yuav hais dab tsis li kod, koj puas paub tias peb khiav xub zoo xub tsuag, noj qos ncoom los tau ntau hli, peb nyuam qhuav rov tau noj thawj pluas mov nplej hauv Lis Tub lawv tsev laiv. Tsis tas li ntawd, kuv mob-b tsw nyoos ntxiag, nws tsis qias li, nws tsaws hlo kuv mus rau tom tsheb thiab muab nyiaj them nqi tsheb rau kuv mus LoosMaum, kuv thiaj ciaj sav. Tsis tas li ntawd, peb nrog lawb nyob txog thaum peb ua tau tsev peb mam tawm lawm, nws niam tseem pub noob qoob noob tsab rau peb tib si ne, koj puas nco qab lawm maj? Tus niam laus ua xyem xyav ces cia hais ib nyuag lo tias: "Auj...Thov txim os". Saib zoj ntsev nchuav lawm ces cia li tshawb hnyo lawm. Kuv luag nyuj nyav xwb, no hard feeling rau tej neeg low life li ntawd. Qhov tseeb tiag, pab neeg no, lawv khiav rog CobFab los, 1977, raug NyabLaj txhom tau rau sab NamTone, nyablaj thiaj hais los rau Muag Naxaithong, Muag mam hais ib tom los rau Muag PhoneHong, mam ho hais los rau peb TojXeem KM52, seb peb puas lav, yog tsis lav no lawv yuav muab xa rov rau MoosCab. Xav ntawm Hmoob neej Hmoob tsav TojXeem ToojXeeb Lauj thiaj lav pab neeg no. Thaum kawg tseem muaj tus rov taw tuam ntuj li no thiab ne.
Kuv tsuas pab raws lub luag uas kuv yog ib tug txiv neej yawg Hmoob yuav tsum tau ti thaiv yus hais neeg. Thaum ntawd, kuv tsis paub tias lawv yog leej twg, kuv tsis paub tias Kais Vwj yog leej twg, mam tuaj sib paub tebchaws no xwb.
Kuv ntseeg tias; TeebMeem muaj tshwm sim los rau sawvdaws daws, TeebMeem tsis yog muaj los ua sawvdaws chaw ntxhov siab thiab ntsim siab.
TseemYeej.
yog lwm haiv neeg ua rau hmoob txom nyem quaj ntsuag mas yog li koj hais. tabsis raws kli hnov mas lis thek tseem yog tus ua rau hmoob quaj ntsuag xwb ces tsis yog li koj hais. tauv huab sdub tsaus ntawv twb yog lythek tsim rau hmoob xwb ne. hmoob taw tes cem koj thiab yog koj yeej tseem2 yog lis thek caj ces mas lawv cem yog lus kawg lawm. txawm yog huab tais tsev neeg los haj yam tsim nyog neeg cem thiab taw tes rau. zoo li huabtais blog tsev neeg nyob tim fabkis na. pom no ces cem thiab taw tes rau. kuv pom vdo hauv youtube hmoob tsev mus txhos caug pe tom kev thaum huabtais tsev neeg dhau kev. yog xav cem no ces mus cem taw tes rau cov hmoob ruam ntawd.
phwvnyawm
2012-09-28 01:08:15 UTC
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Post by idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
yog lwm haiv neeg ua rau hmoob txom nyem quaj ntsuag mas yog li koj hais. tabsis raws kli hnov mas lis thek tseem yog tus ua rau hmoob quaj ntsuag xwb ces tsis yog li koj hais. tauv huab sdub tsaus ntawv twb yog lythek tsim rau hmoob xwb ne. hmoob taw tes cem koj thiab yog koj yeej tseem2 yog lis thek caj ces mas lawv cem yog lus kawg lawm. txawm yog huab tais tsev neeg los haj yam tsim nyog neeg cem thiab taw tes rau. zoo li huabtais blog tsev neeg nyob tim fabkis na. pom no ces cem thiab taw tes rau. kuv pom vdo hauv youtube hmoob tsev mus txhos caug pe tom kev thaum huabtais tsev neeg dhau kev. yog xav cem no ces mus cem taw tes rau cov hmoob ruam ntawd.
Tau zoo nyob ces nyob twj ywm......Nab nyob Nab pheej thab-b Nab ces
ib pliag Nab ib khaug rau ces ntshai yuav MUAJ TSIS TUS lawm lauj.

Mob yus qhov twg ces nrhiav tshuaj qhwv twg.......khaus yus qhov twg
ces khawb qhov ntawd......tej lus hnov lawv hais,raws li hnov yus yuav
tau tsum,yog tsis paub qhov tseeb naj. Ib ntsis ces yuav khwv-v koj
kawg lauj.
j***@gmail.com
2012-09-28 17:38:18 UTC
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Yawg hlob idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู,
Post by idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
tauv huab sdub tsaus ntawv twb yog lythek tsim rau hmoob xwb ne. hmoob
taw tes cem koj thiab yog koj yeej tseem2 yog lis thek caj ces mas
lawv cem yog lus kawg lawm.
Koj lub npe yeej hu tau phim koj lub siab kawg kiag lawm nawb. Yog koj yuav cuab ua tus neeg "idonotknow" li ko no mas yuav tsum idonotknow kom ntxim luag HLUB thiab laiv. Yog yus hu yus ua "idonotknow" no mas, txhob ua tus txias tom neeg, yuav tsum cuab pob ntseg mloog 2 tog seb puas muaj ib hnub twg yus rais los ua tus neeg "idoknow" mas thiaj li nawb. Twb idonotknow tag los tseem "เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู"(rho taub haus mus tsoo phab ntsa hlau) li ko thiab ces kawg tag hauv rid lawm laud. Txhob xav li lub khob uas ntim dej puv-v lawm, yog xav li ces txhab tsis tau sugar, coffee thiab cream ntxiv lawm. Kawg tau haus dej tsuag xwb tsis qab dabtsili. Up to you!

Koj lam nrog lawv "ntov ntoo tsuam mos txhov" xwb, koj tsis yog Hmoob LoojCeeb, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub siab, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub tswv8 "rub tiab los npog quav".

Lyteck tsis yog Hmoob qhov teenmeem, nws twb tawm nws los nyob Vientiane ntev, xyoo 1968, lawm. Hmoob qhov teebmeem yog Hmoob cov thawj coj tsim tseg rau Hmoob ris. Lam qws-s tias mus tua nyablaj tom ThoobHaimHeem no xwb, lub siab tiag yog mus fuab luag nyuj, nyiag luag twm cab tsheej kab tsheej ke los LoojCeeb xwb ne. Cov ruam ces mus tiv mostxwv, cov ntse ces twb cab nyuj dhau dawm los lawm ne. Txhom tau tsawg tug Nplog los liam tias yog nyablaj ces cab luag mus tua tag rau tim PhaKhoa ne. Lub tebchaws yuav yeej thiab yuav swb, tsis vim yuav sau yus tej neeg mus tuag tag rau tom tshav rog. Lub tewbchaws yuav yeej yuav swb, tsis vim yuav hu dav hlaus ya npoj ntws ib tog ntuj tuaj pov bombs kom ntiajteb qw hais tias Nplogteb yog lub tebchaws uas raug bombs ntau tshaj WWII no. Thaum kawg, luag nom tswv twb signed Peace Treaty lawm los yus tseem xaj dav hlau mus tua Salaphoukhune thiab thiaj mag nom tswv muab hlob tawm ntag ne.

Tej no, tsis yog Lyteck li teebmeem, txawm nej niaj hnub pov quav rau nws los, nws tuag nws lawm, 35 xyoos dhau los yeej daws tsis tau Hmoob tus teebmeem ib qho li. Niaj hnub no, sawvdaws tseem haj yam ua plaub ntxhov quav pes niab qabteb ti qaumteb li ne.


Txhob qis muag ua neej lawm, yuav tsum ua neej rua muag pliav nawb.



TseemYeej.
toulia vang
2012-09-28 17:59:31 UTC
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Yawg hlob idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู,
On Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:42:46 PM UTC-7, idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู wrote:> tauv huab sdub tsaus ntawv twb yog lythek tsim rau hmoob xwb ne. hmoob
Post by idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
taw tes cem koj thiab yog koj yeej tseem2 yog lis thek caj ces mas
lawv cem yog lus kawg lawm.
Koj lub npe yeej hu tau phim koj lub siab kawg kiag lawm nawb. Yog koj yuav cuab ua tus neeg "idonotknow" li ko no mas yuav tsum idonotknow kom ntxim luag HLUB thiab laiv. Yog yus hu yus ua "idonotknow" no mas, txhob ua tus txias tom neeg, yuav tsum cuab pob ntseg mloog 2 tog seb puas muaj ib hnub twg yus rais los ua tus neeg "idoknow" mas thiaj li nawb. Twb idonotknow tag los tseem "เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู"(rho taub haus mus tsoo phab ntsa hlau) li ko thiab ces kawg tag hauv rid lawm laud. Txhob xav li lub khob uas ntim dej puv-v lawm, yog xav li ces txhab tsis tau sugar, coffee thiab cream ntxiv lawm. Kawg tau haus dej tsuag xwb tsis qab dabtsili. Up to you!
Koj lam nrog lawv "ntov ntoo tsuam mos txhov" xwb, koj tsis yog Hmoob LoojCeeb, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub siab, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub tswv8 "rub tiab los npog quav".
Lyteck tsis yog Hmoob qhov teenmeem, nws twb tawm nws los nyob Vientiane ntev, xyoo 1968, lawm. Hmoob qhov teebmeem yog Hmoob cov thawj coj tsim tseg rau Hmoob ris. Lam qws-s tias mus tua nyablaj tom ThoobHaimHeem no xwb, lub siab tiag yog mus fuab luag nyuj, nyiag luag twm cab tsheej kab tsheej ke los LoojCeeb xwb ne. Cov ruam ces mus tiv mostxwv, cov ntse ces twb cab nyuj dhau dawm los lawm ne. Txhom tau tsawg tug Nplog los liam tias yog nyablaj ces cab luag mus tua tag rau tim PhaKhoa ne. Lub tebchaws yuav yeej thiab yuav swb, tsis vim yuav sau yus tej neeg mus tuag tag rau tom tshav rog. Lub tewbchaws yuav yeej yuav swb, tsis vim yuav hu dav hlaus ya npoj ntws ib tog ntuj tuaj pov bombs kom ntiajteb qw hais tias Nplogteb yog lub tebchaws uas raug bombs ntau tshaj WWII no. Thaum kawg, luag nom tswv twb signed Peace Treaty lawm los yus tseem xaj dav hlau mus tua Salaphoukhune thiab thiaj mag nom tswv muab hlob tawm ntag ne.
Tej no, tsis yog Lyteck li teebmeem, txawm nej niaj hnub pov quav rau nws los, nws tuag nws lawm, 35 xyoos dhau los yeej daws tsis tau Hmoob tus teebmeem ib qho li. Niaj hnub no, sawvdaws tseem haj yam ua plaub ntxhov quav pes niab qabteb ti qaumteb li ne.
Txhob qis muag ua neej lawm, yuav tsum ua neej rua muag pliav nawb.
TseemYeej.
Leej twg tua Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj thiab vim li cas Vwj Mais thiaj
ploj lawm? Cwj Mem puas hais qhia tau rau peb? Lawv puas txheeb Cwj
Mem thiab? Hnov tias Kawm Vwj txiv raug ntes thiab tua nyob Pham Khao,
puas muaj tseeb los cuav? Yog muaj tseeb vim li cas? Lawv qhia tias
Cwj Mem kawm nrawv siab, tau MA thiab JD, puas muaj? thiab yawg tau
dej num zoo heev, puas muaj? Tseem hnov tias Cwj Mem ua neej muaj
txiag heev, puas muaj?

TL.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
2012-09-28 21:51:13 UTC
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Yawg hlob idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู,
Post by idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
tauv huab sdub tsaus ntawv twb yog lythek tsim rau hmoob xwb ne. hmoob
taw tes cem koj thiab yog koj yeej tseem2 yog lis thek caj ces mas
lawv cem yog lus kawg lawm.
Koj lub npe yeej hu tau phim koj lub siab kawg kiag lawm nawb. Yog koj yuav cuab ua tus neeg "idonotknow" li ko no mas yuav tsum idonotknow kom ntxim luag HLUB thiab laiv. Yog yus hu yus ua "idonotknow" no mas, txhob ua tus txias tom neeg, yuav tsum cuab pob ntseg mloog 2 tog seb puas muaj ib hnub twg yus rais los ua tus neeg "idoknow" mas thiaj li nawb. Twb idonotknow tag los tseem "เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู"(rho taub haus mus tsoo phab ntsa hlau) li ko thiab ces kawg tag hauv rid lawm laud. Txhob xav li lub khob uas ntim dej puv-v lawm, yog xav li ces txhab tsis tau sugar, coffee thiab cream ntxiv lawm. Kawg tau haus dej tsuag xwb tsis qab dabtsili. Up to you!
Koj lam nrog lawv "ntov ntoo tsuam mos txhov" xwb, koj tsis yog Hmoob LoojCeeb, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub siab, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub tswv8 "rub tiab los npog quav".
Lyteck tsis yog Hmoob qhov teenmeem, nws twb tawm nws los nyob Vientiane ntev, xyoo 1968, lawm. Hmoob qhov teebmeem yog Hmoob cov thawj coj tsim tseg rau Hmoob ris. Lam qws-s tias mus tua nyablaj tom ThoobHaimHeem no xwb, lub siab tiag yog mus fuab luag nyuj, nyiag luag twm cab tsheej kab tsheej ke los LoojCeeb xwb ne. Cov ruam ces mus tiv mostxwv, cov ntse ces twb cab nyuj dhau dawm los lawm ne. Txhom tau tsawg tug Nplog los liam tias yog nyablaj ces cab luag mus tua tag rau tim PhaKhoa ne. Lub tebchaws yuav yeej thiab yuav swb, tsis vim yuav sau yus tej neeg mus tuag tag rau tom tshav rog. Lub tewbchaws yuav yeej yuav swb, tsis vim yuav hu dav hlaus ya npoj ntws ib tog ntuj tuaj pov bombs kom ntiajteb qw hais tias Nplogteb yog lub tebchaws uas raug bombs ntau tshaj WWII no. Thaum kawg, luag nom tswv twb signed Peace Treaty lawm los yus tseem xaj dav hlau mus tua Salaphoukhune thiab thiaj mag nom tswv muab hlob tawm ntag ne.
Tej no, tsis yog Lyteck li teebmeem, txawm nej niaj hnub pov quav rau nws los, nws tuag nws lawm, 35 xyoos dhau los yeej daws tsis tau Hmoob tus teebmeem ib qho li. Niaj hnub no, sawvdaws tseem haj yam ua plaub ntxhov quav pes niab qabteb ti qaumteb li ne.
Txhob qis muag ua neej lawm, yuav tsum ua neej rua muag pliav nawb.
TseemYeej.
nyaj yuav yog li koj hais tabsis txog thaum tej tug pojniam hmoob xwb los cia li sawv tsees los cem taw tes nki rau ib tug txiv neej cem cem taw tes tias tsom tom myablaj no ces nyaj nws yuav muaj tim khawv thiab mob siab txaus txaus lawm. yog tsis txaus siab kuj coj tus poj niam ntawd mus hais 4 xwb. yog lawv cem cem tas los nws nyob nws cem 1 yog siab ntev txaus. 2 ces yog cov lus cem muaj yam puav tseeb li hais lawm tiag. tsis muakj yam 3. 4. los 5. li lawm kawg rau 2 yam kuv hais ntawd xwb.
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tauv huab sdub tsaus ntawv twb yog lythek tsim rau hmoob xwb ne. hmoob
taw tes cem koj thiab yog koj yeej tseem2 yog lis thek caj ces mas
lawv cem yog lus kawg lawm.
Koj lub npe yeej hu tau phim koj lub siab kawg kiag lawm nawb. Yog koj yuav cuab ua tus neeg "idonotknow" li ko no mas yuav tsum idonotknow kom ntxim luag HLUB thiab laiv. Yog yus hu yus ua "idonotknow" no mas, txhob ua tus txias tom neeg, yuav tsum cuab pob ntseg mloog 2 tog seb puas muaj ib hnub twg yus rais los ua tus neeg "idoknow" mas thiaj li nawb. Twb idonotknow tag los tseem "เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู"(rho taub haus mus tsoo phab ntsa hlau) li ko thiab ces kawg tag hauv rid lawm laud. Txhob xav li lub khob uas ntim dej puv-v lawm, yog xav li ces txhab tsis tau sugar, coffee thiab cream ntxiv lawm. Kawg tau haus dej tsuag xwb tsis qab dabtsili. Up to you!
Koj lam nrog lawv "ntov ntoo tsuam mos txhov" xwb, koj tsis yog Hmoob LoojCeeb, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub siab, koj tsis paub Hmoob LoojCeeb lub tswv8 "rub tiab los npog quav".
Lyteck tsis yog Hmoob qhov teenmeem, nws twb tawm nws los nyob Vientiane ntev, xyoo 1968, lawm. Hmoob qhov teebmeem yog Hmoob cov thawj coj tsim tseg rau Hmoob ris. Lam qws-s tias mus tua nyablaj tom ThoobHaimHeem no xwb, lub siab tiag yog mus fuab luag nyuj, nyiag luag twm cab tsheej kab tsheej ke los LoojCeeb xwb ne. Cov ruam ces mus tiv mostxwv, cov ntse ces twb cab nyuj dhau dawm los lawm ne. Txhom tau tsawg tug Nplog los liam tias yog nyablaj ces cab luag mus tua tag rau tim PhaKhoa ne. Lub tebchaws yuav yeej thiab yuav swb, tsis vim yuav sau yus tej neeg mus tuag tag rau tom tshav rog. Lub tewbchaws yuav yeej yuav swb, tsis vim yuav hu dav hlaus ya npoj ntws ib tog ntuj tuaj pov bombs kom ntiajteb qw hais tias Nplogteb yog lub tebchaws uas raug bombs ntau tshaj WWII no. Thaum kawg, luag nom tswv twb signed Peace Treaty lawm los yus tseem xaj dav hlau mus tua Salaphoukhune thiab thiaj mag nom tswv muab hlob tawm ntag ne.
Tej no, tsis yog Lyteck li teebmeem, txawm nej niaj hnub pov quav rau nws los, nws tuag nws lawm, 35 xyoos dhau los yeej daws tsis tau Hmoob tus teebmeem ib qho li. Niaj hnub no, sawvdaws tseem haj yam ua plaub ntxhov quav pes niab qabteb ti qaumteb li ne.
Txhob qis muag ua neej lawm, yuav tsum ua neej rua muag pliav nawb.
TseemYeej.
nyaj yuav yog li koj hais tabsis txog thaum tej tug pojniam hmoob xwb los cia li sawv tsees los cem taw tes nki rau ib tug txiv neej cem cem taw tes tias tsom tom myablaj no ces nyaj nws yuav muaj tim khawv thiab mob siab txaus txaus lawm. yog tsis txaus siab kuj coj tus poj niam ntawd mus hais 4 xwb. yog lawv cem cem tas los nws nyob nws cem 1 yog siab ntev txaus. 2 ces yog cov lus cem muaj yam puav tseeb li hais lawm tiag. tsis muakj yam 3. 4. los 5. li lawm kawg rau 2 yam kuv hais ntawd xwb.
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idonotknow:

Leej twg tua Toj Xeem Xaiv Tuam Vwj thiab vim li cas Vwj Mais thiaj
ploj lawm? Cwj Mem puas hais qhia tau rau peb? Lawv puas txheeb Cwj
Mem thiab? Hnov tias Kawm Vwj txiv raug ntes thiab tua nyob Pham
Khao,
puas muaj tseeb los cuav? Yog muaj tseeb vim li cas? Lawv qhia tias
Cwj Mem kawm nrawv siab, tau MA thiab JD, puas muaj? thiab yawg tau
dej num zoo heev, puas muaj? Tseem hnov tias Cwj Mem ua neej muaj
txiag heev, puas muaj?

TL.
TseemYeej
2012-09-28 23:38:52 UTC
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idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู,
nyaj yuav yog li koj hais tabsis....
Kuv yuav tsis yuam kom koj tuaj kuv tog. Yog tias koj tseem muaj lo lus "tabsis" thiab no los koj kavtsij ev koj lub zoo npe "idonotknow" mus es xwv thiaj yuav tau "เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู" os. Dev yeej yeem noj qua, Npuas yeej yeem noj xua, nyias yeem nyias ne.
txog thaum tej tug pojniam hmoob xwb
los cia li sawv tsees los cem taw tes nki rau ib tug txiv neej cem cem
taw tes tias tsom tom myablaj no ces nyaj nws yuav muaj tim khawv thiab
mob siab txaus txaus lawm. yog tsis txaus siab kuj coj tus poj niam
ntawd mus hais 4 xwb.
Yog tus neeg ntawv kam cem kuv thaum nws tabtom yuav noj kuv mov, log yog, xum yoo kom tuag mus li ntag, yeej tsis nyoo noj kuv mov li no mas kuv yeej qhuas tias nws chim siab txaus lawm tiag. Tabsis yog los tib cov tuag tshaib ntuas thiab khaub hlab ntsuav es los noj kuv mov tag, hnav kuv li khaub ncaws tag mam dim tuaj lawm es mam cem kuv tom qab no ces kuv hu nws ua neeg "rov taw tuam ntuj" lawm no ov.

By the way, ua ntej lawv yuav los tshwm rau ton khaib NyabLej, lawv txiv los tsis taus lawm, lawv ciali muab lawv "txiv" tso tseg tom hav zoo, lawv txiv tsis tau tuag. Thaum lawv los sov hauv kuv tsev, lawv thiaj tham rau kuv mloog, kuv twb lav tias, yog lawv kam coj kuv rov mus nrhiav no ces kuv tuaj yeem mus ua ntaub ntawv thiab thov neeg nrog peb mus nrhiav. Lawv tsis kam mus li ne.

Li no es, kuv tseem txhaum thiab lov? Lawv yeej tsis txheeb kuv ces qab los ces tes li nawb. Kuv tsuas xav tias zoo phem los yog yus cov Hmoob, thaum tau kev txom nyem, yus tsum tau pab no xwb. Tsis tas li ntawd, lawv muaj 3-4 tug viv ncaus diam, kuv xav ua phem rau tus twg los ywj xaiv, vim lawv tsis muaj txiv. Kuv yeej tsis xav txog qhov ntawd, kuv saib lawv li yog kuv cov muam xwb.


Cov neeg cem-m kuv mas yog lawv ua tsis tau qhov zoo npaum li kuv ua xwb. Kuv yeej pab tau neeg tsheej txhiab-b tus los lawm.

-TseemKub yeej tsis ntshai TawsNtaiv, NeegNcaj yeej tsis ntshai LusXaiv.
-Dab thiaj ntshai duab ci, NeegPhem thiaj ntshai sib ti.


TseemYeej.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
2012-09-29 02:22:50 UTC
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idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู,
nyaj yuav yog li koj hais tabsis....
Kuv yuav tsis yuam kom koj tuaj kuv tog. Yog tias koj tseem muaj lo lus "tabsis" thiab no los koj kavtsij ev koj lub zoo npe "idonotknow" mus es xwv thiaj yuav tau "เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู" os. Dev yeej yeem noj qua, Npuas yeej yeem noj xua, nyias yeem nyias ne.
yog laud nyias yeem nyias ces kaj tsij sib tog tiag seb thaum kawg zoo li cas. nws ib kaug rau koj thiab cem2 taw tes nki los koj kuj ib kaug rau nws cem2 taw tes nki rau nws kom sib phim kiag ntag. hos kuv ces mam pw zoo nov tuaj deb deb pe
TXHEEVCOM
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idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู,
nyaj yuav yog li koj hais tabsis....
Kuv yuav tsis yuam kom koj tuaj kuv tog. Yog tias koj tseem muaj lo lus "tabsis" thiab no los koj kavtsij ev koj lub zoo npe "idonotknow" mus es xwv thiaj yuav tau "เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู" os. Dev yeej yeem noj qua, Npuas yeej yeem noj xua, nyias yeem nyias ne.
txog thaum tej tug pojniam hmoob xwb
los cia li sawv tsees los cem taw tes nki rau ib tug txiv neej cem cem
taw tes tias tsom tom myablaj no ces nyaj nws yuav muaj tim khawv thiab
mob siab txaus txaus lawm. yog tsis txaus siab kuj coj tus poj niam
ntawd mus hais 4 xwb.
Yog tus neeg ntawv kam cem kuv thaum nws tabtom yuav noj kuv mov, log yog, xum yoo kom tuag mus li ntag, yeej tsis nyoo noj kuv mov li no mas kuv yeej qhuas tias nws chim siab txaus lawm tiag. Tabsis yog los tib cov tuag tshaib ntuas thiab khaub hlab ntsuav es los noj kuv mov tag, hnav kuv li khaub ncaws tag mam dim tuaj lawm es mam cem kuv tom qab no ces kuv hu nws ua neeg "rov taw tuam ntuj" lawm no ov.
By the way, ua ntej lawv yuav los tshwm rau ton khaib NyabLej, lawv txiv los tsis taus lawm, lawv ciali muab lawv "txiv" tso tseg tom hav zoo, lawv txiv tsis tau tuag. Thaum lawv los sov hauv kuv tsev, lawv thiaj tham rau kuv mloog, kuv twb lav tias, yog lawv kam coj kuv rov mus nrhiav no ces kuv tuaj yeem mus ua ntaub ntawv thiab thov neeg nrog peb mus nrhiav. Lawv tsis kam mus li ne.
Li no es, kuv tseem txhaum thiab lov? Lawv yeej tsis txheeb kuv ces qab los ces tes li nawb. Kuv tsuas xav tias zoo phem los yog yus cov Hmoob, thaum tau kev txom nyem, yus tsum tau pab no xwb. Tsis tas li ntawd, lawv muaj 3-4 tug viv ncaus diam, kuv xav ua phem rau tus twg los ywj xaiv, vim lawv tsis muaj txiv. Kuv yeej tsis xav txog qhov ntawd, kuv saib lawv li yog kuv cov muam xwb.
Cov neeg cem-m kuv mas yog lawv ua tsis tau qhov zoo npaum li kuv ua xwb. Kuv yeej pab tau neeg tsheej txhiab-b tus los lawm.
-TseemKub yeej tsis ntshai TawsNtaiv, NeegNcaj yeej tsis ntshai LusXaiv.
-Dab thiaj ntshai duab ci, NeegPhem thiaj ntshai sib ti.
TseemYeej.
Yawg Tseemyeej, lub sijhawm ntawd...koj txoj haujlwm yog dabtsi...koj ho muaj peevxwm mus lav tau neeg thiab pab lawv dim ntawd tus nyablaj los????? KUv tus bawg Tooj Xeeb Lauj thiab nws tus tub Nruas Pov Lauj yog lawm koj dablaug thiab yawmtxiv puas yog????
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2012-10-02 00:08:47 UTC
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Txheevcom thiab Idonotknow,

Koj tseem yuav nug dab tsi li koj nas. Noob Paj Tsab twb hais meej meej tias nws yog ib tug txiv neej yawg xwb no ne. Nws khav tias nws pab tau Hmoob txhiab txhiaj tus los lawm no. Proof nyob qhov twg? Nej sim rov mus twm nws cov lus saib. Nws hais tias nws pab tau 3-4 tug viv caus xwb no laiv ha.ha.ha. Qhov nws pab ntawd ces txawm yog nws muab nws qhov txiv neej yawg siv 3-4 tug viv ncaus no xwb ntag los mas. Nws ces tsuas txawj pab cov pojniam xwb ov. Tus pab pab neeg cobfab ntawd yog toj xeem Tooj Xeeb Lauj xwb nawb.

Tus neeg zoo li tus noob Paj Tsab no ces nej mloog nws cov lus xwb ces twb paub thiab twv tau tias nws yog ib tug neeg zoo li cas lawm los mas. Nws khav rau Cwjmem tias nws yog ib tus millionaire. Quav dev, nws tsuas muaj ib lub nyuag me nyuam oriental grocery store xwb. Tus los cheem tus pojniam Hmoob cem nws hauv tsev txias ntawd los yog ib tug pojniam thiab xwb uh ha. Nws cov pov thawj hais lus qhuas nws ces yog nws tib cov qub pojniam thaum ub nws tau muab siv siv los lawm xwb ha..ha..ha... Ib tug neeg hais lus tseeb es siv pojniam ua pov thawj xwb lov.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
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Txheevcom thiab Idonotknow,
Koj tseem yuav nug dab tsi li koj nas. Noob Paj Tsab twb hais meej meej tias nws yog ib tug txiv neej yawg xwb no ne. Nws khav tias nws pab tau Hmoob txhiab txhiaj tus los lawm no. Proof nyob qhov twg? Nej sim rov mus twm nws cov lus saib. Nws hais tias nws pab tau 3-4 tug viv caus xwb no laiv ha.ha.ha. Qhov nws pab ntawd ces txawm yog nws muab nws qhov txiv neej yawg siv 3-4 tug viv ncaus no xwb ntag los mas. Nws ces tsuas txawj pab cov pojniam xwb ov. Tus pab pab neeg cobfab ntawd yog toj xeem Tooj Xeeb Lauj xwb nawb.
Tus neeg zoo li tus noob Paj Tsab no ces nej mloog nws cov lus xwb ces twb paub thiab twv tau tias nws yog ib tug neeg zoo li cas lawm los mas. Nws khav rau Cwjmem tias nws yog ib tus millionaire. Quav dev, nws tsuas muaj ib lub nyuag me nyuam oriental grocery store xwb. Tus los cheem tus pojniam Hmoob cem nws hauv tsev txias ntawd los yog ib tug pojniam thiab xwb uh ha. Nws cov pov thawj hais lus qhuas nws ces yog nws tib cov qub pojniam thaum ub nws tau muab siv siv los lawm xwb ha..ha..ha... Ib tug neeg hais lus tseeb es siv pojniam ua pov thawj xwb lov.
nws yuav pab tau txhiab tau pua tus neeg tsis muaj peb leej twg pom thiab ua pov thawj tau nyaj yuav tshuav lub ntuj daim av nyaj nkawd yuav pom lawm. yog leej twg yuav siv nkawd ua pov thawj los hos mus nug nkawd. tsam no nkawd tseem nyob nkawd qhov qub mas. hos kuv ces mus pw qoos qoos lawm xwb ces nyias mam cav nyias.
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2012-10-02 17:28:54 UTC
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Yawg hlob TXHEEVCOM,
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Yawg Tseemyeej, lub sijhawm ntawd...koj txoj haujlwm yog dabtsi...koj
ho muaj peevxwm mus lav tau neeg thiab pab lawv dim ntawd tus nyablaj
los???? KUv tus bawg Tooj Xeeb Lauj thiab nws tus tub Nruas Pov Lauj
yog lawm koj dablaug thiab yawmtxiv puas yog????
Cov neeg tuaj nyeej peb cov lus sib cav hauv no, muaj txog 466 leej, pretty high. Peb cov sau sib teb muaj 58 zaus, muaj 2-3 leeg oppose kuv cov lus, it's not that bad. Tso quav nruab nqhuab los yeej yuav txhaum, tso quav nruab deg los yeej yuav txhaum. In this world, nothing is TRUE, nothing is PERMANENT and nothing is PERFECT. Yog tsis muaj neeg thuam lawm ces yus kuj tsis muaj nuj nqis lawm thiab. Tsob ntoo twg, yog cua tshuab tsis nti ces, tsob ntoo ntawd yeej tuag lawm. I love being criticized, so I can see what to improve myself. As I said " Txhua yam TEEB MEEM yog muaj cia rau yus DAWS, tsis yog muaj los ua yus chaw NYUAB SIAB".

ToojXeeb thiab PovNruas nkawd, yuav hu ua yawmyij los tau, yawmtxiv los tau, dablaug los tau. Nkawd puavleej yuav peb muam, peb tsevneeg los yuav nkawd muam thiab ntxhais.

Koj rov mus nyeem dua, kuv yeej hais meej tias yog peb TojXeem km52, ToojXeeb Lauj, mus lav los no laiv. Kuv tsis tau hais tias yog kuv tus kheej mus lav tom Naxaithong los. Thaum los txog KM52 lawm, peb mam mus sib zeem thiab coj los so, hnub puav kom lawv ua tau tsev, lawv mam tawm mus nyob lawv.

Tus phem ces muaj li kuv hais los saud, tabsis, kuj muaj tus zoo thiab. Muaj 1 pab yog dablaug SUAV LAUJ VAJ lawv pab txiv tub, Hmoob NajNyoos. Pab no, coob heev, kuv tijlaug TwvYeej thiaj coj mus nyob tim nws daim teb lawm. Tuaj txog tebchaws no, uantej nws yuav tsos sawvdaws tseg, nws yeej xaj lus cia tias, luag tej txawm yuav hais licas los chawj, kom nws tsevneeg tsis txhob nrog luag hais, lawv dim txoj kev tuag yog vim muaj peb pab lawv.

Koj nug seb kuv ua haujlwm dabtsi? Xyov koj nug phem los nug zoo, tabsis, kuv yuav teb koj tias kuv ua haujlwm qhia ntawv nyob Muag PhoneHong. Thaum nom tswv nthuav kev kawm kom dav. Lawv thiaj pon zoo xa kuv los tuav 2 lub Mathanyom tshiab nyob rau 2 tug tojxeem, Km52 & PhoneSoung. Kuv yog tus los tsim tsa lub 2 lub tsev kawm ntawv no ntag. Tam sim no, lub nram PhoneSoung raug kaw lawm, tabsis lub nyob Km52 yeej tseem functioning fully. Cov XibFwb tseem qhia ntawv hauv yog kuv cov tub kawm tag xwb.

Txhua tus leej tib neeg yuav tsum muaj lub CEV thiab lub SIAB thiaj tsheej tau neeg. Neeg lub CEV yog tus QHEV, neeg lub SIAB yog tus THAWJ. Lub ces tsis muaj teebmeem, tabsis, neeg lub SIAB txawj lem. Nws muaj qhov SIAB NCAJ thiab qhov SIAB NKHAUS. Yog li no, txawm yus hais ncaj npaum twg los, yeej yuav muaj tus hais NKHAUS cees rov tuaj. Yog yus ho cuab NKHAUS, los yeej yuav muaj tus hais NCAJ tuaj.

Yog muab kuv sob lus kawg no los ua guideline ces yeej paub leej twg yog leej twg lawm.



TseemYeej.
TXHEEVCOM
2012-10-02 18:43:59 UTC
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Yawg hlob TXHEEVCOM,
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Yawg Tseemyeej, lub sijhawm ntawd...koj txoj haujlwm yog dabtsi...koj
ho muaj peevxwm mus lav tau neeg thiab pab lawv dim ntawd tus nyablaj
los???? KUv tus bawg Tooj Xeeb Lauj thiab nws tus tub Nruas Pov Lauj
yog lawm koj dablaug thiab yawmtxiv puas yog????
Cov neeg tuaj nyeej peb cov lus sib cav hauv no, muaj txog 466 leej, pretty high. Peb cov sau sib teb muaj 58 zaus, muaj 2-3 leeg oppose kuv cov lus, it's not that bad. Tso quav nruab nqhuab los yeej yuav txhaum, tso quav nruab deg los yeej yuav txhaum. In this world, nothing is TRUE, nothing is PERMANENT and nothing is PERFECT. Yog tsis muaj neeg thuam lawm ces yus kuj tsis muaj nuj nqis lawm thiab. Tsob ntoo twg, yog cua tshuab tsis nti ces, tsob ntoo ntawd yeej tuag lawm. I love being criticized, so I can see what to improve myself. As I said " Txhua yam TEEB MEEM yog muaj cia rau yus DAWS, tsis yog muaj los ua yus chaw NYUAB SIAB".
ToojXeeb thiab PovNruas nkawd, yuav hu ua yawmyij los tau, yawmtxiv los tau, dablaug los tau. Nkawd puavleej yuav peb muam, peb tsevneeg los yuav nkawd muam thiab ntxhais.
Koj rov mus nyeem dua, kuv yeej hais meej tias yog peb TojXeem km52, ToojXeeb Lauj, mus lav los no laiv. Kuv tsis tau hais tias yog kuv tus kheej mus lav tom Naxaithong los. Thaum los txog KM52 lawm, peb mam mus sib zeem thiab coj los so, hnub puav kom lawv ua tau tsev, lawv mam tawm mus nyob lawv.
Tus phem ces muaj li kuv hais los saud, tabsis, kuj muaj tus zoo thiab. Muaj 1 pab yog dablaug SUAV LAUJ VAJ lawv pab txiv tub, Hmoob NajNyoos. Pab no, coob heev, kuv tijlaug TwvYeej thiaj coj mus nyob tim nws daim teb lawm. Tuaj txog tebchaws no, uantej nws yuav tsos sawvdaws tseg, nws yeej xaj lus cia tias, luag tej txawm yuav hais licas los chawj, kom nws tsevneeg tsis txhob nrog luag hais, lawv dim txoj kev tuag yog vim muaj peb pab lawv.
Koj nug seb kuv ua haujlwm dabtsi? Xyov koj nug phem los nug zoo, tabsis, kuv yuav teb koj tias kuv ua haujlwm qhia ntawv nyob Muag PhoneHong. Thaum nom tswv nthuav kev kawm kom dav. Lawv thiaj pon zoo xa kuv los tuav 2 lub Mathanyom tshiab nyob rau 2 tug tojxeem, Km52 & PhoneSoung. Kuv yog tus los tsim tsa lub 2 lub tsev kawm ntawv no ntag. Tam sim no, lub nram PhoneSoung raug kaw lawm, tabsis lub nyob Km52 yeej tseem functioning fully. Cov XibFwb tseem qhia ntawv hauv yog kuv cov tub kawm tag xwb.
Txhua tus leej tib neeg yuav tsum muaj lub CEV thiab lub SIAB thiaj tsheej tau neeg. Neeg lub CEV yog tus QHEV, neeg lub SIAB yog tus THAWJ. Lub ces tsis muaj teebmeem, tabsis, neeg lub SIAB txawj lem. Nws muaj qhov SIAB NCAJ thiab qhov SIAB NKHAUS. Yog li no, txawm yus hais ncaj npaum twg los, yeej yuav muaj tus hais NKHAUS cees rov tuaj. Yog yus ho cuab NKHAUS, los yeej yuav muaj tus hais NCAJ tuaj.
Yog muab kuv sob lus kawg no los ua guideline ces yeej paub leej twg yog leej twg lawm.
TseemYeej.
Yawg Tseemyeej, kuv nug koj no mas tsis yog yuav nug dabtsi ..tsua yog xav paub txog koj me ntsis xwb. vim tias lub sijhawm ntawd mas kuv ho yog phaumneeg yau nej cov ko lawd thiab peb los ho tsis tau nrog nej nyob Lak52. Tabsis Toojxeeb lauj mas yog kuv tus bawg ces peb yeej sibpaub zoo. Tom qab uas lawv tsiv los rau Lak52 lawm ces hnov hais tias nws tus ntxhais Yiv los yuav nej tsev neeg lawm no xwb kuv twb ho tsis paub tus vauv ntawd xyov tseem nyob tebchaws blog los tuaj mus txawv tebchaws lawm thiab.
Tom qab no Toojxeeb Lauj kuj tau tuaj saib peb rau USA no ..nws thiab nws pojniam kuj los saib peb thiab los nojib pluagmov hauv kuv tsev. Ces dhau ntawd nws kuj mus muab chaw pw tim kuv ib tug bawg hmoob lis tsev...hmo ntawd lawm sib tham txog li 10:00 pm tej ntawd...ces txawm muaj neeg tuaj khob qhovrooj...kuv tus bawg mus qhib qhov ..nas yog ib tug kwvtij hmoob lis tuaj saib yawg thiab xwb....yawg bawg no rov los tom chav nyob nas has uacas tsis pom Kuv tus bawg Toojxeeb thiab nws pojniam lawm...tus niamtij Hmoob lis ntawd thiaj mam mus hu nkawv nraum lub Garage rov los tsev.

Kuv tus bawg ntawd rov mus blog teb lawm ces tus bawg hmoob lis ntawd mam li tham haistias ...tos bawg Toojxeeb nkawv ntshai baum li ntawd es khiav mus nkaum nraum garage mas twb yog thaum nypob tim Lak52 nkawv xaaj cov Koosluam tuaj cov Hmoob khiav tuaj mus thaib teb coob heev es nkawd thiaj li ntshai tsam yog hmoob tuaj tua nkawv. cov lus no mas twb yog tom nkawv mus tsev lawm es kuv tus bawg ntawd mam li tham rau kuv xwb ov... tej no ne koj yog tus nyob koom zej koom zos nrog lawv puas muaj tseeb...raws li tau hais los mas Nruaspov Lauj yog tus uas ua phem rau peb cov Hmoob uas khiav tuaj mus thaibteb ntag no laiv...xaaj koosluam tua hmoob...yog tias koj tsis yog koosluam ces kuv tsuas nug mentsiv quav li no xwb.
TseemYeej
2012-10-02 20:38:07 UTC
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Yawg hlob TXHEEVCOM,
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tsua yog xav paub txog koj me ntsis xwb. vim tias lub sijhawm ntawd
mas kuv ho yog phaumneeg yau nej cov ko lawd thiab peb los ho tsis tau
nrog nej nyob Lak52.
I have nothing to hide, xav nug dab tsis tau tag nawb. Yam kuv paub ces kuv yeej qhia ncaj nraim tias kuv paub, hos yam kuv tsis paub ces kuv yeej qhia ncaj nraim tias kuv tsis paub.
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Tom qab uas lawv tsiv los rau Lak52 lawm ces hnov hais tias nws tus
ntxhais Yiv los yuav nej tsev neeg lawm no xwb kuv twb ho tsis paub
tus vauv ntawd xyov tseem nyob tebchaws blog los tuaj mus txawv tebchaws
lawm thiab.
Niam ToojXeeb yog peb muam. nkawd tus ntxhais Yiv ces yuav kuv tijlaug LisPos, lawv nyob Canada. Tus yau hu ua Maiv no, 1968, tuaj nrog niam Tony Powe nyob tim Thaibteb, tom qab no yuav Suav Thaib lawm. Tshuav 2 tug ntxhais yau ces ib tug yuav Nplog lawm, hos tus ntxhais ntxawm yuav kuv tus kwv (txiv ntxawm tub) ntag. PovNruas yuav kuv txiv ntxawm tus ntxhais. Raws kuv nco tau ces lawv muaj 8 leej kwvtij nus muag, 4 tug tub, 4 tug ntxhais. Nkawd 2 tug laus, puavleej tuag tag lawm, muab nkawd faus kiag ua ke tom tog tsev. Ua ntej leej txi yuav tuag, tej tub ki yeej xub puab nkawd 2 tug pej thuam (ntxav) tos lawm, kuv mus pom mas yeej loj siab kawg. Kuv xav mas tsim nyog kawg lawm.
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Kuv tus bawg ntawd rov mus blog teb lawm ces tus bawg hmoob lis ntawd
mam li tham haistias ...tos bawg Toojxeeb nkawv ntshai baum li ntawd
es khiav mus nkaum nraum garage mas twb yog thaum nypob tim Lak52 nkawv
xaaj cov Koosluam tuaj cov Hmoob khiav tuaj mus thaib teb coob heev es
Raws kuv nco tau, yawm txiv ToojXeeb yog ib tug neeg hais lus tog heev. Nws daim duab CAPTAIN ToojXeeb, thaum ub nws ua tub rog Fabkis, dai tim phabntsa, nws yeej tsis tshem li. Tog AIBNOOB tuaj pem Muang tuaj tsawg pab los yeej los so hau nws, txawm pom daim duab los lawv yeej tsis muab nws ua txim.

Qhov ntawm sawv daws pheej xyav nws moo mas, kuv xav tias tejzaum nws yog tus toj xeem LAUS, luag twb hloov luag tsawg pwg tojxeem los sawv daws pheej tseem fwm nws ces qhov phem qhov zoo los poob tag rau nws ris. Raws kuv xav mas tej teebmeem no muaj 3pab neeg yog cov muaj direct or indirect involvement:
1-Cov Hmoob pheej khiav-v no yog cov Hmoob los CobFab los sov kom los sia ces mam xia kev khiav. Cov tseem Hmoob laug mas yeej tseem nyob tus yees nawb.

2-Cov pheej los tos-s neeg no, yog cov los ua luam nrhiav nyiaj, tsis yog los KubXaj tiag. Ntau zaus, tsis yog cov seej tua, tabsis, kuj yog cov qus sib txeeb nyiaj thiab sib txeeb hluas nkauj es tua xwb los kuj muaj.

3-Qhov ntawm cov seej hov mus tua pej xeem no mas yog vim muaj ib cov seej ntawd, nws xubtw tais muaj qua lawm (tivtauj cov qus) thaum luag ntsiab tau ces kawg lees mus ua tej haujlwm ntawd thiaj tau credit (Phone Ngane). Muaj ib case, cov es twb khiav mus txog tim ThaibTeb lawm mam rov los to lawv tej neeg. Thaum tos tau yus tej neeg tag lawm, tsis tias rov twjywm rov qab hos tseem pheej lug toj lug pes. Yawm txiv ToojXeeb, xav tias zoo phem los yog kwv yog tij, xeem Lauj tib yam, thiaj xa zaub xa mov mus rau thiab hais tias mus tsis mus los twb mus lawm ces, ua ib siab mus kom dhau no. Lawv cov ciaj ntxoog rovlos ho xav niag lem cees, sau tau ib daig ntawv liab ploog mus rau yawm txiv ToojXeeb tias lawv yuav los nrog nws noj ib pluag tshais tso mam mus. Thaum kawg, tej lus no, hnov txog luag cov coj, luag thiaj tuaj nrog yus noj ib pluag tshais ntag laud. Yog li no no, pheej yuav mus chim rau luag ua tws tsi maj?

Kuv xav tias koj yeej paub koj tus npawg ToojXeeb Lauj zaj dabneeg uas gvp xaaj tub rog coj nws mus tua pov tseg lawm. Mob nws siab thiab tsis mob los kawg xum tso kwv tso tij tseg es ua ib siab los ua teb noj rau km52 lawm. Nws tham rau peb tias, muaj ib zaug nkawd mus kawm thab ham ua ke, Nplog ntaus VP yuav tuag, coj vp mus pov nram dej, nws muab nws lub nrob qaum mus tiv nplog qws cia nplog ntaus nws tsuav npo tau vp los xwb. Tom qab vp ciaj nom, mom nws txheej, tseem xaj tua nws pov tseg thiab, tuag twb tuag, nws yeej tsis raws vp lawm.

Ua neej nyob, yog yus pheej pom luag qhov phem xwb, yus tsis pom yus qhov phem li ces, tshuav deb thiaj vam tau meej nawb. Tib yam li kuv hais rau yawm thaub "idonotknow " yus twb RUAM-M es luag thiaj ua paj lug piav tias: " Neeg lub CEV yog tus QHEV, neeg lub SIAB yog tus THAWJ." no los yus tseem pheej xuas taub hau nrau phab ntsa hlau tag zog li( เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู ). Tsis ua cas, tej tug neeg RUAM NCAJ RUAM NCEES, tej tug kuj RUAM NKHAUS COJ NKHAUS CEES kawg kiag THIAB.

Teen meem muaj cia rau yus daws, tsis yog muaj cia rau yus khuam siab, kuv ntsib tej teebmeem no tag lawm. Kuv paub kuv tus kheej zoo lawm. Kuv nyob kab ntsab lawm. Kuv tsuas tuaj qho plaub hauv rau niam ntab niam me mus ev nyuav nyuam los rau kuv saib seb tshuav tsawg tus tso nyooj qhov twg tuaj lawm xwb.

Zoo siab tau txuas lus nrog nej. Sib ntsib dua,



TseemYeej.
TXHEEVCOM
2012-10-04 20:30:27 UTC
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Yawg hlob TXHEEVCOM,
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tsua yog xav paub txog koj me ntsis xwb. vim tias lub sijhawm ntawd
mas kuv ho yog phaumneeg yau nej cov ko lawd thiab peb los ho tsis tau
nrog nej nyob Lak52.
I have nothing to hide, xav nug dab tsis tau tag nawb. Yam kuv paub ces kuv yeej qhia ncaj nraim tias kuv paub, hos yam kuv tsis paub ces kuv yeej qhia ncaj nraim tias kuv tsis paub.
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Tom qab uas lawv tsiv los rau Lak52 lawm ces hnov hais tias nws tus
ntxhais Yiv los yuav nej tsev neeg lawm no xwb kuv twb ho tsis paub
tus vauv ntawd xyov tseem nyob tebchaws blog los tuaj mus txawv tebchaws
lawm thiab.
Niam ToojXeeb yog peb muam. nkawd tus ntxhais Yiv ces yuav kuv tijlaug LisPos, lawv nyob Canada. Tus yau hu ua Maiv no, 1968, tuaj nrog niam Tony Powe nyob tim Thaibteb, tom qab no yuav Suav Thaib lawm. Tshuav 2 tug ntxhais yau ces ib tug yuav Nplog lawm, hos tus ntxhais ntxawm yuav kuv tus kwv (txiv ntxawm tub) ntag. PovNruas yuav kuv txiv ntxawm tus ntxhais. Raws kuv nco tau ces lawv muaj 8 leej kwvtij nus muag, 4 tug tub, 4 tug ntxhais. Nkawd 2 tug laus, puavleej tuag tag lawm, muab nkawd faus kiag ua ke tom tog tsev. Ua ntej leej txi yuav tuag, tej tub ki yeej xub puab nkawd 2 tug pej thuam (ntxav) tos lawm, kuv mus pom mas yeej loj siab kawg. Kuv xav mas tsim nyog kawg lawm.
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Kuv tus bawg ntawd rov mus blog teb lawm ces tus bawg hmoob lis ntawd
mam li tham haistias ...tos bawg Toojxeeb nkawv ntshai baum li ntawd
es khiav mus nkaum nraum garage mas twb yog thaum nypob tim Lak52 nkawv
xaaj cov Koosluam tuaj cov Hmoob khiav tuaj mus thaib teb coob heev es
Raws kuv nco tau, yawm txiv ToojXeeb yog ib tug neeg hais lus tog heev. Nws daim duab CAPTAIN ToojXeeb, thaum ub nws ua tub rog Fabkis, dai tim phabntsa, nws yeej tsis tshem li. Tog AIBNOOB tuaj pem Muang tuaj tsawg pab los yeej los so hau nws, txawm pom daim duab los lawv yeej tsis muab nws ua txim.
1-Cov Hmoob pheej khiav-v no yog cov Hmoob los CobFab los sov kom los sia ces mam xia kev khiav. Cov tseem Hmoob laug mas yeej tseem nyob tus yees nawb.
2-Cov pheej los tos-s neeg no, yog cov los ua luam nrhiav nyiaj, tsis yog los KubXaj tiag. Ntau zaus, tsis yog cov seej tua, tabsis, kuj yog cov qus sib txeeb nyiaj thiab sib txeeb hluas nkauj es tua xwb los kuj muaj.
3-Qhov ntawm cov seej hov mus tua pej xeem no mas yog vim muaj ib cov seej ntawd, nws xubtw tais muaj qua lawm (tivtauj cov qus) thaum luag ntsiab tau ces kawg lees mus ua tej haujlwm ntawd thiaj tau credit (Phone Ngane). Muaj ib case, cov es twb khiav mus txog tim ThaibTeb lawm mam rov los to lawv tej neeg. Thaum tos tau yus tej neeg tag lawm, tsis tias rov twjywm rov qab hos tseem pheej lug toj lug pes. Yawm txiv ToojXeeb, xav tias zoo phem los yog kwv yog tij, xeem Lauj tib yam, thiaj xa zaub xa mov mus rau thiab hais tias mus tsis mus los twb mus lawm ces, ua ib siab mus kom dhau no. Lawv cov ciaj ntxoog rovlos ho xav niag lem cees, sau tau ib daig ntawv liab ploog mus rau yawm txiv ToojXeeb tias lawv yuav los nrog nws noj ib pluag tshais tso mam mus. Thaum kawg, tej lus no, hnov txog luag cov coj, luag thiaj tuaj nrog yus noj ib pluag tshais ntag laud. Yog li no no, pheej yuav mus chim rau luag ua tws tsi maj?
Kuv xav tias koj yeej paub koj tus npawg ToojXeeb Lauj zaj dabneeg uas gvp xaaj tub rog coj nws mus tua pov tseg lawm. Mob nws siab thiab tsis mob los kawg xum tso kwv tso tij tseg es ua ib siab los ua teb noj rau km52 lawm. Nws tham rau peb tias, muaj ib zaug nkawd mus kawm thab ham ua ke, Nplog ntaus VP yuav tuag, coj vp mus pov nram dej, nws muab nws lub nrob qaum mus tiv nplog qws cia nplog ntaus nws tsuav npo tau vp los xwb. Tom qab vp ciaj nom, mom nws txheej, tseem xaj tua nws pov tseg thiab, tuag twb tuag, nws yeej tsis raws vp lawm.
Ua neej nyob, yog yus pheej pom luag qhov phem xwb, yus tsis pom yus qhov phem li ces, tshuav deb thiaj vam tau meej nawb. Tib yam li kuv hais rau yawm thaub "idonotknow " yus twb RUAM-M es luag thiaj ua paj lug piav tias: " Neeg lub CEV yog tus QHEV, neeg lub SIAB yog tus THAWJ." no los yus tseem pheej xuas taub hau nrau phab ntsa hlau tag zog li( เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู ). Tsis ua cas, tej tug neeg RUAM NCAJ RUAM NCEES, tej tug kuj RUAM NKHAUS COJ NKHAUS CEES kawg kiag THIAB.
Teen meem muaj cia rau yus daws, tsis yog muaj cia rau yus khuam siab, kuv ntsib tej teebmeem no tag lawm. Kuv paub kuv tus kheej zoo lawm. Kuv nyob kab ntsab lawm. Kuv tsuas tuaj qho plaub hauv rau niam ntab niam me mus ev nyuav nyuam los rau kuv saib seb tshuav tsawg tus tso nyooj qhov twg tuaj lawm xwb.
Zoo siab tau txuas lus nrog nej. Sib ntsib dua,
TseemYeej.
YAwg Tseemyeej ua koj tsaug uas ho muab piav ob tog lus rau s/d tau paub. Kuv hnov cov hmoob tim meskas no tham xwb mas thiaj nug kojx piav meej li noces nyaj yog neeg sib ntsw kom muaj lus hais xwb.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
2012-10-02 19:51:04 UTC
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Yawg hlob TXHEEVCOM,
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Yawg Tseemyeej, lub sijhawm ntawd...koj txoj haujlwm yog dabtsi...koj
ho muaj peevxwm mus lav tau neeg thiab pab lawv dim ntawd tus nyablaj
los???? KUv tus bawg Tooj Xeeb Lauj thiab nws tus tub Nruas Pov Lauj
yog lawm koj dablaug thiab yawmtxiv puas yog????
Cov neeg tuaj nyeej peb cov lus sib cav hauv no, muaj txog 466 leej, pretty high. Peb cov sau sib teb muaj 58 zaus, muaj 2-3 leeg oppose kuv cov lus, it's not that bad. Tso quav nruab nqhuab los yeej yuav txhaum, tso quav nruab deg los yeej yuav txhaum. In this world, nothing is TRUE, nothing is PERMANENT and nothing is PERFECT. Yog tsis muaj neeg thuam lawm ces yus kuj tsis muaj nuj nqis lawm thiab. Tsob ntoo twg, yog cua tshuab tsis nti ces, tsob ntoo ntawd yeej tuag lawm. I love being criticized, so I can see what to improve myself. As I said " Txhua yam TEEB MEEM yog muaj cia rau yus DAWS, tsis yog muaj los ua yus chaw NYUAB SIAB".
ToojXeeb thiab PovNruas nkawd, yuav hu ua yawmyij los tau, yawmtxiv los tau, dablaug los tau. Nkawd puavleej yuav peb muam, peb tsevneeg los yuav nkawd muam thiab ntxhais.
Koj rov mus nyeem dua, kuv yeej hais meej tias yog peb TojXeem km52, ToojXeeb Lauj, mus lav los no laiv. Kuv tsis tau hais tias yog kuv tus kheej mus lav tom Naxaithong los. Thaum los txog KM52 lawm, peb mam mus sib zeem thiab coj los so, hnub puav kom lawv ua tau tsev, lawv mam tawm mus nyob lawv.
Tus phem ces muaj li kuv hais los saud, tabsis, kuj muaj tus zoo thiab. Muaj 1 pab yog dablaug SUAV LAUJ VAJ lawv pab txiv tub, Hmoob NajNyoos. Pab no, coob heev, kuv tijlaug TwvYeej thiaj coj mus nyob tim nws daim teb lawm. Tuaj txog tebchaws no, uantej nws yuav tsos sawvdaws tseg, nws yeej xaj lus cia tias, luag tej txawm yuav hais licas los chawj, kom nws tsevneeg tsis txhob nrog luag hais, lawv dim txoj kev tuag yog vim muaj peb pab lawv.
Koj nug seb kuv ua haujlwm dabtsi? Xyov koj nug phem los nug zoo, tabsis, kuv yuav teb koj tias kuv ua haujlwm qhia ntawv nyob Muag PhoneHong. Thaum nom tswv nthuav kev kawm kom dav. Lawv thiaj pon zoo xa kuv los tuav 2 lub Mathanyom tshiab nyob rau 2 tug tojxeem, Km52 & PhoneSoung. Kuv yog tus los tsim tsa lub 2 lub tsev kawm ntawv no ntag. Tam sim no, lub nram PhoneSoung raug kaw lawm, tabsis lub nyob Km52 yeej tseem functioning fully. Cov XibFwb tseem qhia ntawv hauv yog kuv cov tub kawm tag xwb.
Txhua tus leej tib neeg yuav tsum muaj lub CEV thiab lub SIAB thiaj tsheej tau neeg. Neeg lub CEV yog tus QHEV, neeg lub SIAB yog tus THAWJ. Lub ces tsis muaj teebmeem, tabsis, neeg lub SIAB txawj lem. Nws muaj qhov SIAB NCAJ thiab qhov SIAB NKHAUS. Yog li no, txawm yus hais ncaj npaum twg los, yeej yuav muaj tus hais NKHAUS cees rov tuaj. Yog yus ho cuab NKHAUS, los yeej yuav muaj tus hais NCAJ tuaj.
Yog muab kuv sob lus kawg no los ua guideline ces yeej paub leej twg yog leej twg lawm.
TseemYeej.
hnub no kuv kawm tau koj ib lo lus txaus siab tsawv tias: neeg lub cev yog tus qheev lub siab yog tusd thawj.
phwvnyawm
2012-10-02 20:13:41 UTC
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Idonotknow....aw,

Sub koj nim tsis paub tias neeg lub cev ces yog niag QHEV lub Siab
(Plawv) hmoob hais tias yog siab tiag-g yog plawv) yog qhia kom ua tas
txhua,txhia yam......koj sim rov nug koj tus kheej saib........Koj
yuav mus ua tub sab los yog koj lub siab xaj kom koj lub cev mus tub
sab...... Koj yuav cev tes mus xuas luag tej los yog koj lub niag siab
kom koj txhais tes mus xuas luag los mas.....ha..ha.....ha.....xuas
qhov i.........ua li uncle Tseem yeej hais los mas tim lub siab yog
lub nkhaus,lem.phem xwb os.....koj pheej cem-m tus ub tus no ,hais-s
luag tej yog tim koj lub siab xwb los mas.
idonotknow ¨pheej hmoo¨ เอาหัวชนฝาเหล็กเพื่อเจาะรู
2012-10-02 23:29:03 UTC
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Idonotknow....aw,
Sub koj nim tsis paub tias neeg lub cev ces yog niag QHEV lub Siab
(Plawv) hmoob hais tias yog siab tiag-g yog plawv) yog qhia kom ua tas
txhua,txhia yam......koj sim rov nug koj tus kheej saib........Koj
yuav mus ua tub sab los yog koj lub siab xaj kom koj lub cev mus tub
sab...... Koj yuav cev tes mus xuas luag tej los yog koj lub niag siab
kom koj txhais tes mus xuas luag los mas.....ha..ha.....ha.....xuas
qhov i.........ua li uncle Tseem yeej hais los mas tim lub siab yog
lub nkhaus,lem.phem xwb os.....koj pheej cem-m tus ub tus no ,hais-s
luag tej yog tim koj lub siab xwb los mas.
kuv tsis tau muab lub CEV thiab lub siab coj los piv ua qheev thiab ua thawj li ua ntej kuv nyeem pom thawj zaug hnub no li ne.

YOG li ntawd nopeb ho sim muab piv me me seb ib khub niam txiv es tus niam los yog tus txiv yog tus qheev tus twg yog tus thawj coj?
toutsismuaj
2012-09-28 01:21:05 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Qhov nos qhia tau hais tias hmoob tseem muaj coj ruam ruam coob npaum cas.
Hmoob yeej ntxeev siab rau koj yog nws tsis tau ua koj ib tug tub txib los yog tub khais.
Hmoob tsis muaj lub zeem muag txog yus haiv ces xum ntxeev siab mus tuaj lwm qhov.
Hmoob tsis txawk mob siab txog nws haiv tibneeg, tiam sis nyiam kom luag qhua txawm tau meme xwb los hmoob tus ua ruam ces twb yeej zoo siab lawm.

Tejzaum hmoob poob qab txoj kev kawm deb los lawm ntau tiam ntau xyoo ntau 1000 xyoo ua rau hmoob tsis txawj sib hlub lawm.
Born2beMhong
2012-10-03 13:21:29 UTC
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Sawvdaws, Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li? Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim yuav siv tau dua? Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv? X Z
Xavzoo aws,

cov phaws nyuj ua kub zuag zuag no, yuav tsim cia kom nrau heev me me thiab peb thiaj li kawm tau lawv lub tswv8 thiab tswv9 os nawb.

kuv nco tau tias Dr Pao Oz peb yeej tham muaj tham txog lawm tias....LOLz!

1. great minds talk about ideas

2. middle minds talk about events

3. and small minds talk about people

txivneej yawg li kuv hais hais los lawm os--noj tsi tau yuav tuag, hais tsi tau yuav swb. yog luag lam tau lam tshum li personal assissination lawm ces kawg teb xwb mas.

tej no xwb tseeb tsi tau npaum li Zhen thiab Tseemyeej nkawv ua ntshav P...mam tshaus lug rau qhov ub qhov no---thiab Zen thiab HmongvangUSA nkawv ua es muab xa kiag mus cuag poj cuag yawm....

hahhahahahaa...kuv mas yog kuv tsi txawj Zam siab Zam nqi es lam tau lam sibtsoo li luag tej mas....ntshe kuv twb ua rog WW-III nyob rau hauv SCH no ntev los lawm os. vim txhua tus yeej cuab lawv tus kub ntse ntse mas hov tag li tos Born ua hnub ua hmo xwb los Born yog neeg Understand ces Born zam xwb...Zhen wb mas hlua taws twb yuav luag cig ntau lwm...hos Laura Lor-Xiong thiab Unko Tseemyeej los yeej ncho kub tag li rau Born....LOLz!

dhau li ntawd los Thorsp ua yog Unknown mas cug kub tag li rau Born--tsua yog Born tus kub ntse zog lawm es nws tsi tsua lam nrau pamthawj es nws thiaj li tsi cug taubhaus rau xwb os nawb.

tej yam zoo li no xwb, muab xav tias me me xwb. peb twb ib txwm hais tias, yog tias txhob yog sibcam hauv forum li no--es tseem zoo li tim Longtien thiab Samthong ntshe peb ib cov no twb rau tua thiab sibtuag tuas tuag lawm coob tus no os mog.

tso siab nawb...smiles!

Born
Xavzoo
2012-10-03 13:52:30 UTC
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Sawvdaws, Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li? Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim yuav siv tau dua? Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv? X Z
Xavzoo aws,
cov phaws nyuj ua kub zuag zuag no, yuav tsim cia kom nrau heev me me thiab peb thiaj li kawm tau lawv lub tswv8 thiab tswv9 os nawb.
kuv nco tau tias Dr Pao Oz peb yeej tham muaj tham txog lawm tias....LOLz!
1. great minds talk about ideas
2. middle minds talk about events
3. and small minds talk about people
txivneej yawg li kuv hais hais los lawm os--noj tsi tau yuav tuag, hais tsi tau yuav swb.  yog luag lam tau lam tshum li personal assissination lawm ces kawg teb xwb mas.
tej no xwb tseeb tsi tau npaum li Zhen thiab Tseemyeej nkawv ua ntshav P...mam tshaus lug rau qhov ub qhov no---thiab Zen thiab HmongvangUSA nkawv ua es muab xa kiag mus cuag poj cuag yawm....
hahhahahahaa...kuv mas yog kuv tsi txawj Zam siab Zam nqi es lam tau lam sibtsoo li luag tej mas....ntshe kuv twb ua rog  WW-III nyob rau hauv SCH no ntev los lawm os.  vim txhua tus yeej cuab lawv tus kub ntse ntse mas hov tag li tos Born ua hnub ua hmo xwb los Born yog neeg Understand ces Born zam xwb...Zhen wb mas hlua taws twb yuav luag cig ntau lwm...hos Laura Lor-Xiong thiab Unko Tseemyeej los yeej ncho kub tag li rau Born....LOLz!
dhau li ntawd los Thorsp ua yog Unknown mas cug kub tag li rau Born--tsua yog Born tus kub ntse zog lawm es nws tsi tsua lam nrau pamthawj es nws thiaj li tsi cug taubhaus rau xwb os nawb.
tej yam zoo li no xwb, muab xav tias me me xwb.  peb twb ib txwm hais tias, yog tias txhob yog sibcam hauv forum li no--es tseem zoo li tim Longtien thiab Samthong ntshe peb ib cov no twb rau tua thiab sibtuag tuas tuag lawm coob tus no os mog.
tso siab nawb...smiles!
Born
Born aw..,

Koj rov qab mus Vientiane lawm los cas tav no mam pom koj dua na...

Yeej yog li koj thiab sawvdaws ib txhia hais, tabsis kom peb nco
ntsoov tias peb niaj hnub sib hom khaj, ib leeg nyas rau ib leeg ces
tejzaum lub ntse yuav muaj tuaj tabsis lub tawg tshwj ces kab pleb yim
huab rua loj, yuav xuas dabtsi los lo twb tsis tau, yuav xaws los twb
tsis nqawm. Tej sib tawg tshwj no yuav tho kev rau peb tus yeeb ncuab
tuaj txog peb yoojyim.

Qhov cheem tau ces yuav tau pab cheem, cheem tsis tau lawm los mam tso
plhuav. Nej saib ma...thaum kawg peb kawm tsis tau dabtsi, tabsis kawm
tau tias leejtwg yog leejtwg, leej twg zoo siv txog qib twg xwb.
Tomntej no ces peb twb tsis tso siab rau nkawv leejtwg li lawm
ne...Txawm yog Tseemyeej los twb ua rau sawvdaws tas kev ciasiab,
Cwjmem los sawvdaws tas kev ciasiab los ntawm nkawv tej me txujci
homkhaj xwb los mas. Nkawv tsis hais los txawm yuav swb tiag tiag,
nkawv sib hais los tsuas tev nkawv tej qe qauj rau peb hnia xwb ne.

Qhov zoo mas cia peb cov txiv nyuj kub zuag no mus nrau Blog cov,
Thaib cov thiab Nyablaj cov. Peb cov tswv nyuj sib nraus los thaum yus
tus nyuj tais lawm xwb yus twb tusiab rau luag, peb tsim txoj kev sib
tusiab thiab txoj kev sib tawg tshwj tas li xwb es puas yog peb
sawvdaws cov kub zuag tiag tiag ne..? Thaum twb pom tias yuav muaj
txim taws lawm yuav tau thau taws mentsis, tabsis ib txhia tseem laub
roj ntxiv, tus uas laub roj ntxiv los twb qhia nws tus kheej rau peb
lawm thiab ne...Kuv ces tas kev ciasiab zujzus rau sawvdaws.

Cas tsis pom sawvdaws hais ib kuag lus muaj muaj cawm seej, muaj kev
sib txhawb li, tsuas tab pom tej lus sib rhuav ntau xwb. Puas yog peb
tus yeebncuab muab peb cov tub txawj tub kobxwb no hau tas tus li lawm
ne..?

Thaum xub yog luag muab quav pleev peb, ces peb cia li sib pleev sib
do los li lawm xwb. Tsam no thov thau peb txoj kev ntse tawm los ua
tes tsau rau peb pom kev thiab lau...

Born yuav tau pauv tswvyim nawb, X Z los pauv tibsi, sib txhawb zoo
dua i peb sib rhuav.

X Z
Born2beMhong
2012-10-03 17:06:17 UTC
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Xavzoo,

tos kuv hais li rau koj mas--cov neeg ua txawj zam txim ces txawm hais siab hais nci los nws yeej txawj zam txim thiab tsi tham ntau mus txog tej kev ntswv siab ntawd.

cov neeg ua tsi txawj zam ces txawm koj yuav hais npaum li cas los, luag yeej tsi txawj thimxav li--txawm tuaj hauv tej forum no los kavliam, nyob tom vaj tom tsev los kav liam. Characteristics will never change in a person's life...it can only change a momentary while he/she is happy. dhau li ntawd, ces nws yeej coj nws tib tug cwjpwm qub li nawb mog.

tsi paub zoo tias, koj tuaj ntev li no koj puas kawm tau dabtsi. kuv mas kuv tuaj li no ua rau kuv kawm tau ntau heev lawm nawb...txog tib neeg txoj kev hais lus, txawj zam lus, cwjpwm, siab luv thiab siab ntev. txawj hais lus, txawj tshum lus--thiab txawj ntsw lus. tus ua nws tsi tseg leej twg li, ib los tuag ib tug nyuj, ib los tuag ib twm los muaj.

dhau li ntawd, li Thornsp hais os, lub sijhawm tauvhuab tsau tsau kajnrig kiag lawm--ces cias cov no sibcam li no thiab xws peb thiaj li paub xav rau yus tus kheej tias--yog kuv nes hos yuav zoo li cas no mas mog os.

yog li ntawd, tso siab nawb...yog tus neeg tsi coj cai, ces yog koj tseem tso coj mus tsoo nplog, nyablaj, thiab thai li no thiab ces ib pliag plam tagnrho txhua tsav txhua yam li hmoob ib txwm ua ua dhau los lawm xwb mas mog. yog koj coj mus ua tsov ua rog no mas zoo heev, vim lawv siab tawv heev ces lawv yeej nce hlos tuaj tim roob phusnpiab tsi ntshais leej twg li ntag.

tabsi, cov neeg ua yuav tham kom muaj kev npau suav--yuav tsum tau ua tau thiab yoog tau thiab...paub xaiv lus hais. ib yam li yuav sibceg sibcam li peb pom pom no los, luag yeej txawj xaiv lus hais kom muaj reason thiab zoo ntau xwb. yog li ntawd, tej no xwb cias li luag kiag 3 suab rau xwb os nawb.

yog mas, twb yog mus pom Nplogteb los lawm ces nploojsiab nploojntsw pheej nyob tsi tus li ces thiaj li mus saib nplog duas lawm os nawb....hahhaha LOLz...j/k!

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Xavzoo
2012-10-03 22:31:42 UTC
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Xavzoo,
tos kuv hais li rau koj mas--cov neeg ua txawj zam txim ces txawm hais siab hais nci los nws yeej txawj zam txim thiab tsi tham ntau mus txog tej kev ntswv siab ntawd.
cov neeg ua tsi txawj zam ces txawm koj yuav hais npaum li cas los, luag yeej tsi txawj thimxav li--txawm tuaj hauv tej forum no los kavliam, nyob tom vaj tom tsev los kav liam. Characteristics will never change in a person's life...it can only change a momentary while he/she is happy. dhau li ntawd, ces nws yeej coj nws tib tug cwjpwm qub li nawb mog.
tsi paub zoo tias, koj tuaj ntev li no koj puas kawm tau dabtsi.  kuv mas kuv  tuaj li no ua rau kuv kawm tau ntau heev lawm nawb...txog tib neeg txoj kev hais lus, txawj zam lus, cwjpwm, siab luv thiab siab ntev.  txawj hais lus, txawj tshum lus--thiab txawj ntsw lus.  tus ua nws tsi tseg leej twg li, ib los tuag ib tug nyuj, ib los tuag ib twm los muaj.
dhau li ntawd, li Thornsp hais os, lub sijhawm tauvhuab tsau tsau kajnrig kiag lawm--ces cias cov no sibcam li no thiab xws peb thiaj li paub xav rau yus tus kheej tias--yog kuv nes hos yuav zoo li cas no mas mog os.
yog li ntawd, tso siab nawb...yog tus neeg tsi coj cai, ces yog koj tseem tso coj mus tsoo nplog, nyablaj, thiab thai li no thiab ces ib pliag plam tagnrho txhua tsav txhua yam li hmoob ib txwm ua ua dhau los lawm xwb mas mog.  yog koj coj mus ua tsov ua rog no mas zoo heev, vim lawv siab tawv heev ces lawv yeej nce hlos tuaj tim roob phusnpiab tsi ntshais leej twg li ntag.
tabsi, cov neeg ua yuav tham kom muaj kev npau suav--yuav tsum tau ua tau thiab yoog tau thiab...paub xaiv lus hais.  ib yam li  yuav sibceg sibcam li peb pom pom no los, luag yeej txawj xaiv lus hais kom muaj reason thiab zoo ntau xwb.  yog li ntawd, tej no xwb cias li luag kiag 3 suab rau xwb os nawb.
yog mas, twb yog mus pom Nplogteb los lawm ces nploojsiab nploojntsw pheej nyob tsi tus li ces thiaj li mus saib nplog duas lawm os nawb....hahhaha LOLz...j/k!
Born
Born,

Koj hais yog lus kawg lawm los mas...Tabsis sawvdaws yog peb li kwvtij
Hmoob, leejtwg txawm sib cam/cav los peb sawvdaws sib pab cheem seb
puas muaj qhov zoo zujzus tuaj. Vim Hmoob ib txwm ciaj caub/cibnyeej
lawm, xav kom peb txheej no ho txawj sib cheem, sib hais rau qhov siv
tau seb peb puas txawj majmam pauv hloov es txhiab xyoo tomntej haiv
Hmoob puas zoo zog qhov peb pom dua no.

Neeg nyias yeej muaj nyias cujpwm, yeej muaj tej thaum txawj mloog
thiab mloog raug, yog peb sawvdaws xyaum hais zoo tas li xwb nyaj yuav
txawj txav zujzus rau theem zoo.

Tsis tau hais tias sib cav tsis yog qhov zoo, yeej zoo los kom peb
paub theem sib cav xwb txhob mus txog qhov sib tawm tsam uas ua rau
peb tawg tshwj. Txawm tias peb yog neeg loj neeg siab los thaum peb
pob kub ntsuab lawm ces peb yeej nqus daj, thiaj xav kom peb pab sib
cheem kom txhob txog qhov nqus daj.

Xav tias yog peb sawvdaws pab cheem tas lawm, nkawv yeej kawg thim
xav, kawg txo nws tus kheej, kawg yuav sawvdaws kev pom zoo. Peb tseem
yuav nyob uake ntev ntev, peb yuav tau sib yoog raws cov coob pom zoo.
Peb pom ob leejtwg sib cav phem peb cheem ces ib tus sawvdaws txawj
xaiv lus hais lawm los mas.

X Z
Born2beMhong
2012-10-04 15:58:21 UTC
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Xavzoo,

ib cov neeg ces koj tham me me xwb luag paub ntau lawm nawb...ib cov neeg ces luag lam txwm li ntag, tsi k koj yuav hais thiab tsi hais li ntag nawb.

peb hmoob mas tsi yog koj cheem tag es tag lawm xwb nad, lawv mas tos ntsoov tsi tau ib tug hais kiag ib los xwb ces twb maj nroos yuav los cug tso pamthawj lawm ntag. peb hmoob tej siab miv miv thiab very greedy nawb mog--yog li ntawd, tsi yog tias tag lawm ces cias tag mus--hmoob mas yeej muab dai ncuv rau ntawm hauvpliaj ntag--tos tsi nyoo ib los lus li cas ces twb yuav maj nraug kub kom tus tos mas sab kiag xwb.

thaum peb hmoob lub siab puv puv thiab paiv paiv taub li no ces yeej tsi zoo hais dabtsi li ntag hod. yog nws tsi kam kawm nws tus kheej ces qhia npaum li cas los nws yeej tsi kawm li os nawb. li no, ces thiaj li nyob saib seb yuav zoo li cas xwb tiag...

zoosiab ua koj tseem txawjseeb txog cov phoojywg hauv SCh no thiab.

Born
TseemYeej
2012-10-04 16:54:09 UTC
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Nyob zoo Born & XavZoo,

Kuv ho pom txawv zog qhov neb hais nawb. Kuv mas, kuv ho tuaj hauv SCH no, yog tuaj sim kub kom paub tias leej twg yog leej twg xwb. Kuv yeej paub kuv lub hom phiaj zoo-oo. Born hais tias "tej siab miv miv thiab very greedy", not my case. Kuv xav paub neeg lub siab thaum foo ntsej muag lawm seb ho zoo li cas. Xav paub seb tus zoo phooj ywg los tus txheeb tus ze xav li cas rau yus lawm. Cov tuaj cem-m kuv hauv no, puav leej yog cov txheeb thiab zoo phooj ywg xwb.

Hais txog qhov XavZoo tsis cia siab rau kuv lawm mas, it's o.k, kuv yeej yuav tsis koom tej hauj lwm ciaj HAIV no li. Tsis yog nws ib leeg xwb cia siab rau kuv, coob leej ntau tus yeej tuaj-j yaum kuv kawg, niaj hnub nim no, 2 weeks ago, tseem muaj tus tuaj txog ntua hauv tsev thiab. Leej twg tuaj los kuv yeej hais kuv lo qub, vim kuv paub tias tej hauj lwm no yuav mus tsis txog twg.

Txawm ua mus los nkim sij hawm xwb, kuv cov zoo phooj ywg twb piam sij tag lawm ne. Tos phooj ywg Hawj Dee tau ncaim lawm los vim nws pom lub hom phiaj tsis meej. Phooj ywg Thoob Thoj XaivKaub, Cawv Thoj XaivKaub nkawd los yeej mus tsis txog twg, Phooj ywg Muas Soob los kuj nyob xob pus cia thiab xwb. Some of them have died quietly. Cov no peb yeej kawm ntawv ua ke, nyob ua ke, pw ua ke ntag.

Txuag zam-m tshiab, txuag siav-v nte os kwvtij awd!

First week of the month, kuv muaj ntsis busy thiab ces tham li no tso.


Sib ntsib dua,



TseemYeej.
d***@gmail.com
2012-10-04 18:48:44 UTC
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Nyob zoo Born & XavZoo, Kuv ho pom txawv zog qhov neb hais nawb. Kuv mas, kuv ho tuaj hauv SCH no, yog tuaj sim kub kom paub tias leej twg yog leej twg xwb. Kuv yeej paub kuv lub hom phiaj zoo-oo. Born hais tias "tej siab miv miv thiab very greedy", not my case. Kuv xav paub neeg lub siab thaum foo ntsej muag lawm seb ho zoo li cas. Xav paub seb tus zoo phooj ywg los tus txheeb tus ze xav li cas rau yus lawm. Cov tuaj cem-m kuv hauv no, puav leej yog cov txheeb thiab zoo phooj ywg xwb. Hais txog qhov XavZoo tsis cia siab rau kuv lawm mas, it's o.k, kuv yeej yuav tsis koom tej hauj lwm ciaj HAIV no li. Tsis yog nws ib leeg xwb cia siab rau kuv, coob leej ntau tus yeej tuaj-j yaum kuv kawg, niaj hnub nim no, 2 weeks ago, tseem muaj tus tuaj txog ntua hauv tsev thiab. Leej twg tuaj los kuv yeej hais kuv lo qub, vim kuv paub tias tej hauj lwm no yuav mus tsis txog twg. Txawm ua mus los nkim sij hawm xwb, kuv cov zoo phooj ywg twb piam sij tag lawm ne. Tos phooj ywg Hawj Dee tau ncaim lawm los vim nws pom lub hom phiaj tsis meej. Phooj ywg Thoob Thoj XaivKaub, Cawv Thoj XaivKaub nkawd los yeej mus tsis txog twg, Phooj ywg Muas Soob los kuj nyob xob pus cia thiab xwb. Some of them have died quietly. Cov no peb yeej kawm ntawv ua ke, nyob ua ke, pw ua ke ntag. Txuag zam-m tshiab, txuag siav-v nte os kwvtij awd! First week of the month, kuv muaj ntsis busy thiab ces tham li no tso. Sib ntsib dua, TseemYeej.
Nyob Zoo Tij laug Tseem Yeej,

Kuv yog cov yau tom qab no lawm tsis tau pom koj dua thiab paub koj zoo, tab sis raws li hnov koj lub koob thiab nyeem koj cov ntawv hauv no koj kuj yog ib tug tswv yim zoo heev nyob rau peb tsev neeg Hmoob. Xav nug koj ib los tias neeg pheej haiv nroos ntw txog ntawm koj tij lauj Lis Teeb xwb kuv xav kom koj hos muab nws zaj dab neeg los piav ib zaug pub peb mloog seb, tsam nws hos muaj tej yam zoo zoo thiab lub txiaj ntsim pab Hmoob ua Hmoob paub tsis txog, thiab txog thaum kawg kiag nws lub neej txoj sia zoo li cas, puas muaj tus pom ua zaum kawg. Thov koj qhia rau peb paub soj, kuv xav hnov heev.

Ua tsaug

David B
TseemYeej
2012-10-05 16:46:49 UTC
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Nyob Zoo David,
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Nyob Zoo Tij laug Tseem Yeej,
Xav nug koj ib los tias neeg pheej haiv nroos ntw txog ntawm koj
tij lauj Lis Teeb xwb kuv xav kom koj hos muab nws zaj dab neeg los
piav ib zaug pub peb mloog seb, tsam nws hos muaj tej yam zoo zoo
Koj xav paub Lyteck zaj dabneeg los kuv yeej piav tau, tabsis, kuv twb piav ntau zaus hauv nov lawm, kuv yuav piav mentsis kom koj totaub xwb, tsis piav ntxaws-s lawm, yog xav paub ntxaws los mam rov mus tshawb hauv SCH no ntxiv, los yog rov nug dua.

Lyteck kawm tiav (Laws Attorney) nyob France, 1967?. Thaum nws rov los, nws tseem hluas heev, tsuas muaj li 24-25 xyoos xwb. Chiv thawj, nws kuj muaj txoj kev npaus suav tib yam li tej tub kawm txuj Hmoob uas tau mus kawm txawv tebchaws los:

"Xav pab lub teb lub chaws, xav pab tej nom tej tswv".

Nws los pab vp ua haujlwm ib ntus nyob LongCheng for a couple of years, nkawd yeej sib haum, tabsis vp cov lujnoob tsis nyiam nws zaj tswv8. Nws xav tias kam tsov rog tsis yog Hmoob lub neej. Nws nyiam tham mus fab txhim teb kho chaw ntau dua. Tej hnub los nag, nws pom Hmoob pheej lug kev, vim dej nyab kev lawm, nws nyiam mus tiv nag thob kwj kom dej nag ntws taus. Qhov nws ua tau zoo ces yog lub TajLaj LoojCeeb thiab lub TajLaj Samthong, nws yog tus nqes tes thob kwj ua ntej ntag. Vp cov lujnoob pheej mus nkawg rau vp tias ua li Lyteck ua ntawd yog ua haujlwm NyabLaj KoosSam (communist). Ib tug ntxiv ib los ces thiaj ntxias tau 2 yawg tsis sib ntseeg siab.

Yog li no, xyoo 1969, Lyteck thiaj ua ib siab rov los ua haujlwm rau Vientiane thiab mus nrhiav teb ua nyob KM52 lawm. Nws ua haujlwm 5 hnub rau Government, 2 hnub weekends ces nws mus yug nyuj thiab cog zaub kab los ua ntaub tswvkab. Nws yeej ua tau ntaub tswvkab xa mus muag rau Japan lawm ntag. Cov pej xeem Hmoob pom tias nws ua tau lawm, lawv mam los poog nws. Hnub tsis ntev, hmo tsis ntau, pejxeem kuj muaj noj muaj haus zom zaws, thiaj mam ciaj zej ciaj zos KM52 los txog niaj hnub no. Qhob nws ua tau zoo tshaj rau public siv ces yog lub TajLaj Km52 (Market), lub tsev kawm ntawv (school) thiab lub tsev kho mob(clinic). Niaj hnub no, +40 years, Hmoob-b Nplog-g tseem siv nws tej qub txeej qub teg.

Nws tau tham hais tias: "Ntsia pem toj ti pem teb, loojmem nyob txoj kev lebthib 13 (HWY). Ntsia pem teb ti pem toj, loojmem nyob Lav52".

Thaum 75, vp khiav tawm LoojCeeb, Hmoob CHAOS, muaj cov Hmoob tuaj thov nws pab, nws thiaj tau mus tiag. Tabsis, Hmoob cov coob tsis mloog nws hais ces nws twb rov nws los lawm. Hnub uas Hmoob raug tua ntawd, nws tseem muaj qhua ua ib pluag noj nyob KM52, sawvdaws lam liam nws xwb.

Thaum raug mus Samana pem ViengXay ces lawv muaj 5 tug Hmoob raug kawm tib lub camp. Lawv tuav tswv8 khiav, sij hawm ntawd Lyteck raug tsa ua tus ua mov (cook), not a bad position, ib hnub nws qee mentsis txhuv los zais tom hauv paus ntoo. Txog hnub lawv sawvkev khiav ces, muaj ib tug ntawm lawv pab ntawd, twb xub mus qhia aibnoob lawm. Lawv khiav mus tsis deb ces raug txhom rov los.

Raws li cov Nplog raug txim tham ces, luag coj lawv los txiav txim pejxeem (Xam paxasxoos), Lyteck paub tias yog luag coj mus kaw ces yuav txom nyem heev, nws thiaj hais tias: "Kuv xum tuag, txawm nej coj kuv mus kawv los, yog kuv dim hnub twg, kuv yeej yuav rov khiav dua". Li no lawv thiaj coj nws mus tua lawm. Hos dua li cov ces lawv coj mus kaw-aw tuag tag lawm thiab. Hais txog tus Hmoob uas lov lawv dua ces thaum kawg aibnoob tsuas tias nws mus cuab ntse nram dej es xob tua tuag lawm no xwb.

Kuv tsuas piav txog kuv tij laug Lyteck xwb, yuav tsis kis mus txog cov kwvtij Hmoob ua nrog nws raug txim ua ke cov npe.


Tham li no xwb tso, muaj lo twg khuam siab mam rov nug dua.



TseemYeej.
d***@gmail.com
2012-10-05 17:34:03 UTC
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Nyob Zoo Tij laug Tseem Yeej,

Ua koj tsaug ntau nawj,

Kuv xav hnov tej zaj dab neeg zoo li no ntag, yam daim iav yuav tau muab tsom ob sab tuaj kom ntxwaws thiaj paub meej, hnov luag ob cag pej kum hais xwb yuav tsis tseeb npaum tus pom kiag. Ua koj tsaug muab piav rau peb mloog.

Ntawm nej tsev neeg tab txawm leej twg yuav hais li cas los kuv yeej pom kiag ntawm qhov muag tias nej yeej ua tau ntau yam zoo pab thiab pub rau peb tsev neeg Hmoob lawm, tsi hais cov nyob tim Laos los yog tim no. Piv txwv cov tim ub thaum kuv tseem yog me nyuam yau tau txais kev kawm los ntawm koj cov kwv, lawv yog xib fwb qhia ntawv rau peb nyob Laos: Xws li Tij laug Lis Yeeb, Tij laug Lis Sawm, Tij laug Lis Foom, Tij laug Lis Yias, Tij laug Lis Tswb, Tij laug Lis Tuam, Tij laug Lis Nroo Ntws. Cov nov poob rau yav tom qab, tab si tseem yog ib co sib fwb coj peb cov me nyuam Hmoob nce ib qib mus rau txoj kev kawm ntaub kawm ntawv nyob rau sab tiv es neeg Los Tsuas thiaj saib tau peb cov me nyuam Hmoob. Hos nyob li nej cov tuaj teb chaws no los yeej muaj kev txawj ntse thiab muaj lag luam loj pub rau peb Hmoob, kuv tsis txheeb ze nej tsev neeg los thov qhua nej nawj.

Sib ntsib dua.


David
Xavzoo
2012-10-05 14:48:17 UTC
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Nyob zoo Born & XavZoo,
Kuv ho pom txawv zog qhov neb hais nawb. Kuv mas, kuv ho tuaj hauv SCH no, yog tuaj sim kub kom paub tias leej twg yog leej twg xwb. Kuv yeej paub kuv lub hom phiaj zoo-oo. Born hais tias "tej siab miv miv thiab very greedy", not my case. Kuv xav paub neeg lub siab thaum foo ntsej muag lawm seb ho zoo li cas. Xav paub seb tus zoo phooj ywg los tus txheeb tus ze xav li cas rau yus lawm. Cov tuaj cem-m kuv hauv no, puav leej yog cov txheeb thiab zoo phooj ywg xwb.
Hais txog qhov XavZoo tsis cia siab rau kuv lawm mas, it's o.k, kuv yeej yuav tsis koom tej hauj lwm ciaj HAIV no li. Tsis yog nws ib leeg xwb cia siab rau kuv, coob leej ntau tus yeej tuaj-j yaum kuv kawg, niaj hnub nim no, 2 weeks ago, tseem muaj tus tuaj txog ntua hauv tsev thiab. Leej twg tuaj los kuv yeej hais kuv lo qub, vim kuv paub tias tej hauj lwm no yuav mus tsis txog twg.
Txawm ua mus los nkim sij hawm xwb, kuv cov zoo phooj ywg twb piam sij tag lawm ne. Tos phooj ywg Hawj Dee tau ncaim lawm los vim nws pom lub hom phiaj tsis meej. Phooj ywg Thoob Thoj XaivKaub, Cawv Thoj XaivKaub nkawd los yeej mus tsis txog twg, Phooj ywg Muas Soob los kuj nyob xob pus cia thiab xwb. Some of them have died quietly. Cov no peb yeej kawm ntawv ua ke, nyob ua ke, pw ua ke ntag.
Txuag zam-m tshiab, txuag siav-v nte os kwvtij awd!
First week of the month, kuv muaj ntsis busy thiab ces tham li no tso.
Sib ntsib dua,
TseemYeej.
TseemYeej,

Cas yuav hais li ne...Hais tias koj yeej yuav tsis koom tej haujlwm
ciaj HAIV no li. Ua tiag xav kom zoo mentsis ma, txawm tsis koom kiag
los twb yuav tau hais tej lus txhawb zog rau peb cov uas tseem ciasiab
rau nej cov ua tij es tseem npau npau Hmoob rau Hmoob lub neej.

Tejzaum nej cov ua tij yeej tau poob nthab dua lawm los txhob maj hais
tej lus ti ti qia es tsis cuab zog li. Kev tu siab rau Hmoob nej yeej
muaj txaus nkaus, peb los yeej paub txog tabsis peb tseem yuav nyob ib
ntus ntxiv, qhov zoo rau Hmoob tsim nyog sawvdaws tseem yuav tau sib
pab sib qhia kom txawj saib kev taug mentsis, kom paub tsis ntsees lub
hom phiaj mus.

Kev ua tej haujlwm HAIV yeej phomsij, muaj yeej thiab muaj swb, los
vim peb yeej tsis tau dim ntawm txoj kev raug luag tsimtxom sawvdaws
txhob maj so. Peb lub neej HAIV yuav mus taus los twb yuav yog nej cov
xub ua neej xws luag yuav tau pab txhawb, tsis tau tawm nyiaj txiag
los lolus hais xwb twb zoo peb siab lawm nawb.

Txhob nyhav siab nawb TseemYeej, tus xav tsis zoo rau koj tsuas yog
Cwjmem xwb, peb ib txhia twb xav pab cheem neb kom peb tau kev
phoojywg, neb txawm txaus siab/appreciated thiab tsis txaus los peb
cov hais peb feem tug lawm ces peb zoo siab nawb.

X Z
y***@charter.net
2012-10-05 18:52:50 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
Lyteck muaj lub zeem muag kom Hmoob nqes pem roob los nyob tiaj nrag es thiaj muaj kev vam meej. Nws thiaj los tsim lub zos 52 ua ib qho pilot project. Nej yuav pom nws tab tom pub nws cov nyuj nyob 52 hauv phau National Geographic 1974. Hais txog secret war nyob Laos, nws hais tias "We know what fighting means --that the Hmong are the ones to die". Thiab nws tseem hais tias "We must be proud of being Hmong..."
y***@charter.net
2012-10-05 18:54:07 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
David,
koj puas yog hais Lis Tswb thiab Lee Yia uas yog Ly Tou Bouapao ob tug kwv? Cas koj ho paub nkawv? Best...
d***@gmail.com
2012-10-05 19:24:16 UTC
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On Monday, September 17, 2012 10:18:00 PM UTC-5, Xavzoo wrote: > Sawvdaws, > > > > Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm > > qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg > > thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li? > > > > Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim > > yuav siv tau dua? > > > > Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab > > Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv? > > > > X Z David, koj puas yog hais Lis Tswb thiab Lee Yia uas yog Ly Tou Bouapao ob tug kwv? Cas koj ho paub nkawv? Best...
Yeh, yog los mas,

Thaum kuv txiv peb khiav nce roob phuv bliab mus noj pob caus ntoo tag ces los thawj tsoom fwv nplog liab pem Moos Cab ces Lis Yias thiab Lis Tswb nkawv yog peb cov xwb fwb ntag, tab sis hmoov tsis muaj Lis Yias raug Motor sib tsoo nyob Phonhong ces yawg tag sim neej lawm. Hnov tias tom qab no Lis Tswb los kuj tag sim neej lawm thiab no xyov puas muaj tseeb. Tom qab kuv txiv peb tsiv los nyob 52km ces Lis Yeeb, Lis Swm thiab Lis Foom lawv yog peb cov xib fwb.

Ntev heev los no lawm xav paub cov tij laug no nyob li cas lawm nes?

Txawj Vam Yaj yog tus thawj sib fwb nyob Moos Cab ua kam nrog Lis Tswb, tab si hnov tias nws tuaj USA no rov qab mus ces mloj twj ywm lawm yam nrhiav tsis tau lub cev, muaj tus puav kuj hais tias tsoom fwv Los Tsuas muab coj mus txhub qhov ntuj lawm no, ua li leej twg hos paub zoo txog As-Cas Txawj Vam Yaj keeb kawm zoo no hais rau peb mloog seb!


Ua tsaug
y***@charter.net
2012-10-05 19:36:48 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
X Z
David,
kuv paub Lis Yias, Lis Tswb, Txawj Vam Yaj (Lor Yang) zoo. Hmoob hais tias muab lawv hlawv ua hluav kuv tseem paub. Tu siab lawv peb leeg tuag tas lawm. Tuag li cas los kuv paub tib si. Tsuas yog tsis zoo tham kom details hauv lub public forum no xwb. Yog koj twb kawm ntawv ntawm lawv ces koj paub lawv zoo lawm. Txawj Vam yuav Tswb thiab Yias nkawv muam.
toulia vang
2012-10-05 23:25:12 UTC
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Sawvdaws,
Peb sawvdaws xav licas txog ntawm qhov Hmoob tawg tshawj, txog ntawm
qhov Hmoob qhia tus yeebncuab tuaj rhuav tshem peb ntau tiam neeg
thiab txog ntawm qhov peb sib koom siab tsis tau li?
Ntawm tswvyim, xav tias ib leeg yuav muaj ib zaj, leej twg zaj tswvyim
yuav siv tau dua?
Ziag no puas tau txog qhov peb sawvdaws los pab cheem TseemYeej thiab
Cwjmem (unkown) nkawv?
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David,
kuv paub Lis Yias, Lis Tswb, Txawj Vam Yaj (Lor Yang) zoo. Hmoob hais tias muab lawv hlawv ua hluav kuv tseem paub. Tu siab lawv peb leeg tuag tas lawm. Tuag li cas los kuv paub tib si.  Tsuas yog tsis zoo tham kom details hauv lub public forum no xwb. Yog koj twb kawm ntawv ntawm lawv ces koj paub lawv zoo lawm. Txawj Vam yuav Tswb thiab Yias nkawv muam.- Hide quoted text -
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Did Lee Tou file any grievance / complaint to the Human Right Watch?
Or was he so afraid to be stripped of the position? What a hypocrite
the Lao Government was and is?

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